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Car rammer self defense James Alex Fields Jr

I'm not defending it, I'm just saying its plausible and not acting like a typical knee jerk liberal who lacks the capacity to consider anything but what their well worn narrative supports.


GhostlyJoe said:
Oh stop it. He clearly shows, at best, complete disregard the lives of the people he slammed into, and then goes speeding away in reverse. Defending this is just sick.
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Why was Fields in Charlottesville?
 
TobyOne said:
I'm not defending it, I'm just saying its plausible and not acting like a typical knee jerk liberal who lacks the capacity to consider anything but what their well worn narrative supports.
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We have it on video.
 
volsrock said:
Tech reporter for The Hill​ Taylor Lorenz reports that police believe the suspect didn’t intentionally mow down protesters out of malice intent.
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If the police are saying that then why did Charlottesville police chief say it was 'premeditated?'
 
In all my years of posting on political debate boards, I doubt I've seen a more embarrassing OP.


Good freakin Lord.
 
Peter King said:
That looks really bad, that looks like intentional driving at demonstrators. He had no problem backing up after he had rammed all those people, why not back up before ramming all those people.

But as ever, innocent until proven otherwise but as said, this does not look like fear but it reeks of homicidal tendencies.
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Certainly possible. But it looks like from the view of the perp's car that it is a crowd of people and most of them moved out of the way before he got to them. Not all, though. At least one woman ended up on his hood.



Can't say what was going through the driver's mind from these videos. I imagine it will come down to whether or not the driver was connected to the White Nationalist movement or if he has made some incriminating stupid remarks in the past on social media that might lend some insight into his mentality. If it is just some dude who plays trombone in the college band who has never had any issues, then it will be more believable that he panicked. :)
 
TobyOne said:
I'm not defending it, I'm just saying its plausible and not acting like a typical knee jerk liberal who lacks the capacity to consider anything but what their well worn narrative supports.
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People fleeing from danger move away from it, not towards it.
 
volsrock said:
Tech reporter for The Hill​ Taylor Lorenz reports that police believe the suspect didn’t intentionally mow down protesters out of malice intent. Lorenz reports that authorities believe that the suspect acted out of fear as protesters swarmed the vehicle, some allegedly acting violent.

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He is still guilty no matter the reason he did it. He KILLED someone for God's sake.i If he can prove his position, that would mitigate the crime. But you don't get to kill ME because YOU'RE scared.
 
TobyOne said:
I'm not defending it, I'm just saying its plausible and not acting like a typical knee jerk liberal who lacks the capacity to consider anything but what their well worn narrative supports.
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Watch the video. I don't know who he is. I don't know his reasons. But even if he were scared, it doesn't excuse blindly plowing into a crowd. Are you sure it's me who has the political blinders on here?
 
Anyone with a thinking brain KNOWS if the perp had a Muslim sounding name - Trump would have tweeted at least 4 times about it by now, denouncing as Islamic Terrorism.
 
Big difference between premeditated murder and vehicular manslaughter. I'm guessing the difference is measured in many years in prison.

MaggieD said:
He is still guilty no matter the reason he did it. He KILLED someone for God's sake.i If he can prove his position, that would mitigate the crime. But you don't get to kill ME because YOU'RE scared.
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TobyOne said:
Big difference between premeditated murder and vehicular manslaughter. I'm guessing the difference is measured in many years in prison.
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I agree. But it's still manslaughter or pre-meditated murder. That's my point.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
So he was trained to be able to keep his calm and act deliberately in violent, chaotic circumstances. Makes the whole "I panicked" excuse even more laughable.
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He didn't even serve four months.
 
MaggieD said:
He is still guilty no matter the reason he did it. He KILLED someone for God's sake.i If he can prove his position, that would mitigate the crime. But you don't get to kill ME because YOU'RE scared.
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In more than one state, actually, I literally can kill you because I'm scared.

Holds up better in court if you're black, though.
 
nota bene said:
He didn't even serve four months.
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That raises all kinds of other questions about the guy. It is certainly not enough time to pick up serious skills. He never would have even seen combat in that amount of time. But why did he only serve 4 months? He at least bade it through basic training. It will be interesting to see what kind of discharge he got. Was he a trouble maker in the Army or was the reason benign?
 
Deuce said:
In more than one state, actually, I literally can kill you because I'm scared.

Holds up better in court if you're black, though.
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Why would anyone "like' this post?
 
Geoist said:
Right? And he drives practically a whole block into a large mob of protesters... to get away from a mob of protesters (which doesn't seem to exist in the video)? Dumb defense is dumb.
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Doesn't stop Conservatives from calling it a valid defense.

This is Conservatism at its most basic - they will outright lie to defend terrorism by adherents to their belief system.

Anyone down for a drinking game? One half shot glass of low-proof stuff for every Conservative who says "but muh Antifa vandalism/punching people"?
 
Deuce said:
In more than one state, actually, I literally can kill you because I'm scared.

Holds up better in court if you're black, though.
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Tennessee is trying to LEGALIZE doing this to protesters.

Again, this is the insanity that's called Conservatism.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
That raises all kinds of other questions about the guy. It is certainly not enough time to pick up serious skills. He never would have even seen combat in that amount of time. But why did he only serve 4 months? He at least bade it through basic training. It will be interesting to see what kind of discharge he got. Was he a trouble maker in the Army or was the reason benign?
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I don't know what we'll be able to learn, but, yes, when I read this, I realized that there is a story here.
 
I frankly struggle to care.


Well, no i don't.... struggle that is. I don't care.


Anyone that showed up at that cluster **** was an idiot, left/ right or upside down, and whatever happened was entirely predictable and I have little sympathy for anyone involved.


Dumbassery hurts.
 
Goshin said:
I frankly struggle to care.


Well, no i don't.... struggle that is. I don't care.


Anyone that showed up at that cluster **** was an idiot, left/ right or upside down, and whatever happened was entirely predictable and I have little sympathy for anyone involved.


Dumbassery hurts.
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It also costs. That particular dumbass will pay for his.
 
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