Crimes are no longer a disqualification for Republican candidates

[Cardinal]

Yesterday's incident, in which New York Attorney General and Democrat Eric Schneiderman was found to have committed multiple abuses against women and was subsequently fired from a canon out of office in just three hours, made me remember this article.

"Grimm has uncovered a new reality in the constantly changing world of Republican politics: Criminal convictions, once seen as career-enders, are no longer disqualifying. In the era of President Trump, even time spent in prison can be turned into a positive talking point, demonstrating a candidate’s battle scars in a broader fight against what he perceives as liberal corruption.

In a startling shift from “law-and-order Republicans,” Trump has attacked some branches of law enforcement, especially those pursuing white-collar malfeasance, as his allies and former campaign officials are ensnared in various investigations.

Following his lead, Republican Senate candidates with criminal convictions in West Virginia and Arizona have cast themselves as victims of the Obama administration’s legal overreach. Another former Trump adviser who pleaded guilty to a felony has also become an in-demand surrogate, as Republicans jump at the chance to show their opposition to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

“Here’s a general rule of thumb: Lawmakers should not be lawbreakers,” said Susan Del Percio, a New York GOP consultant who advised Grimm in 2010 but opposes his candidacy. 'I guess it’s a different political norm we are facing today.'"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.08a9c23ce5fc

The case could be made that Trump, with multiple allegations of sexual assault against him as well as a university scam in which he bilked regular Americans out of nearly a quarter billion dollars, could be seen at first to be an outlier. However, a trend began to take shape when Montana voters happily embraced Greg Gianforte after he assaulted a liberal reporter and elected him into the House of Representatives the next day. This trend has only continued, notably with Republican support for Judge Arpaio; and Roy Moore, credibly accused of sexual relations with minors when he was a district attorney in Alabama.

So I guess the most obvious question I have for Republicans is...Hey, what's up? What's with you and your embrace of criminals lately? Seriously, let's talk about this.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

I've been saying this for years. The Dems HAVE to stop trying to take the high road, they got to start getting just as down and dirty as the GOP. The Republicans have Trump, and Hannity and Ingram, and Limbaugh spewing hate and defending Republican politicians who are law breakers every single day.

The Dems are still playing by the old rules and pretending there's such a thing as self-responsibility in politics nowadays. Trump, Moore, Blankenship... The GOP law breakers run for office, The Dems just resign. The dirtier the Republican politicians are the more the GOP base likes them. You can't get any dirtier and un-Christian than Donald Trump, yet the Religious Right loves him. That says flat out these people will never vote Dem, so why are the Dems trying to play nice and take the high road.? **** that.

 

[Chillfolks]

Republicans catching up to what the Democrats did back in the 60's. Not much to talk about. Both parties look the other way if the candidate in question had a chance at gaining power.
But by all means ignore that and make it seem like it's just one party being hypocrites

 

[FreeWits]

I seem to remember when Al Franken sexually assaulted women, with evidence in photos, and still even the Feminists within the Democratic Party supported him. Some Democrats pleaded with him to stay in Congress. Both sides have their issues, and with hundreds of leaders in Congress, these guys of things will always pop up.

 

[cuban smokes]

Yesterday's incident, in which New York Attorney General and Democrat Eric Schneiderman was found to have committed multiple abuses against women and was subsequently fired from a canon out of office in just three hours, made me remember this article.

"Grimm has uncovered a new reality in the constantly changing world of Republican politics: Criminal convictions, once seen as career-enders, are no longer disqualifying. In the era of President Trump, even time spent in prison can be turned into a positive talking point, demonstrating a candidate’s battle scars in a broader fight against what he perceives as liberal corruption.

In a startling shift from “law-and-order Republicans,” Trump has attacked some branches of law enforcement, especially those pursuing white-collar malfeasance, as his allies and former campaign officials are ensnared in various investigations.

