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As usual, Jimmy Carter tells the truth

Don't forget that those double digit inflation rates on our debt was passed on to Reagan added to the deficits under Reagan each year, and his tax cuts and pro business attitude got inflation back under control.

Could you quit polluting my thread with your ignorance? It was Carter's policies, including appointing Paul Volcker to the Fed, which ended inflation, not Reagan, when those policies took effect. What Reagan did do was to use the national credit card to add to our debt like never before in peacetime to buy some 'prosperity'. Some things you didn't know:

"Even with a bad recession in 1980 to bring down the averages, employment rose sharply, the economy expanded at a healthy clip, personal incomes rose and federal deficits declined during Carter’s four years in office.

Of the presidents who’ve served in the past 40 years, only Clinton’s presidency saw faster job growth than Carter’s, and only Clinton had lower federal deficits.

Carter also took the first steps in deregulating the economy — such as the trucking, airlines, energy and banking industries — and was the first to propose that the United States ought to have an energy policy that would include strong conservation efforts and renewable energy sources."

Jimmy Carter deserves our thanks, not our scorn - MarketWatch
 
The arrogance of the Left.

Uh, no. The ignorance, the dishonesty, the idiocy of the right's voters, the corruption of the right's leaders.
 
Good point. 4 million vote difference between Hillary and the President. All of the National vote margin and then some.

We both know the question I asked will never get answered......

Because it exposes the hypocrisy. Out of one side of their mouths they cry about Trump collusion and Russia getting him elected (as if his blistering schedule which make Hillary look like a lump didn't help get him elected) and out of the other, they boast that Hillary really won because she got some 3 million more votes. Well, if the latter is the case, then the Russians SUCK at meddling!
 
Because it exposes the hypocrisy. Out of one side of their mouths they cry about Trump collusion and Russia getting him elected (as if his blistering schedule which make Hillary look like a lump didn't help get him elected) and out of the other, they boast that Hillary really won because she got some 3 million more votes. Well, if the latter is the case, then the Russians SUCK at meddling!

Can't argue with that logic. :thumbs:
 
Can't argue with that logic. :thumbs:

Here's some more logic. If Putin installed Trump, Obama let it happen. Or, Obama was SO incompetent that he failed to stop it.
An American President allowed Russia to install his successor.
 
Instead of the Right Winger coming to this website to learn... they come only to "spin drama" and engage their clone groomed ignorance. They only know on agenda. "Attack Something"... they live with the barbaric conduct because they are groomed in the nature of savagery. This is not said as some cliche thing... it is simply the true nature of their ideology.
They follow the ignorance of Trump, because Trump has a daily mentality of "Attack Something"... He's denigrated every aspect of America, American Governance and American Values, American Diplomacy and Bastardized the principles of the Separation of Powers.
We can go back to the acts of the Nixon President, and the Cheney, Rumsfeld from the days of Nixon... to the malice of the the promotion of their power monger acts that pushed the premise of "Unitary Executive". We saw nothing but a drunkard who was Cheney to the Power Madness Arrogance of Rumsfeld... that damaged American in multiple Administrations.

Carter was and still is "An Honest Broker"... he brought intellect into the Administration, and was attacked because he would not lend himself to the "let's attack something mentality of Republican Right Winger, who delude themselves with the term Conservative"... The only thing they want to Conserve is the right for Tax Money to be spent "ONLY" on what they want, at the expense and deprivation of others. They lay out the Red Carpet for any bigots, and belligerent race bias types and hate groups, because at core, since the Nixon Era Southern Stragety, they have been entrenched in attacks upon and against Civil Rights. They continue to feel that Minorities and Women are to defer to "the old game" of "White Nationalism of Wealthy White Male Dominance"... and they delude the poor whites to back and support it, when they are themselves the greatest threat to poor whites. They have never and will never consider poor whites to be on any level of equality or par with the White Nationalist Wealthy White Male Establishment !!! They detest these poor whites have 'white skin", so they find every means to ensure there remain a segregation barrier between themselves and poor whites, while at the same time they feed the drama, to continue to act as pawns and foot soldiers to protect the turf of the White Nationalist White Male Establishment.

