Biden Condemns Antifa

[OlNate]

Oh no it isn’t, Nate. Any time antifa comes up as a topic the “but white supremacists...” deflection is inevitable.

Sure...there is plenty of inevitable stupidity trotted out here all the time, by both sides. I mean, good grief, look what happens to "your side" when a woman dare alleges sexual misconduct...lol...

But a few people who stick in your mind because they pissed you off do not warrant generalization of over half your citizenry (per the last popular vote...teehee). Just like a few knuckle dragging white supremacists don't provide a means to generalize you. I think when threads start out with that kind of generalization, it totally buries the actual issue, and kicks of yet another round of "I know you are, but what am I". :shrug:

In the meantime, I've seen plenty of left leaning folk on DP denounce Antifa. Just like I've seen plenty of right leaning folk on DP denounce white supremacists.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The Army of God US Domestic Terrorism: Army of God


Army of God (United States) - Wikipedia is a pro life terrorist group who only targets liberal Pro choice clinics, doctors and advocates. The right owns that, including every Trump supporter, every Christian and the Republican Party apparatus. Are you a supporter and apologist for the Army of God too? How about these people? Phineas Priests They attack viciously gay people and 'race mixing' and never attack conservative identified organizations . Do you personally 'own' them? See how easy this is!

Of course I assume you're aware that the name "Hezbollah" directly translates as "Army of God". :lamo

 

[DamnYankee]

Because the liberal leadership told LE to stand down.

Portland, Berkeley, and other leftists controlled cities where Antifa have full run of the place without police interference.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

And this is, somehow, more worthy of respect?

He’ll be apologizing for that soon enough. The Clown Show didn’t share the memo with Sleepy Joe. Antifa exists to do the democrats dirty work.

Yeah, I can certainly imagine that.

Do I really have to bring the whole conversation up all over again? ^^^

Felis Leo AGREES that "Antifa exists to the Democrats dirty work", so if that's what he thinks, then how does he feel when someone turns it around?

So what IS YOUR point, that I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT to TURN IT AROUND ON HIM so he can see how it feels?

Yeah, that must be it, you don't think I have the right to rhetorically turn the tables on him. You think I should bend over and remain silent.
Well, that's not gonna happen.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Sure...there is plenty of inevitable stupidity trotted out here all the time, by both sides. I mean, good grief, look what happens to "your side" when a woman dare alleges sexual misconduct...lol...

But a few people who stick in your mind because they pissed you off do not warrant generalization of over half your citizenry (per the last popular vote...teehee). Just like a few knuckle dragging white supremacists don't provide a means to generalize you. I think when threads start out with that kind of generalization, it totally buries the actual issue, and kicks of yet another round of "I know you are, but what am I". :shrug:

In the meantime, I've seen plenty of left leaning folk on DP denounce Antifa. Just like I've seen plenty of right leaning folk on DP denounce white supremacists.

Damn Yankee is yet another master of the "pointless messaging wars" that are polluting every political discussion forum on the planet and rendering rational debate impossible.

 

[X Factor]

Sure...there is plenty of inevitable stupidity trotted out here all the time, by both sides. I mean, good grief, look what happens to "your side" when a woman dare alleges sexual misconduct...lol...

Was it the same thing that happened on your side during the Clinton years?

But a few people who stick in your mind because they pissed you off do not warrant generalization of over half your citizenry (per the last popular vote...teehee). Just like a few knuckle dragging white supremacists don't provide a means to generalize you. I think when threads start out with that kind of generalization, it totally buries the actual issue, and kicks of yet another round of "I know you are, but what am I". :shrug:

In the meantime, I've seen plenty of left leaning folk on DP denounce Antifa. Just like I've seen plenty of right leaning folk on DP denounce white supremacists.

Which is happening in this very thread with no comment from you. If you’ve read any of my post in this thread, you see I questioned and disagreed with several righties so stuff whatever generalization you’re employing here.

