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Biden Condemns Antifa

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btthegreat said:
If he works really really hard, he will find some 'guilt by association' connections of individual people who may have attended a rally, and 10 years earlier attended a Farrakhan speech and then show a tangential connection of Farrakhan speaking to a Chicago gathering of community organizers, one of which was eventually elected as a city councilman as a Democrat, who also gave a speech at the local debate club considering reparations. That sort of thing is what these posters eat up from RW blogsphere
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Poor persecuted liberals. It’s all so very tragic!
 
Crystal said:
You have decided long ago that Trump supporters were white supremicists! You own that too. Now man up! You own the cowardly mask wearing thugs known as antifa.
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Why do libertarians own Antifa?

Why don't you own the White Supremacists then? You keep dancing around the issue. Say it, say YOU own the cowardly, ignorant white supremacists and all their murders.
 
Ikari said:
I believe there have been Democrats to condemn Antifa, even Pelosi has done so. And many on the "left" here have done so as well. There's perhaps a handful of folk on DP who have defended Antifa and I don't know of many Democrat politicians who have defended Antifa.

Antifa is a national problem, and one shouldn't trust these violent thugs to adhere to their current propaganda forever. They're just as much against the "left" as they are the "right".
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Lol. Name one liberal they’ve beaten the **** out of.
 
DamnYankee said:
It's my opinion and it's based on my personal observations. And since when do leftists give a spit about evidence? Or links? Yeah, been there done that. Find your own frickin "evidence" I'm not your social worker.
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We give a 'spit' about evidence when outrageous and unsupported claims surface designed to smear law abiding people with the deeds of law breakers for an agenda driven by RW fanatics.

Its your job to support your statements, not my job to disprove then. Your personal observations merit the same weight as a Trump claim of 'mentally stable genius'
 
DamnYankee said:
Yeah. While Andy Ngo was being given a brain bleed the chicken **** Portland Commish had his officers just stand there and watch. Typical leftist apologist.
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Good to know his very capable lawyer is planning to sue those who's inaction led to his brutal beating.
 
Crystal said:
Lol. Name one liberal they’ve beaten the **** out of.
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So you're admitting that the Neo-Nazis they get in fights with are conservatives?

lol
 
Please note up front, I'm not an ANTIFA advocate, and I'm not disagreeing with the post:
Tanngrisnir said:
Antifa aren't liberal.
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Sorta gives the impression that you support ... violence.
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Ostensibly ANTIFA is anti-fascist (which translates in some minds to anti-Trump). Anyone who does not support the alt-right agenda is, ergo, "liberal". It's important to appreciate the simplistic formulation. As Anarchism is not, actually, a liberal philosophy, you are factually correct, but understanding that facts don't matter is relevant to the response. Violence in support of anti-liberal existence is always acceptable in certain circles, as violence against fascism is in others. (E.g., "have you punched a Nazi today?") All we're really doing here is identifying circles. This is just tribe-signaling.
 
Crystal said:
So you want me to be good and the leftists can say what they want? Cause I’ve never seen you chastise one of them when they say Trump cultists are white supremaciists!
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Please, most of the lefties here hate my ****ing guts. :lol: The last conversation I had about antifa here, several lefties did minimize their actions and even tacitly supported them. I’m just glad that not everyone does that.
 
Crystal said:
Lol. Name one liberal they’ve beaten the **** out of.
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In Portland a few weeks ago they beat on a gay trans in a sun dress that dared to carry an American flag. They also beat on the old man that stepped in to protect the gray trans.
 
Crystal said:
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Poor persecuted liberals. It’s all so very tragic!
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What is being persecuted here is any semblance of intellectual honesty. Its a debate site, Crystal. We are supposed to be able prove our assertions around here. When someone claims to be able to connect criminal conduct with a major political party apparatus, you are supposed to be on the side demanding proof regardless as a critically thinking advocate for veracity. Maybe you should expect a little more of yourself.
 
Crystal said:
Lol. Name one liberal they’ve beaten the **** out of.
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Exactly.

When have you seen Antifa give a beat down at a Comrade BS rally? Or Fauxahontas rally? Or gone to the San Fransicko gay community to kick some ass? Or any leftist parade to beat down someone?

Makes you wonder why the left needs an enforcer arm, being all tolerant and such. lol
 
btthegreat said:
We give a 'spit' about evidence when outrageous and unsupported claims surface designed to smear law abiding people with the deeds of law breakers for an agenda driven by RW fanatics.

Its your job to support your statements, not my job to disprove then. Your personal observations merit the same weight as a Trump claim of 'mentally stable genius'
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Deal with it.
 
DamnYankee said:
Exactly.

When have you seen Antifa give a beat down at a Comrade BS rally? Or Fauxahontas rally? Or gone to the San Fransicko gay community to kick some ass? Or any leftist parade to beat down someone?

Makes you wonder why the left needs an enforcer arm, being all tolerant and such. lol
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Their targets are conservatives. The left owns that.
 
Crystal said:
They don’t get in fights! The move in gangs wearing hoodies and masks, they attack usually from behind with crowbars and rocks and cement blocks. They attack women, old men, journalist and they are a part of the violent left and leftist posters here defend them.



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But you paint this false dichotomy, if it's not right then it's left sort of thing. Hence you bringing up that the violent thugs of Antifa don't vote Republican to implicate that they must be Democrats. It's not true, but this is your argument.

And while Antifa's violence knows no boarder, there is no doubt that they have gotten into brawls with Neo-Nazis. So in your false dichotomy, you claim they don't beat up liberals, so that means those Neo-Nazis are conservative.

lol
 
DamnYankee said:
Exactly.

When have you seen Antifa give a beat down at a Comrade BS rally? Or Fauxahontas rally? Or gone to the San Fransicko gay community to kick some ass? Or any leftist parade to beat down someone?

Makes you wonder why the left needs an enforcer arm, being all tolerant and such. lol
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Probably because the right runs people over with cars.

lol
 
Ikari said:
But you paint this false dichotomy, if it's not right then it's left sort of thing. Hence you bringing up that the violent thugs of Antifa don't vote Republican to implicate that they must be Democrats. It's not true, but this is your argument.

And while Antifa's violence knows no boarder, there is no doubt that they have gotten into brawls with Neo-Nazis. So in your false dichotomy, you claim they don't beat up liberals, so that means those Neo-Nazis are conservative.

lol
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Nothing false. That’s just a typical liberal cop out!
 
Crystal said:
Nothing false. That’s just a typical liberal cop out!
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lol, do you understand what false dichotomy is?

So the Neo-Nazis that Antifa brawls with are conservative, by your own argument. And for right now, those Neo-Nazis have a higher body count than Antifa.

lol
 
VanceMack said:
In Portland a few weeks ago they beat on a gay trans in a sun dress that dared to carry an American flag. They also beat on the old man that stepped in to protect the gray trans.
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I don't understand why Portland's enforcement against Antifa is so lax. We know they're going to cause trouble and get into fights, specifically showing up to antagonize and cause violence. There needs to be a better, more proactive police presence in that case. Protest and counter-protest are fine, great even. But the rights of the People must be observed, and that means that you cannot just assault those for expressing an unpopular political belief.
 
Crystal said:
Nothing false. That’s just a typical liberal cop out!
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Leftists circle the wagons around their own, doesn't matter if it's Antifa or some other leftist subversive group. And then they wonder why every day Americans think they have a mental disorder.
 
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