We see it vividly with the make up of the Trump supporters... They pledge themselves to any Wealthy White Man who preaches belligerence, race bias and promotes delusional false promises, as they still thing after 100's of years the wealthy white man is going to give them something, and accept them as equals because they have white skin. "It's the damnest thing ever, that so many poor and working poor whites can be so blind, stupid, and ignorant for so long".
Trump gave the wealthy massive tax concessions, and now wants to give them more with an attack on capital gain taxes, to give them even more. While the nations sits on $22 Trillion of Debt, broken infrastructure, underfunded educational system that have not advanced nor improved in process or developments, where the big pharmacy fleeces the people and the hospital system and their doctors networks have 'cornered the industry with Price Fixing, to further enrich themselves. Because they see these poor whites, working poor whites and minorities as disposable... because the wealthy feel no need for them, when they can find slave wage labor in other places on the planet.
Trump sold us out to Russia and Saudi...and Saudi, is pushing him into war posturing, because the Saudi's made the greatest wealth transfer in history with the high cost of fuel during Iraq War and they want a repeat of further enriching themselves, and they know a war with Iran represents a financial windfall for Saudi's.

These Right Wingers will never face truth... their agenda is based in "let's attack something"... like a wild posse in an old western movie, they are obsessed with the premise and promotion of "attack" because that's the nature of what is the conduct of savagery. They know nothing nor care anything about diplomacy and civility.
 
Carter said what everyone should be saying. Trump is illegitimate. He was put in place by Russia.

Only the useful idiots fail to see it.

Democrats found out that Hillary received millions more in donated Russian dollars before the election than did any of her fellow democrats, and that Trump got nothing. Their dummass conclusion: Putin wanted Trump to win.
 
He was not "duly" elected. He was put in place by a foreign adversary. Your argument is dismissed.

Hair-on-fire dummass democrat conspiracy theory: Putin appointed Trump to office in spite of the will of the American people.
 
Jimmy Carter has spent decades among other things as one of the world's most respected election inspectors, looking for corruption in elections in many countries. Now, he told the truth about our last presidential election, the same thing a top intelligence official said, that the evidence clearly shows trump lost the election, and Russian actions gave the election to trump.

Jimmy Carter says Trump only won the election because Russia '''interfered on his behalf'''


This thread isn't for his cult to parrot the cult dogma lying to protect trump.

Of course they say that.

Truth doesn't matter to them. The nice cocoon and bubble of their cult. If trump did a study and it found the above to be the case and he agreed, they wouldn't care. If it came out tomorrow that trump had hundreds of people killed, it wouldn't matter, as long as they didn't like the victims. They don't value democracy - they're his cult.

and we have finally recovered from his administration. What he says, other than in Habitat for Humanity issues, doesn't hold any water anymore.
 
Presidents that Moved Us Forward !!!

PRESIDENTS WHO MOVED "AMERICA FORWARD" and did so with "dignity and integrity" in purpose and functional manner

20th Century:
Bills and Measures that Promoted the Values laid out in The Preamble while Respecting The Constitution and the Separation of Powers.


Franklin Roosevelt -
Rebuilding The Nations Economy, Control on Banking and Creating Social Security,

Dwight Eisenhower -
Building the Nations Freeway System, Standing Against The Military Industrial Complex

John F. Kennedy
Promoting Respect for Human Equality- Supporting Civil Rights Movement, Brought The Country Out Of Recession, Equal Pay Act, and Formation of the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, Initiated the Alliance for Progress for Development in Latin America

Lyndon Johnson
Passing Civil Rights Act {broken the back segregation, made it Illegal!! to promote segregation!}, Voting Rights Act, Appointing First Black Man to Supreme Court, Medicare/Medicaid, Job Corps, 1965 Immigration Act, War on Poverty,

Jimmy Carter
Established the Dept of Energy, Established the Dept of Education, Step to Environmental Protections! and Promoting Peace in the Middle East {Camp David Accord}, Advance Global Promotion for Human Rights


Bill Clinton
Longest Economic Expansion, Brady Bill, the Family and Medical Leave Act, Investing in Science, Technology and Biomedical Research, Expanding Electronic Government Information accessibility, Expanding Electronic Government

21st Century: -
Bills and Measures that Promoted the Values laid out in The Preamble

Barack Obama
Rescued the Economy, Passed Health Care Reform, Passed Wall Street Reform, Negotiated a Deal to Block A Nuclear Iran, Secured U.S. Commitment to a Global Agreement on Climate Change, Eliminated Osama bin Laden, Turned Around the U.S. Auto Industry, Reversed Bush Torture Policies, Established Rules to Limit Carbon Emissions from Power Plants, Put Medicare on Sounder Financial Footing, Protected DREAMers from Deportation, Established Net Neutrality*, Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Funding, Improved America’s Image Abroad, Diversified the Federal Bureaucracy, Revived the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division, Expanded Wilderness and Watershed Protection, {Kick-started Clean Energy Investment -(Carter set it in motion) }, Passed Credit Card Reforms, Reduced Discrimination Against Former Prisoners in Federal Hiring, Won Major Victories Against Housing and Mortgage Discrimination, Expanded Health Coverage for Children, Improved Food Safety, Pull Troops from Iraq on pre-agreed schedule.
 
