Belgium- Muslim Political Party Seeks Islamic State- What Should be Done if Voters Agree?

[truthatallcost]

Considering the rate of immigration and birth rates of Muslims vs Europeans, its only a matter of time. Also...the current state shows that Muslims in Europe under 15 are at 27%, while Europeans under the age of 15 are 15%. They are migrating more, producing more children, and their future generations are by percentile stronger and healthier in numbers. By 2050, the UK stands to be 1/5th Muslim. France will be 12.7% Muslim. Belgium...18.2%. Austria...19.9%. Sweden...30.6%.

Isn't it odd that these people who are deathly afraid of Christians are practically bending over backwards to a religion that thinks women are whores if they go out in public without a mask on? I'll never understand the reasoning.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

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•Show me where the Biblical Law courts operate in the United States.

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Not going to bother with the others as I'm off out now but...

[h=1]Applying God’s Law: Religious Courts and Mediation in the U.S.[/h]
Across the United States, religious courts operate on a routine, everyday basis. The Roman Catholic Church alone has nearly 200 diocesan tribunals that handle a variety of cases, including an estimated 15,000 to 20,000 marriage annulments each year.1 In addition, many Orthodox Jews use rabbinical courts to obtain religious divorces, resolve business conflicts and settle other disputes with fellow Jews. Similarly, many Muslims appeal to Islamic clerics to resolve marital disputes and other disagreements with fellow Muslims.

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[Aristaeus]

Isn't it odd that these people who are deathly afraid of Christians are practically bending over backwards to a religion that thinks women are whores if they go out in public without a mask on? I'll never understand the reasoning.

I don't see anyone bending over backwards to Islam, I just see people who aren't paranoid about a Muslim party polling 1.7% in the polls forming a government.

 

[itsforthekids]

A political party in Belgium simply named "Islamic Party" is picking up steam. They've already gotten 4 candidates elected to public office, with 28 more to run in the coming municipal elections. Islamic Party's platform is described as seeking an Islamic State, with Sharia Law replacing Belgian law, and segregation of women from men, in some areas of society.



Belgium does not know how many Muslims live in the country, thanks to a Belgian law that prohibits the government from inquiring about the religious status of residents.

What should Belgium do if the Islamic Party wins election, and begins implementing Sharia Law & gender segregation in parts of Belgium?

They should live with it. You get the government that you deserve. This is going to have a domino effect all through Europe.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Freedom of speech doesn't extend to Muslims?

 

[truthatallcost]

Not going to bother with the others as I'm off out now but...



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You're talking about two completely separate things as if they're related. Those 'Christian religious courts' you're referring to, are a part of Catholicism, and exist as a way for Catholics to obtain an anullment from marriage, in the eyes of the Catholic Church.

This is of course quite different than Sharia Law as it's practiced in countries like your own, where men can use the Sharia Court to obtain two wives, flouting British law.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...untries-religious-rulings-quran-a8064796.html

Also, please be aware of the implications on society of the push for Sharia Law. As Muslim populations grow in the west, they will want to establish their own law as supreme, as it exists in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan.

 

[truthatallcost]

Freedom of speech doesn't extend to Muslims?

Not when they want revolution. It's time to show the guests to the door. Not surprised that you voted for an Islamic State in Belgium either.

 

[Carjosse]

Not when they want revolution.

Because you believe it should only apply to white Christians.

 

[truthatallcost]

They should live with it. You get the government that you deserve. This is going to have a domino effect all through Europe.

That would be a disaster that the world may never recover from. I, for one, hope that Europe reverses the course it's on before groups like the Islamic Party of Belgium gain popularity.

 

[truthatallcost]

Because you believe it should only apply to white Christians.

Explain.

 

[itsforthekids]

That would be a disaster that the world may never recover from. I, for one, hope that Europe reverses the course it's on before groups like the Islamic Party of Belgium gain popularity.

It's too late.

 

[Peter King]

Almost 10 years ago now, over 20% of the Brussels regional parliament was comprised of Muslims.

In 2009, Muslims occupied 19 out of the 89 seats in Brussels Regional Parliament.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Belgium

They're mostly left leaning for now, but that will change. The only real political platform for practicing Muslims is the Koran. They know that left leaning parties like the socialists will help weaken society faster, so they'll be socialists for the time being, which will help them drive their population numbers up & get them into positions of power. The Islamic State will come much later, after socialism and secularism has ridden the country of any deterrents to Sharia.

Yes, but you were talking about this Islam Party. And of course they will be Muslims in the Brussels regional parliament, it is where most of them live. Why would Muslims who were born in Belgium not become members of a political party? Because there is no Muslim party in the Brussels Regional Parliament, not the one. All of them are members of regular political parties. These are the not radicalized or badly integrated Muslims, no these are some of the best integrated Muslims because Muslims can be socialist, can be green party, can be center right, can be marxist, can be liberal democrats, they can be from just about every party. Well almost every party except the racist right.

And that is integration, and why would that change. They don't suddenly become sharia loving people. And the Islamic stat will never arrive because there are nowhere near enough for them to ever come anywhere close to a majority.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

I've said neither of those things. But, Indo-Europeans are Caucasian and have a unique culture and society that needs to be respected by newcomers. If they can't respect the culture of Europe, then they need to get the hell back to the places they came from, not try to change Europe into the hellhole they escaped from.
Lie #2. I've cited Japan and other Asian countries with low crime/high homogeneity levels in nearly every thread that was about crime rates. You've conveniently forgotten about that now.

•Provide current American legislation that is based upon Biblical Law.

•Show me where the Biblical Law courts operate in the United States.

•Point me in the direction of the Christian Party which demands gender segregation in major American cities.