Following his lead, Republican Senate candidates with criminal convictions in West Virginia and Arizona have cast themselves as victims of the Obama administration’s legal overreach. Another former Trump adviser who pleaded guilty to a felony has also become an in-demand surrogate, as Republicans jump at the chance to show their opposition to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

“Here’s a general rule of thumb: Lawmakers should not be lawbreakers,” said Susan Del Percio, a New York GOP consultant who advised Grimm in 2010 but opposes his candidacy. 'I guess it’s a different political norm we are facing today.'"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.08a9c23ce5fc

The case could be made that Trump, with multiple allegations of sexual assault against him as well as a university scam in which he bilked regular Americans out of nearly a quarter billion dollars, could be seen at first to be an outlier. However, a trend began to take shape when Montana voters happily embraced Greg Gianforte after he assaulted a liberal reporter and elected him into the House of Representatives the next day. This trend has only continued, notably with Republican support for Judge Arpaio; and Roy Moore, credibly accused of sexual relations with minors when he was a district attorney in Alabama.

So I guess the most obvious question I have for Republicans is...Hey, what's up? What's with you and your embrace of criminals lately? Seriously, let's talk about this.

but wasn't it Nixon that stated, "I am not a crook?" ................ calling the GOP ............ calling Donald Trump .................. :lol:

 

[Risky Thicket]

I seem to remember when Al Franken sexually assaulted women, with evidence in photos, and still even the Feminists within the Democratic Party supported him. Some Democrats pleaded with him to stay in Congress. Both sides have their issues, and with hundreds of leaders in Congress, these guys of things will always pop up.

Franken was alleged to have sexually assaulted women. There were no photos of him touching any woman inappropriately.

 

[Cardinal]

I seem to remember when Al Franken sexually assaulted women, with evidence in photos, and still even the Feminists within the Democratic Party supported him. Some Democrats pleaded with him to stay in Congress. Both sides have their issues, and with hundreds of leaders in Congress, these guys of things will always pop up.

Democrat voters, you'll note, were not aware of Franken's past when they voted for him. And after they learned, Franken was gone. Yes, it took a couple weeks of hand wringing, but they came to the inescapable conclusion that they did not want a sex predator representing them.

This is glaringly contrasted with Republican voters who had all the information on their candidates going into the election, and voted for them anyway.

That is what this thread is about: why are Republican voters making the informed decision to vote for criminals?

 

[poweRob]

Republicans catching up to what the Democrats did back in the 60's. Not much to talk about. Both parties look the other way if the candidate in question had a chance at gaining power.
But by all means ignore that and make it seem like it's just one party being hypocrites

It swings. But at this current time...

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Republicans catching up to what the Democrats did back in the 60's. Not much to talk about. Both parties look the other way if the candidate in question had a chance at gaining power.
But by all means ignore that and make it seem like it's just one party being hypocrites

John Edwards called for you. Declined to leave any message.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

I seem to remember when Al Franken sexually assaulted women, with evidence in photos, and still even the Feminists within the Democratic Party supported him. Some Democrats pleaded with him to stay in Congress. Both sides have their issues, and with hundreds of leaders in Congress, these guys of things will always pop up.

You recall incorrectly. What he did wasn't sexual assault, and feminists in the Dem party were calling for his ouster.

 

[poweRob]

Democrat voters, you'll note, were not aware of Franken's past when they voted for him. And after they learned, Franken was gone. Yes, it took a couple weeks of hand wringing, but they came to the inescapable conclusion that they did not want a sex predator to represent them.

This is glaringly contrasted with Republican voters who had all the information on their candidates going into the election, and voted for them anyway.

That is what this thread is about: why are Republican voters making the informed decision to vote for criminals?

Don Blankenship... Just got out of jail. Will win his primary tonight most likely to run for WV's Senate seat against Joe Manchin. His neglect killed 29 coal miners. It's badge of honor apparently in the GOP.

 

[poweRob]

I seem to remember when Al Franken sexually assaulted women, with evidence in photos, and still even the Feminists within the Democratic Party supported him. Some Democrats pleaded with him to stay in Congress. Both sides have their issues, and with hundreds of leaders in Congress, these guys of things will always pop up.

Wow .... you don't seem to be able to "remember" very well at all.

 

[Anagram]

I've been saying this for years. The Dems HAVE to stop trying to take the high road, they got to start getting just as down and dirty as the GOP. The Republicans have Trump, and Hannity and Ingram, and Limbaugh spewing hate and defending Republican politicians who are law breakers every single day.