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Uh, no, but you mean trump having his cult chant 'lock her up' constantly, and calling for his political opponents to be jailed? You're projecting.

Democrats cannot seem to understand the way free Americans dictate to Trump because they are so accustomed to think it is the national party heads which are supposed to dictate to them like it is done with democrats.
 
Oh, the horror, of public education, public libraries, public police and fire, public roads, Social Security, the Veterans Administration healthcare. Republicans have shown they are willing to privatize anything, creating corruption, harmful agendas for profit (e.g., private prisons and longer jail sentences as favors to them for political donations), inefficiencies for profits.

Democrats do not like law enforcement agencies and prisons, likely because so many of their base disfavors police officers and prisons for personal reasons. Democrats also hate laws protecting our borders and our elections from being corrupted by invading illegals.
 
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Idiotic attack.
You're projecting again. For just an example this week, the five radical right on the Supreme Court violating the constitution's religious neutrality by claiming the Christian cross to be a secular, non-religious symbol in order to allow it on public land, or giving Republicans what they want with approval for radical partisan Gerrymandering.

Democrats despise SCOTUS rulings that go against their agenda but they also despise anyone questioning SCOTUS rulings which are in favor of their agenda. I don't think enough Americans realize that modern democratic America is fast becoming a nation being radically revolutionized by politics and political agendas, and is being turned by democrat judges away from common sense interpretations of long-standing laws and values. Democrats are out to change the US Constitution and America through individual rulings by radical democrat judges.
 
Like more fiscal responsibility, protecting the public's interest from corporate abuses, people having healthcare and education. The horror!

Democrat theology: "Goddamm America and its white Constitution, GD the rich and corporations, GD the police and border control agents, GD American remembrances of civil war heroes, GD those trying to keep doctors from delivering live fetuses so their body parts can be harvested and sold for profit, GD Christians and GD their Bible and their God.
 
You're projecting again. First, you just described democracy - people who want policies and vote for laws. Second, you're the fricken party who just passes unconstitutional bans on abortion in multiple states, and is wholly owned by corrupt interests against the American people.

Democrat political assessment: Conservative Christians are evil because they work for Putin to disenfranchise democrat voters and stop ungodly democrat women from sentencing their unborn babies to death for their own sexual interests and convenience.
 
In this very thread, you have right-wingers advocating for Republicans getting to 'oppose' homosexuality - the history including jailing people for gay sex and banning the right to marry - and you talk about imposing 'their way on everyone else'.

You made your case, and it's lacking.

Christians teach all men that God hates Sodomy. Those advocating murdering homosexuals include Muslims, many across the world who are close friends with and large monetary supporters of American democrat politicians.
 
It wasn't the first time this tactic was used by republicans, either Notes Indicate Nixon Interfered With 1968 Peace Talks
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This little game potentially cost the American people another 21,190 young lives.

Such patriots the GOP gifts us with.

It seems misguided to blame only Kennedy, Johnson or Nixon for the loss of life in Vietnam while leftists at home opposed to victory in Vietnam were bombing federal buildings, killing innocent Americans, rioting in the streets and spitting on our troops getting off at the point of reentry into the US.
 
More historical revisionism by the con artist victims.

So decisive - like when he said the bombing of Marines in Lebanon, where they didn't belong but he owed Israel for their help in Iran-Contra crimes, would NOT make him withdraw them, that US honor was on the line, weeks before he withdrew them; when he decisively said 'the US will not negotiate with terrorists' while secretly trading missiles for hostages with Iran.

Democrats do not do well in the military but they sure think they know better than the experts as they drink themselves silly on their democrat couches in their democrat homes being made safe by patriotic Americans sacrificing their lives overseas to keep America safe.
 
Carter is 1000% right on the money about Trump. He is illegitimate.

Wait, was Carter right on the money when he said this? Which Carter do you believe?


"Former President Jimmy Carter said in a recent interview that he does not believe Russia stole the election from former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton

“I don’t think there’s any evidence that what the Russians did changed enough votes, or any votes," Carter told The New York Times in an interview published on Saturday.

The former president notes in the interview that he and former first lady Rosalynn Carter disagree on the matter.

“Rosie and I have a difference of opinion on that,” he said. “They [the Russians] obviously did,” the former first lady said."
 