•Show me pictures of fundamentalist Christians holding holding signs that say "behead those that criticize Christianity".

*poof* the rabid alpaca disappears once again.

So is Europe a homogenous culture of white people or is it a mad-max shariah dystopia overrun by the Muslim horde? You need to choose.

 

[VanceMack]

Isn't it odd that these people who are deathly afraid of Christians are practically bending over backwards to a religion that thinks women are whores if they go out in public without a mask on? I'll never understand the reasoning.

They dont use logic or reason. They defend all things Islam out of their kneejerk hatred of Christians and Conservatives.

 

[Peter King]

Well thank you for your informed post here Peter. I wish I could be as optimistic about this as you, but seeing the effects that this religion has had nearly everywhere it's gone in great numbers in the world, I'm skeptical that Belgium well truly integrate ever growing numbers of Muslims without an eventual break in society, where Muslims demand their own separate system to replace Belgian law. I think Europe is admitting the wolves to live amongst the sheep, and is utterly blind as to what their future holds for them.

Belgium is always a difficult country because of the three languages, a royal family with more of a French connection than a Flemish one, three different regional parliaments and many more other issues, like having very fragmented political system with ever party having 2 separate entities. One French and one Flemish.

But Muslims will not become a Belgium wide issue, there are just not enough of them, by far not enough.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

Explain.

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:doh

 

[Manc Skipper]

Not when they want revolution. It's time to show the guests to the door. Not surprised that you voted for an Islamic State in Belgium either.

I don't live in Belgium, which is a separate country, and NOT "capital of Europe" either. I didn't have a vote. Here in Europe, we don't obsess over someone's religion, unless they try to push it in our faces. They're following the democratic process so far, as they are entitled to do. The sky is not falling here yet. Sorry to disappoint youse.

 

[Manc Skipper]

They dont use logic or reason. They defend all things Islam out of their kneejerk hatred of Christians and Conservatives.

Don't project your overweening hate on me. I feel only pity in response. There, there.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

They dont use logic or reason. They defend all things Islam out of their kneejerk hatred of Christians and Conservatives.

That's not true, I hate Christians, conservatives and Muslims equally. You're all just ****ing awful, keep your religions out of our politics.

 

[VanceMack]

That's not true, I hate Christians, conservatives and Muslims equally. You're all just ****ing awful, keep your religions out of our politics.

WHo is injecting religion into your politics.

And sorry...but history shows that leftists trip over themselves to defend all things Muslim. You may hate Muslims...OK...but you hate Christians so much that it causes you to rush in and defend Muslims even when Christianity isnt even mentioned. Goofy...but there you are.

 

[VanceMack]

Don't project your overweening hate on me. I feel only pity in response. There, there.

Careful...another kneeling subject in your ****hole country sees your comments and you could be thrown in jail for offending me.

****ing pathetic. How did your entire country so easily find your knees?

 

[RabidAlpaca]

WHo is injecting religion into your politics.

And sorry...but history shows that leftists trip over themselves to defend all things Muslim. You may hate Muslims...OK...but you hate Christians so much that it causes you to rush in and defend Muslims even when Christianity isnt even mentioned. Goofy...but there you are.

When I see one group I hate trying to subjugate and attack another group I hate I'm going to troll at least the aggressor, possibly both. If I lived in a society dominated by Muslims I'd spend most of my time attacking Muslims. Instead I live in a Christian society so they're going to be the ones making the most problems and thus getting the most push-back.

 

[VanceMack]

When I see one group I hate trying to subjugate and attack another group I hate I'm going to troll at least the aggressor, possibly both. If I lived in a society dominated by Muslims I'd spend most of my time attacking Muslims. Instead I live in a Christian society so they're going to be the ones making the most problems and thus getting the most push-back.

Oh yes...Its THE CHRISTIANS that are making your poor sad pathetic life miserable.

Not the people stoning women for being raped. Not the people that kill their children for wearing western clothing or dating outsidfe their religion. Not the people hanging homosexuals from construction cranes and bridges.

Its the Christians that are oppressing you.

:lamo

You sound so pathetic right now its embarrassing watching.

 

[PeteEU]

Oh yes...Its THE CHRISTIANS that are making your poor sad pathetic life miserable.

Who said we are miserable?

Not the people stoning women for being raped.

No one in Europe is stoned for being raped.

Not the people that kill their children for wearing western clothing or dating outsidfe their religion.

You do know that this is also done by Jews and Christians right? Honor killings happen all the time in Christianity.. we just call it domestic violence. Religious Jews demand conversion if you fall in love with one of their own.. funny eh?

Not the people hanging homosexuals from construction cranes and bridges.

Does not happen in Europe. It might be something your friends want to do, but we in Europe dont treat homosexuals as evil beings.

Its the Christians that are oppressing you.

No one is oppressing us in Europe since we are free and democratic.

:lamo

You sound so pathetic right now its embarrassing watching.

The only one pathetic and embarrassing are people like you.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Oh yes...Its THE CHRISTIANS that are making your poor sad pathetic life miserable.
Not the people stoning women for being raped. Not the people that kill their children for wearing western clothing or dating outsidfe their religion. Not the people hanging homosexuals from construction cranes and bridges.
Its the Christians that are oppressing you.
:lamo
You sound so pathetic right now its embarrassing watching.

I'm not oppressed, and my life isn't poor or miserable. Christians are the only people using their religion to enforce laws on me. Muslims do not do that to me because I do not live in a Muslim society. I think both groups are awful and childish, but one overwhelmingly causes more problems for me than the other, so they get proportionally more scorn. Feel free to make up more strawmen, but I reject the government enforcing any religion's laws.