The Dems are still playing by the old rules and pretending there's such a thing as self-responsibility in politics nowadays. Trump, Moore, Blankenship... The GOP law breakers run for office, The Dems just resign. The dirtier the Republican politicians are the more the GOP base likes them. You can't get any dirtier and un-Christian than Donald Trump, yet the Religious Right loves him. That says flat out these people will never vote Dem, so why are the Dems trying to play nice and take the high road.? **** that.

Not that I really think Dems take the high road, but even if they did, I hate this argument. It seems to me this leads to each party doing progressively worse and worse things and justifying it because "look at how horrible that other party is." And what happens?

We're all worse off.

 

[Bullseye]

I've been saying this for years. The Dems HAVE to stop trying to take the high road, they got to start getting just as down and dirty as the GOP. The Republicans have Trump, and Hannity and Ingram, and Limbaugh spewing hate and defending Republican politicians who are law breakers every single day.

The Dems are still playing by the old rules and pretending there's such a thing as self-responsibility in politics nowadays. Trump, Moore, Blankenship... The GOP law breakers run for office, The Dems just resign. The dirtier the Republican politicians are the more the GOP base likes them. You can't get any dirtier and un-Christian than Donald Trump, yet the Religious Right loves him. That says flat out these people will never vote Dem, so why are the Dems trying to play nice and take the high road.? **** that.

So you respond to a thread highlighting the misbehavior of a DEMOCRATIC AG by saying it the GOP that are the misbehaviors and the Dems take the high, moral road? Huh?

 

[Gaius46]

Yesterday's incident, in which New York Attorney General and Democrat Eric Schneiderman was found to have committed multiple abuses against women and was subsequently fired from a canon out of office in just three hours, made me remember this article.

"Grimm has uncovered a new reality in the constantly changing world of Republican politics: Criminal convictions, once seen as career-enders, are no longer disqualifying. In the era of President Trump, even time spent in prison can be turned into a positive talking point, demonstrating a candidate’s battle scars in a broader fight against what he perceives as liberal corruption.

In a startling shift from “law-and-order Republicans,” Trump has attacked some branches of law enforcement, especially those pursuing white-collar malfeasance, as his allies and former campaign officials are ensnared in various investigations.

Following his lead, Republican Senate candidates with criminal convictions in West Virginia and Arizona have cast themselves as victims of the Obama administration’s legal overreach. Another former Trump adviser who pleaded guilty to a felony has also become an in-demand surrogate, as Republicans jump at the chance to show their opposition to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

“Here’s a general rule of thumb: Lawmakers should not be lawbreakers,” said Susan Del Percio, a New York GOP consultant who advised Grimm in 2010 but opposes his candidacy. 'I guess it’s a different political norm we are facing today.'"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.08a9c23ce5fc

The case could be made that Trump, with multiple allegations of sexual assault against him as well as a university scam in which he bilked regular Americans out of nearly a quarter billion dollars, could be seen at first to be an outlier. However, a trend began to take shape when Montana voters happily embraced Greg Gianforte after he assaulted a liberal reporter and elected him into the House of Representatives the next day. This trend has only continued, notably with Republican support for Judge Arpaio; and Roy Moore, credibly accused of sexual relations with minors when he was a district attorney in Alabama.

So I guess the most obvious question I have for Republicans is...Hey, what's up? What's with you and your embrace of criminals lately? Seriously, let's talk about this.

Who found him to have committed them? A magazine? If that's all it takes this country is screwed.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Don Blankenship... Just got out of jail. Will win his primary tonight most likely to run for WV's Senate seat against Joe Manchin. His neglect killed 29 coal miners. It's badge of honor apparently in the GOP.

How will he like it when people start remembering the lives lost under his leadership of a coal mine.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Not that I really think Dems take the high road, but even if they did, I hate this argument. It seems to me this leads to each party doing progressively worse and worse things and justifying it because "look at how horrible that other party is." And what happens?

We're all worse off.

There used to be political standards that both parties were supposed to be held to.

 

[poweRob]

How will he like it when people start remembering the lives lost under his leadership of a coal mine.

He blamed Obama and other government officials for his neglect. It will work with the voting GOP populace there.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

He blamed Obama and other government officials for his neglect. It will work with the voting GOP populace there.

“For a Captain with a sense of honor, his fate should not be separated from that of his ship.”

It was his mine.

His workers.

The mine faliure was his responsibility, and he failed to uphold it.

If he dodges responsibility for what happened to the miners then he has no right to be the senator of West Virginia.

