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Court Refuses to Reinstate Travel Ban, Dealing Trump Another Legal Loss

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/...eakingNews&contentID=64895393&pgtype=Homepage

WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court on Thursday refused to reinstate President Trump’s targeted travel ban, delivering the latest and most stinging judicial rebuke to his effort to make good on a campaign promise and tighten the standards for entry into the United States.

The ruling was the first from an appeals court on the travel ban, and it was focused on the narrow question of whether it should be blocked while courts consider its lawfulness. The decision is likely to be quickly appealed to the United States Supreme Court.

That court remains short-handed and could deadlock. A 4-to-4 tie in the Supreme Court would leave the appeals court’s ruling in place.
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Clearly off to District Court or SCOTUS
Thoughts?
 
A victory of honor over xenophobia.
 
I predicted this would happen. Liberal judges will abuse their power to enforce politics over the law. With the SCOTUS as it is it would be a 4 4 ruling leaving the 9th ruling in place.
 
DA60 said:
A victory of honor over xenophobia.
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The 9th District Court always overturns the will of the people, that's been their chief objective for decades. They serve the ACLU and DNC only.
 
digsbe said:
I predicted this would happen. Liberal judges will abuse their power to enforce politics over the law. With the SCOTUS as it is it would be a 4 4 ruling leaving the 9th ruling in place.
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One of the three judges was put on the bench by a republican president.
 
truthatallcost said:
The 9th District Court always overturns the will of the people, that's been their chief objective for decades. They serve the ACLU and DNC only.
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If Bannon/Miller who wrote and rolled out this EO had any competence, the executive branch would have won.

Will and Dershowitz make a good case for the EO, trump and his people not so much .
 
So why not dump every inbound refugee and immigrant on the West coast. They want them? They can have them all and all their problems.
 
digsbe said:
I predicted this would happen. Liberal judges will abuse their power to enforce politics over the law. With the SCOTUS as it is it would be a 4 4 ruling leaving the 9th ruling in place.
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America could have had a 9th justice without the nuclear option of McConnell. The choice of Garland upset the liberal wing of the DEMs. America wins today over the alt-right tyranny of trump/Bannon .
 
digsbe said:
I predicted this would happen. Liberal judges will abuse their power to enforce politics over the law. With the SCOTUS as it is it would be a 4 4 ruling leaving the 9th ruling in place.
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The judge who ordered the injunction on the EO is conservative, appointed by Bush.
 
truthatallcost said:
The 9th District Court always overturns the will of the people, that's been their chief objective for decades. They serve the ACLU and DNC only.
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Rhetorically shooting the messenger is becoming an hourly event from the alt-right .
 
Uh oh! The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rules 3-0 against Team Trump! Lock your doors! Talk to each other! Remain ever vigilant in these dark and dangerous times. It may take Team Trump a bit longer than expected to protect us from unwanted, dangerous foreign intruders! You may want to man your guns.

Or alternatively, grin again at our President Billionaire Buffoon and his Miscreant Minions... and go about living safe and sound in the real world.
 
eohrnberger said:
So why not dump every inbound refugee and immigrant on the West coast. They want them? They can have them all and all their problems.
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Sure, because that's anything like what was happening before Trump's completely unthought-out, venal ban.

Seriously, I'll bet not a single Trump supporter is aware that there was a vetting process before Trump came along.
 
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NIMBY said:
If Bannon/Miller who wrote and rolled out this EO had any competence, the executive branch would have won.

Will and Dershowitz make a good case for the EO, trump and his people not so much .
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Given the content of the executive order, the 9th circuit would have upheld the restraining order regardless of anything else. Anyone who follows the 9th's decisions, knows that it's just a collective of 29 activist judges, wildly out of touch with mainstream Americans, making a salary that puts them in the 1% and thus able to avoid the ramifications of their decisions.
 
digsbe said:
I predicted this would happen. Liberal judges will abuse their power to enforce politics over the law. With the SCOTUS as it is it would be a 4 4 ruling leaving the 9th ruling in place.
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As opposed to conservative judges that abuse power to further an agenda?
 
JANFU said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/...eakingNews&contentID=64895393&pgtype=Homepage


Clearly off to District Court or SCOTUS
Thoughts?
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I read the ruling and
The court refused to reinstate the ban and hold TRO on the basis that states have shown that it would aversely affect residents in the area of employment, travel and that it would harm the implementation of their universities and higher learning.
However it never says how it would harm.
The ruling isn't as weak as the initial ruling which was purely speculative with no legal precedent, but this one is pretty weak too.
So now they will end up presenting briefs and having hearings and a ruling later on and drag it out awhile.
 
digsbe said:
I predicted this would happen. Liberal judges will abuse their power to enforce politics over the law. With the SCOTUS as it is it would be a 4 4 ruling leaving the 9th ruling in place.
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Golly. How did the judges abuse their power?

Please go into detail.
 
truthatallcost said:
Given the content of the executive order, the 9th circuit would have upheld the restraining order regardless of anything else. Anyone who follows the 9th's decisions, knows that it's just a collective of 29 activist judges, wildly out of touch with mainstream Americans, making a salary that puts them in the 1% and thus able to avoid the ramifications of their decisions.
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You could have written a more competent EO than that done by Bannon/Miller.

trump and America are being ill-served by trump's kabal of alt-rightists .
 
randel said:
trump needs to put his phone down, stay off of twitter, and actually learn about the constitution and realize he is a president, and not a king, and that just because he wishes it, doesnt make it legal.
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trump's too busy picking fights on an hourly basis, such as with Sen. McCain over Russia, Putin, and the botched Yemeni raid .
 
Cardinal said:
Sure, because that's anything like was happening before Trump's completely unthought-out, venal ban.

Seriously, I'll bet not a single Trump supporter is aware that there was a vetting process before Trump came along.
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No, there was. That's not the problem.

The problem is that in congressional testimony, Obama's security department leaders were saying that it wasn't possible to sufficiently vet the refugees / migrants from certain countries.

FBI Director Admits US Can’t Vet All Syrian Refugees For Terror Ties

[URL="http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/264268-ex-dhs-head-we-cant-vet-syrian-refugees"]Ex-DHS head: We can’t vet Syrian refugees

Nation’s Top Security Officials’ Concerns on Refugee Vetting - homeland.house.gov

Another DHS Official Confirms: No Way to Vet Syrian Refugees
 
truthatallcost said:
Trampling the will of the people has been the left's objective for 60 years.
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Exactly which event in the last 60 years you mention did the left start to trample the will of the people ?
 
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