 

[X Factor]

Do I really have to bring the whole conversation up all over again? ^^^

Felis Leo AGREES that "Antifa exists to the Democrats dirty work", so if that's what he thinks, then how does he feel when someone turns it around?

So what IS YOUR point, that I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT to TURN IT AROUND ON HIM so he can see how it feels?

Yeah, that must be it, you don't think I have the right to rhetorically turn the tables on him. You think I should bend over and remain silent.
Well, that's not gonna happen.

So it’s fine for you, just not anyone you disagree with.

 

[VanceMack]

I don't know anyone saying "But Trump" and I wonder why you're defending Nazis.
Richard Spencer, the guy made famous for being punched by an unknown person, IS IN FACT an admitted card carrying Nazi who continually preaches for a "white ethno-state cleansed of undesirable elements". (all who are not white supremacist Nazis)

I don't believe one needs to be Antifa in order to want to punch a Nazi.
Are you in fact defending Nazis? The entire free world got into a war to defeat Nazi fascism.

There's a reason that happened.

I was defending neither Trump nor Nazis...merely pointing out the corrupt idiot leftist ****s that rush to "But Trump...' or 'but Nazis...' whenever the topic of ANTIFA comes up.

 

[X Factor]

Damn Yankee is yet another master of the "pointless messaging wars" that are polluting every political discussion forum on the planet and rendering rational debate impossible.

Because only those on the right do it. :roll:

 

[X Factor]

I was defending neither Trump nor Nazis...merely pointing out the corrupt idiot leftist ****s that rush to "But Trump...' or 'but Nazis...' whenever the topic of ANTIFA comes up.

What you said was exactly correct and demonstrated in this very thread.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

So it’s fine for you, just not anyone you disagree with.

Uhhh, no...you still don't get it and that means that either you're being intentionally obtuse or....???

 

[Grand Mal]

It's about time. It only took a few days for Creepy Uncle Joe "Bite Me" to condemn the leftist fanatic Brownshirts, aka Antifa, for the severe beating of Andy Ngo who sustained life threatening injuries in Portland.

Too little too late. Creepy Uncle Joe is one of three 2020 leftists candidate to reluctantly condemn Antifa. Why did it take so long? Doesn't Uncle Joe stay informed?

Antifa commits these violent acts in the name of their ideology, liberalism, which may explain why other leftist fanatics don't condemn these acts.

Comments?

Biden condemns Antifa assault on journalist Andy Ngo

It's a special kind of stupid, saying that ANTIFA represent liberalism. Not many right whingers can achieve that level.
And there's literally nothing Biden could do short of kissing Trumps ass at high noon on the White House lawn that would satisfy you. So spare us the pouting and petulance.

 

[Hypothetical]

But you paint this false dichotomy, if it's not right then it's left sort of thing. Hence you bringing up that the violent thugs of Antifa don't vote Republican to implicate that they must be Democrats. It's not true, but this is your argument.

And while Antifa's violence knows no boarder, there is no doubt that they have gotten into brawls with Neo-Nazis. So in your false dichotomy, you claim they don't beat up liberals, so that means those Neo-Nazis are conservative.

lol

the standing issue is that they identify ANYONE who supports certain things that have NOTHING to do with fascism , as fascists (AS DO elements of the left's supporters) . As has been shown they are also applauded by certain elements on the left.

perhaps they aren't left per se, but they sure do seem to get the majority of their support from there.

I do applaud Biden for condemning them though.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I was defending neither Trump nor Nazis...merely pointing out the corrupt idiot leftist ****s that rush to "But Trump...' or 'but Nazis...' whenever the topic of ANTIFA comes up.

Not with me. I've been pissing on Antifa for the better part of three years right here on DP. There are at least two if not three left leaning people on my IGGY list because they either display Antifa avatars or they've generally excused Antifa for their violence in some way and defended them.

