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Bottom line-Barr told the truth

Bottom Line: Half Truths are still Lies.
 
KLATTU said:
Can you please tell us what is bull ?
"Barr stated that the Special Counsel's report (1) did not find conspiracy or coordination between any members of the Trump campaign and the Russians, (2) laid out evidence on both sides of the obstruction of justice issue, and (3) did not reach a determination on obstruction charges either way, adding that this lack of a decision did not constitute an exoneration (a key distinction that Barr included in his memo). All of that was correct and accurate. We know this because we have the report itself, thanks to Barr. "

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Mueller laid out a beautiful and very detailed case for obstruction, but did not pursue it himself because he knew:

1) the law is unclear about indicting a sitting president
2) the current attorney general’s office would not do its job and indict even if he recommended it. It’s corrupt.

So it seems that he took the ball and gave it to Congress. He teed it up, but knew he could not take the swing. That someone else’s job.

This is not the same thing as “no obstruction.”
 
Casper said:
Bottom Line: Half Truths are still Lies.
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Which dem senator asked Barr if Trump attempting to change investigators due to perceived conflict of interest was fair?...He asked Barr this over and over. You mean is fair still legal? Is sending Trump to prison because you don't believe in his political ideology fair, er, legal?:lamo

Produce some of the half-truths.
 
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ataraxia said:
Mueller laid out a beautiful and very detailed case for obstruction, but did not pursue it himself because he knew:

1) the law is unclear about indicting a sitting president
2) the current attorney general’s office would not do its job and indict even if he recommended it. It’s corrupt.

So it seems that he took the ball and gave it to Congress. He teed it up, but knew he could not take the swing. That someone else’s job.

This is not the same thing as “no obstruction.”
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And Barr never said any such thing.
Barr laid out evidence on both sides of the obstruction of justice issue, and (3) did not reach a determination on obstruction charges either way, adding that this lack of a decision did not constitute an exoneration (a key distinction that Barr included in his memo).
 
KLATTU said:
Yeah ....AG's appointed by the President usually are... that's the way it works. Always.
Or are you playing the liberal pretend game that Democrats would nevvvvver be like that.
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You're missing something important here.

But they don't do **** that is blatantly banana republic, like refusing to turn over records, like refusing to honor a subpoena, like sayingi that the president has the right to terminate an investigation into himself if he believes he is being falsely accused ( yeah, I can't imagine Trump ever saying he is correctly accused, can you? ).
 
code1211 said:
As an enforcer of the law, Barr is in support of the President and by definition in opposition to the Dems.
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An AG has only one obligation, the constitution and law, not opposing any party, the party has nothing to do with it.
 
KLATTU said:
And Barr never said any such thing.
Barr laid out evidence on both sides of the obstruction of justice issue, and (3) did not reach a determination on obstruction charges either way, adding that this lack of a decision did not constitute an exoneration (a key distinction that Barr included in his memo).
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Barr and Mueller are not the same person.
 
OscarLevant said:
You're missing something important here.

But they don't do **** that is blatantly banana republic, like refusing to turn over records, like refusing to honor a subpoena, like sayingi that the president has the right to terminate an investigation into himself if he believes he is being falsely accused ( yeah, I can't imagine Trump ever saying he is correctly accused, can you? ).
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All this is rhetoric. Produce some facts.
 
KLATTU said:
An in the end- what Barr said doesn't matter. We have the full report.
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Yes, and thus the only people who think anything from Barr is credible are the die-hards of Trump's base and the right wing media bubble.
 
Praxas said:
It was posted several times already. If you can't see it, stop covering your eyes then.
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No, you haven't "posted" it. Continuing to claim you did does not strengthen your case.
 
KLATTU said:
And Barr never said any such thing.
Barr laid out evidence on both sides of the obstruction of justice issue, and (3) did not reach a determination on obstruction charges either way, adding that this lack of a decision did not constitute an exoneration (a key distinction that Barr included in his memo).
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He misrepresented (no I am sorry, he lied. Why am I trying to sugarcoat this? ) what Mueller had said. Mueller told him so. And he even lied to Congress about that too. He is completely corrupt and unprofessional and has no credibility or integrity left. He needs to step down and we need someone in that position who is actually going to do the job he or she is sworn to do.
 
smallvoice said:
No, you haven't "posted" it. Continuing to claim you did does not strengthen your case.
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It was posted by others, maybe if you bothered to actually READ, you would see it to. Unless you are like Klattu and cover your eyes. Wow the right has gone seriously off the rails in total denial now.
 
Praxas said:
It was posted by others, maybe if you bothered to actually READ, you would see it to. Unless you are like Klattu and cover your eyes. Wow the right has gone seriously off the rails in total denial now.
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I've read every damned post in this thread. You have not posted it.
 
KLATTU said:
noon-responsive.
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Quite responsive, but it requires you to ACTUALLY LOOK. If you can't do that, not my problem. don't like my answer? tough ****.
 
smallvoice said:
I've read every damned post in this thread. You have not posted it.
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Obviously you haven't, because it was posted by others. you're not getting any more out of me so deal with it.
 
ataraxia said:
He misrepresented (no I am sorry, he lied. Why am I trying to sugarcoat this? ) what Mueller had said. Mueller told him so. And he even lied to Congress about that too. He is completely corrupt and unprofessional and has no credibility or integrity left. He needs to step down and we need someone in that position who is actually going to do the job he or she is sworn to do.
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Mueller never said BArr lied.
 
cabse5 said:
All this is rhetoric. Produce some facts.
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See my thread on Barr/banana republic, see my thread on AG defies Blumenthal. evidence provided.


For starters.
 
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