 

[Anagram]

There used to be political standards that both parties were supposed to be held to.

And it sucks that they aren't. I don't think it's a one party problem, but even if it were, I can't accept that the correct response is to no longer hold yourself to them. If it is, then I guess I don't really see the point of elections at all if the best case scenario is we get people who know they are doing bad things, accept that they're doing bad things, but justify it because in their mind they're slightly better than the opposition.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

And it sucks that they aren't. I don't think it's a one party problem, but even if it were, I can't accept that the correct response is to no longer hold yourself to them. If it is, then I guess I don't really see the point of elections at all if the best case scenario is we get people who know they are doing bad things, accept that they're doing bad things, but justify it because in their mind they're slightly better than the opposition.

The faliure is in the people who choose not to hold their elected officials to high standards

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Yesterday's incident, in which New York Attorney General and Democrat Eric Schneiderman was found to have committed multiple abuses against women and was subsequently fired from a canon out of office in just three hours, made me remember this article.

"Grimm has uncovered a new reality in the constantly changing world of Republican politics: Criminal convictions, once seen as career-enders, are no longer disqualifying. In the era of President Trump, even time spent in prison can be turned into a positive talking point, demonstrating a candidate’s battle scars in a broader fight against what he perceives as liberal corruption.

In a startling shift from “law-and-order Republicans,” Trump has attacked some branches of law enforcement, especially those pursuing white-collar malfeasance, as his allies and former campaign officials are ensnared in various investigations.

Following his lead, Republican Senate candidates with criminal convictions in West Virginia and Arizona have cast themselves as victims of the Obama administration’s legal overreach. Another former Trump adviser who pleaded guilty to a felony has also become an in-demand surrogate, as Republicans jump at the chance to show their opposition to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

“Here’s a general rule of thumb: Lawmakers should not be lawbreakers,” said Susan Del Percio, a New York GOP consultant who advised Grimm in 2010 but opposes his candidacy. 'I guess it’s a different political norm we are facing today.'"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.08a9c23ce5fc

The case could be made that Trump, with multiple allegations of sexual assault against him as well as a university scam in which he bilked regular Americans out of nearly a quarter billion dollars, could be seen at first to be an outlier. However, a trend began to take shape when Montana voters happily embraced Greg Gianforte after he assaulted a liberal reporter and elected him into the House of Representatives the next day. This trend has only continued, notably with Republican support for Judge Arpaio; and Roy Moore, credibly accused of sexual relations with minors when he was a district attorney in Alabama.

So I guess the most obvious question I have for Republicans is...Hey, what's up? What's with you and your embrace of criminals lately? Seriously, let's talk about this.

People need to vote, plain and simple. Republicans pander the the hateful, ignorant people, who don't care about their hypocrisy, questionable ethics, crimes, etc. As long as they promise to get rid of those illegal, hate on anything democrat, go after abortion, pro guns, etc they will vote for these people. THe more hate and fear they can whip up, the more motivated this base is. And not enough other people voting allows a minority of people to have the power. Then you add in those that are just greedy and just wants more and more tax breaks and since they have theirs, the hell with others, you can win elections. Add in gerrymandering, voter suppression, and smearing any democrat, you suppress or unmotivate the people that would likely vote against these tactics, and this is what you get.

So unless the midterms is a huge turnout, we are going to continue to get this, since these people can be as scummy as they want to be and still win, and be endeared to many deplorables in their base

 

[Cardinal]

Not that I really think Dems take the high road, but even if they did, I hate this argument. It seems to me this leads to each party doing progressively worse and worse things and justifying it because "look at how horrible that other party is." And what happens?

We're all worse off.

I completely agree with this.

 

[cuban smokes]

Franken was alleged to have sexually assaulted women. There were no photos of him touching any woman inappropriately.

there were no NDAs .......... there were no denials of NDAs .............. there were no 'fixers' creating LLCs to complete NDAs .............. there was no one lying about NDA payments .............. there was no ........................ well, we get it ............

 

[Rexedgar]

I seem to remember when Al Franken sexually assaulted women, with evidence in photos, and still even the Feminists within the Democratic Party supported him. Some Democrats pleaded with him to stay in Congress. Both sides have their issues, and with hundreds of leaders in Congress, these guys of things will always pop up.

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