Mister, I am sixty-three years old and have a wife, career and family. That means that I understand how the world works, maybe just a wee bit, okay?
In other words, it means that I understand that fringe kooks are fringe kooks.

When I was a young man and I'd travel through the city, I'd see fringe-type people hanging around on streetcorners, handing out sweaty mimeographed screeds and handbills brimming with all kinds of way-out fanatical screeds and conspiracy theories.

There was no internet so that's all the "public square" they had to work with, that and the occasional rally or seminar in some seedy public hall where a handful of easily led chumps would assemble to hear their tirades.

Today they "own" a corner of the internet.

You want to point the finger at me or people like me because we drove past some of these kooks and pretend we showed up at that scuzzy rented hall to listen to that crap.
You can't put me there in that hall, so in desperation you're now demanding to know why we all didn't condemn these kooks as we drove by it.
You weren't in the car with me, so in further desperation you're now claiming we support it.

Pointless messaging wars and tribal signaling.
In other words, just more troll bait.

 

[Rickeroo]

It's about time. It only took a few days for Creepy Uncle Joe "Bite Me" to condemn the leftist fanatic Brownshirts, aka Antifa, for the severe beating of Andy Ngo who sustained life threatening injuries in Portland.

Too little too late. Creepy Uncle Joe is one of three 2020 leftists candidate to reluctantly condemn Antifa. Why did it take so long? Doesn't Uncle Joe stay informed?

Antifa commits these violent acts in the name of their ideology, liberalism, which may explain why other leftist fanatics don't condemn these acts.

Comments?

Biden condemns Antifa assault on journalist Andy Ngo

Well it's a start. I'm actually impressed with the stuff he said back in the 70's about busing. The bad part is that he didn't push back against Ocasio-Cortez.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

And there's literally nothing Biden could do short of kissing Trumps ass at high noon on the White House lawn that would satisfy you.

Then he'd be lambasted for not being a strongman who can stand up to Trump, so still not good enough.

It's a troll bait thread.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

That only works for so long. Antifa is a bunch of violent thugs playing at anarchy, pretending to fight fascists wherever they see them. But at core, they're just violent thugs who want an excuse for their violence. It's not a left/right thing, and they can tilt at the left just as easily.

They have, and I am betting they will again as the 2020 election season heats up, too.
As a relatively old man now, I don't think I have the health to survive another venture into the thick of it unscathed and I no longer have the kind of insurance on what little camera gear I didn't sell off to cover damage in the field anymore because I am semi-retired due to poor health.

So I don't envy any journalist who winds up there, and they will.
And the same cast of characters who are character assassinating everyone on the Left now will be poo-pooing any attack on a journalist by Antifa if that journalist isn't politically on the Right.

And those who ARE politically on the Right will be martyred and exploited in their cause celebre, namely lumping in all liberals as being in bed with Antifa.

The troll baiting continues.

 

[OlNate]

Was it the same thing that happened on your side during the Clinton years?



Which is happening in this very thread with no comment from you. If you’ve read any of my post in this thread, you see I questioned and disagreed with several righties so stuff whatever generalization you’re employing here.

Stuff whatever generalization I'm employing here? :lol: Ok, so it's this X today.

I was specifically speaking AGAINST generalization. Go on, read it again, I'll wait.



There...now that you have it straight, I'm sure you know where you can stuff your stuff it.... :lol:

As for "no comment from me"...the post you quoted does exactly that.

Also, I wasn't criticizing you, I was agreeing with you, don't be so damn defensive all the time.

Actually, holler when you bring Calm, Thinking X back. It's my first day back after a vacation, and I don't have my usual patience for Petulant Child X. Back to work Mondays suck.

 

[X Factor]

Stuff whatever generalization I'm employing here? :lol: Ok, so it's this X today.

I was specifically speaking AGAINST generalization. Go on, read it again, I'll wait.



