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CONSERVATIVE areas are driving California’s troubles

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Righties who rant about California are not telling the whole story. This article breaks it down nicely.

www.dailykos.com

Murder, shootings, drugs, shoplifting – CONSERVATIVE areas are driving California’s troubles

Mike Males Rampaging mobs looting stores, streets littered with drug-stuffed bodies, cars smashed, failed gun laws… all blamed on “Soros”-installed district attorneys, left-wing legislators, softheaded judges, and “progressive” local policies. It’s so...
www.dailykos.com

(Yes it's DailyKos, but the secondary sources here are not.)
 
Phys251 said:
Righties who rant about California are not telling the whole story. This article breaks it down nicely.

www.dailykos.com

Murder, shootings, drugs, shoplifting – CONSERVATIVE areas are driving California’s troubles

Mike Males Rampaging mobs looting stores, streets littered with drug-stuffed bodies, cars smashed, failed gun laws… all blamed on “Soros”-installed district attorneys, left-wing legislators, softheaded judges, and “progressive” local policies. It’s so...
www.dailykos.com

(Yes it's DailyKos, but the secondary sources here are not.)
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So what this article is really saying is that counties in the Central Valley with large numbers of illegal aliens and Latin street gangs have more murders.
 
Phys251 said:
Which statistics did the article get factually wrong, Napoleon?
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It doesn’t bring up how crime is concentrated in democrat favored constituencies. If you look at police blotters in Kern County the shootings are largely being done by black and Latin street gangs, kind of like everywhere else
 
Napoleon said:
So rather than address the legion issues in Democrat cities, the Daily Kos says BUT GUNS in Republican counties.
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Fascist fox and their inbred media won’t carry the truth.
 
Phys251 said:
Which statistics did the article get factually wrong, Napoleon?
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Let’s start with the fact that statistics about Republican counties is not an excuse for or even a good deflection from the Democrat cities being open sewers, drug dens, and bastions of crime. You can’t hide the catastrophic impact of implementing progressive policies in the cities behind gun stats in the counties.

Second, they aren’t even measuring the same thing in their comparison, i.e. they don’t account for the fact that progressive DAs in the cities openly admit they won’t and don’t prosecute some crimes and therefore artificially deflate their crime stats.
 
Napoleon said:
Let’s start with the fact that statistics about Republican counties is not an excuse for or even a good deflection from the Democrat cities being open sewers, drug dens, and bastions of crime. You can’t hide the catastrophic impact of implementing progressive policies in the cities behind gun stats in the counties.

Second, they aren’t even measuring the same thing in their comparison, i.e. they don’t account for the fact that progressive DAs in the cities openly admit they won’t and don’t prosecute some crimes and therefore artificially deflate their crime stats.
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Not a refutation. Not even close. Try again.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
So what this article is really saying is that counties in the Central Valley with large numbers of illegal aliens and Latin street gangs have more murders.
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If the article said that, it should be able for you to source it. They didn't.

Got a source for your fat one? Or is it just pulled out of the ether?
 
Phys251 said:
Righties who rant about California are not telling the whole story. This article breaks it down nicely.

www.dailykos.com

Murder, shootings, drugs, shoplifting – CONSERVATIVE areas are driving California’s troubles

Mike Males Rampaging mobs looting stores, streets littered with drug-stuffed bodies, cars smashed, failed gun laws… all blamed on “Soros”-installed district attorneys, left-wing legislators, softheaded judges, and “progressive” local policies. It’s so...
www.dailykos.com

(Yes it's DailyKos, but the secondary sources here are not.)
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Those are rates, not numbers. While I agree that rural Republican counties can be more criminal on a rate basis, they are dwarfed by the absolute numbers coming out of the Bay Area, LA Basin and Inland Empire, and the San Diego region. But thats not politics, thats size of population. Everything coming out of some of the most populous areas of the US are going to be more, crime, but also students in university, GDP, etc.

It also means that of course California will have absolute numbers of more crime than Mississippi. That doesn't mean Mississippi is less violent, it just means the entire population of Mississippi can fit in San Diego.
 
Napoleon said:
Let’s start with the fact that statistics about Republican counties is not an excuse for or even a good deflection from the Democrat cities being open sewers, drug dens, and bastions of crime. You can’t hide the catastrophic impact of implementing progressive policies in the cities behind gun stats in the counties.

Second, they aren’t even measuring the same thing in their comparison, i.e. they don’t account for the fact that progressive DAs in the cities openly admit they won’t and don’t prosecute some crimes and therefore artificially deflate their crime stats.
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There are NO Democrat cities, just Democratic ones, Rush ditto head.
 
Napoleon said:
the Democrat cities being open sewers
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Setting aside the northern area, Southern California doesn't have nearly as many sewers, being a desert and all.

It rained when I first moved there, and there's a road going up to Mt. Baldy that is straight for miles. I literally watched a river form, coming down hill... :eek:
 
mrjurrs said:
Oh I did, and that's why you are unable to pull anything from it.

That's one weak response.
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They didn’t use that language, but I looked at the counties they reference, which the first is Kern county, kern county has massive presence for drug cartels and transient populations of foreign nationals, a problem which the democrats are responsible for
 
EMNofSeattle said:
They didn’t use that language, but I looked at the counties they reference, which the first is Kern county, kern county has massive presence for drug cartels and transient populations of foreign nationals, a problem which the democrats are responsible for
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The LAT ran an investigative piece on Kern County, a Republican stronghold, a few years ago — local corruption in their equivalent of the old boys’ network. Latinos exploited by a well-connected landlord, unemployment, and drugs — and some really depressed areas in Bakersfield, including Oildale.
 
zincwarrior said:
Those are rates, not numbers. While I agree that rural Republican counties can be more criminal on a rate basis, they are dwarfed by the absolute numbers coming out of the Bay Area, LA Basin and Inland Empire, and the San Diego region. But thats not politics, thats size of population. Everything coming out of some of the most populous areas of the US are going to be more, crime, but also students in university, GDP, etc.

It also means that of course California will have absolute numbers of more crime than Mississippi. That doesn't mean Mississippi is less violent, it just means the entire population of Mississippi can fit in San Diego.
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Wouldn't it be rates, not raw numbers, that would be a better indicator of failed policy?
 
Geoist said:
Wouldn't it be rates, not raw numbers, that would be a better indicator of failed policy?
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I am in no way disagreeing. I am just noting that Cali's crime is driven by the Megacities, because it has Megacities. Its just a function of 1. concentrated numbers 2. People don't like each other.

Also, Cali's cities occasionally attacked by some form of Monster or Kaiju. bad for business!
 
EMNofSeattle said:
So what this article is really saying is that counties in the Central Valley with large numbers of illegal aliens and Latin street gangs have more murders.
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Why are there large numbers of illegals in the Central Valley? Any guesses?
 
My sister-in-law lived briefly in Del Norte County — Crescent City — on the coast not far from the Oregon border. Major employer was Pelican Bay State Prison, a super-max facility. Another Republican stronghold in an economically depressed area. While near amazing scenery and forests, there was a reason home prices were so low.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
They didn’t use that language, but I looked at the counties they reference, which the first is Kern county, kern county has massive presence for drug cartels and transient populations of foreign nationals, a problem which the democrats are responsible for
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Guess who's Congressional District that is.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
They didn’t use that language, but I looked at the counties they reference, which the first is Kern county, kern county has massive presence for drug cartels and transient populations of foreign nationals, a problem which the democrats are responsible for
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More unsourced claims. Nobody is accepting your 'expert' opinion. Prove your hyperbolic claims.
 
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