Truth is ... most of these "old head right winger, from the birth during the segregation era" will be dying out in the next decade... and with this all this Right Wing Vitriol will diminish greatly in America. many of these spewing the Right Wing Confederate Madness, were either born during segregation or born from the first generation of right winger post Civil Right Act's passage... Still lusting and dreaming of the days they were fed the folklore of a white nationalist ideal system. Many of them come from families of dire poor whites and near poor working whites, unaware of the disenfranchisement that was structured and promoted as a process to not only retain segregation of minorities, they are unaware of the fact the middle class and well to do and wealthy, were and still are determined to keep segregation alive to separate and segregate the poor and poor working whites from the well to do and wealthy whites. They are wiping out the middle class, because it allowed too many poor whites to think they could cross the lines into the well to do white and wealthy white sectors.

They won't admit it to themselves, but they know exactly what parts of town where the well to do and wealthy whites live, in every city in this nation, and they know not to go there trying to mix and mingle as if they will be accepted as equals in any regard. Its does not matter if they have a pretty daughter or a handsome son, he is not welcome to date, engage, or marry the well to do or within the ranks of the wealthy. They know this, but have a vain hope, that if they can get some money... it will give them access.... when truth is... the well to do, and wealthy who have a history of being so... call them "new money trash" and they don't want them mixing and mingling in their neck of the society.
Trump made damn sure they would not rush to any of his properties trying to have wedding, he upped the membership fees and all other fee based cost and they can't meet the approval process to even consider having their wedding at his properties. he does now want them to down grade it where the wealthy no longer feel it is their private domain. They can wear all the MAGA hats they want, it won't get them into a Trump property... These hats were not made for the wealthy, they were made to identify readily his foot soldiers as pawns who bought and paid for that hat, thinking it would give them some level of identity with Trump... all it shows Trump is how he can fleece them and identify them from a distance. So can the well to do and wealthy whites spot them from a distance, and they do all they can to insure to keep and maintain that distance, and these poor whites know it!!! but can't admit it, it will shatter their concept of life to face such truth straight up..

When he amass them and drain their pockets at his Belligerent Fest... he knows all he has to do is "talking about attacking something" and 'bully level name calling" and they will chant and hoop and holler like true devoted cult members. All the while he install Right Wing Judges that promote the agenda of the wealthy, and will gladly lock up any and every one of these poor and working poor whites they can, for as long as they can.

You think Trump will ever venture to a out in the Country Trailer Park... or some area where low income tract homes or low income prefab modular homes exist. NOPE... its not his turf, and not his area of high concern, other than to use them for vote getting, so he can continue finding ways to avoid the rich from paying taxes, and destroy social and public supported programs. He told their dumb asses that all he wanted in his Administration was "wealthy people"... and they still did not figure out what it meant. he told them how gullible and dumb he thought them to be when he said, he could shoot someone and they'd still follow him. Then he present a "screw you" pretense of a health plan, that was designed to help them die out if they posed any chance of costing the usage of tax money to save them.
He led off by giving them someone to low down upon.. the Mexican and Central American people... and they were thrilled they had someone to look down upon to make them think they were able to use their white skin to be accepted by the whites nationalist grouping of well to do and wealthy whites"....

The same well to do and wealthy whites who made sure to promote Republican who would insure they don't think they can go to university and get a pass to to hang out with well to do and wealthy whites.. they simply priced them out of the game of such self delusion.
 
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What's your point? It was actually the day Carter left office, because of the treason Reagan's campaign committed in sabotaging Carter's agreement to get them released in a secret deal with Iran, in order to win the election.
but it’s okay when the left does it, right?
 
Trumps love of Russia is because the symbolism of the Wealthy Oligarch's and those who are well to do who are closest to that circle... maintain a great distance between themselves and the poor Russian...
The same as the wealthy whites and well to do whites in America maintain their distance from poor white Americans.

The Wealthy Control "everything" in Russia.... including the political arena.... and Trump loves that Idea.... He also love that Russia has no reserves about "money washing" or "wealthy take over of anything and everything they want"... He loves that Putin has unquestioned authority, and can if he wants 'kill off any competitor", Trump tries to do it the same by and through the game of name calling and belligerent commentary...

Trump has captured the Right Wing Republican Congress, they worship his money, fear his vile and belligerence will be directed at and upon them, and that he will pay to expose dirt on them if they speak up against him.

they know he loves to play the game of "sue someone" and they know it will cost them money to defend against it, so they are scared and captured in their own vanity and malice to try and hide in plain sight.
 
Please note the site says "rumors."

No proof.
Please note the article is 10 paragraphs long, not two. Your reference to 'rumors' in paragraph 2 in the reference predates the findings and substance in documentation noted in paragraphs 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9. Lord of Planar reads through his agenda when he should be reading past his agenda.

You're going to have to do some actual work to discredit this beyond scanning for a single word - like read the link?
 
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