There...now that you have it straight, I'm sure you know where you can stuff your stuff it.... :lol:

As for "no comment from me"...the post you quoted does exactly that.

Also, I wasn't criticizing you, I was agreeing with you, don't be so damn defensive all the time.

Actually, holler when you bring Calm, Thinking X back. It's my first day back after a vacation, and I don't have my usual patience for Petulant Child X. Back to work Mondays suck.

Some how you always make me lol, Nate. You’re not wrong. My “inner child” is petulant af. Even I don’t always like him.

 

[OlNate]

Some how you always make me lol, Nate. You’re not wrong. My “inner child” is petulant af. Even I don’t always like him.

I always like you, buddy... *hugz* But today I'm in no mood, I was sick pretty much my entire week off, and I've come back to a gong show. Me chatting here is helping me avoid telling everyone around me to **** off...

So knock it off! :lol:

 

[btthegreat]

Of course I assume you're aware that the name "Hezbollah" directly translates as "Army of God". :lamo

Wow! If Crystal and DamnYankee are right, this means that the Republican party and Donald Trump are directly linked to at least two national and one international terrorist organisations. Do you think they knew all along, or are they just naïve patsies who sent their votes and checks to these criminal organisations? Should we send all this to the Fox Network tip-line? -

 

[X Factor]

I always like you, buddy... *hugz* But today I'm in no mood, I was sick pretty much my entire week off, and I've come back to a gong show. Me chatting here is helping me avoid telling everyone around me to **** off...

So knock it off! :lol:

Sorry you haven’t been feeling ok, for real. I have sympathy. I spent a good 18 hours on the road over the last 48 delivering 3 raccoons and a baby skunk to a sanctuary and I’m feeling it, a little, today. See? I’m really not a total douche.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Some how you always make me lol, Nate. You’re not wrong. My “inner child” is petulant af. Even I don’t always like him.

Just take it easy on your libtard bruthas, take it easy on THE BRUTHAS, ya dig?
We're not all America hating Antifa hugging terrorists.

 

[OlNate]

Sorry you haven’t been feeling ok, for real. I have sympathy. I spent a good 18 hours on the road over the last 48 delivering 3 raccoons and a baby skunk to a sanctuary and I’m feeling it, a little, today. See? I’m really not a total douche.

Nah, I know...you just play one on DP... :lol:

Political discourse in America atm seems best described by comparing it to the part of the fight where everyone is pissed off and not making any sense. The next stage is storming off, followed by regret, hopefully leading to reconciliation. At some point in the future, both sides will realize they were out of control, and begin the process of getting over it.

 

[VanceMack]

Not with me. I've been pissing on Antifa for the better part of three years right here on DP. There are at least two if not three left leaning people on my IGGY list because they either display Antifa avatars or they've generally excused Antifa for their violence in some way and defended them.

Mister, I am sixty-three years old and have a wife, career and family. That means that I understand how the world works, maybe just a wee bit, okay?
In other words, it means that I understand that fringe kooks are fringe kooks.

When I was a young man and I'd travel through the city, I'd see fringe-type people hanging around on streetcorners, handing out sweaty mimeographed screeds and handbills brimming with all kinds of way-out fanatical screeds and conspiracy theories.

There was no internet so that's all the "public square" they had to work with, that and the occasional rally or seminar in some seedy public hall where a handful of easily led chumps would assemble to hear their tirades.

Today they "own" a corner of the internet.

You want to point the finger at me or people like me because we drove past some of these kooks and pretend we showed up at that scuzzy rented hall to listen to that crap.
You can't put me there in that hall, so in desperation you're now demanding to know why we all didn't condemn these kooks as we drove by it.
You weren't in the car with me, so in further desperation you're now claiming we support it.

Pointless messaging wars and tribal signaling.
In other words, just more troll bait.

Dear actions...I'd like you meet words. Words...meet actions.

Biden Condemns Antifa

Your first response in this thread. Thats why nothing you say on this board is relevant to me.