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AOC Hits it out of the Park again

Candidate? Thankfully, this dumb woman can't run for president because she is not old enough.
Some people here actually find her intelligent... LOL

Yes, those of us with brains recognize others who have them. That is correct.
 
AOC's work outside of Committee can use some help. But she is an absolute monster in Committee. Sharp as a tack, very direct and to the point. Even more impressive is how she uses her skills in Committee. Virtually everybody else on the panel is ahead of her in rank and thus gets to go through their gibberish or questioning ahead of her. Yet often it gets down to her and she ends up with the best 5 minutes anybody has had in an hour or two.
 
For those of you who still call her vulgar sexist names, and say she's dumb as a bag of rocks, watch as she masterfully makes her points within her five-minute time limit!

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On one of Ben Shapiro's podcasts he play's recordings back to back one of which is AOC and the other a first grader talking politics. You literally can't tell the difference. She needs to be removed. Running the government is not a joke or an experiment. She did well to get this far but it's just not happening.
 
I heart Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The woman has more intelligence and more balls than damn near anyone in Congress. She uses them on behalf of the People of the United States. She is a welcomed and rare breath of fresh air.

She’s a loud mouth with no substance... just like Trump :shrug:
 
Heh ... well, technically it's our opinion of her intelligence since we don't have a hard score to refer to. I don't begrudge you your opinion.

I understand if you don't think of her as highly as I do. Certainly aren't many libertarians out there singing her praises. But, I tried to explain it above. I think she's cool but I also think she's a huge help battling socialist policies.

I'm not saying that she is not cool; I'm not saying that she isn't likable. I'm saying that she isn't very knowledgable. If anything, her knowledge on anything is about average (you believe it to be above average, so you're more generous than I).

I don't need my representatives to be my friends. I need my representatives to be just that: a representative.
 
I'm not saying that she is not cool; I'm not saying that she isn't likable. I'm saying that she isn't very knowledgable. If anything, her knowledge on anything is about average (you believe it to be above average, so you're more generous than I).

I don't need my representatives to be my friends. I need my representatives to be just that: a representative.

She is representing the people. Duh.
 
I'm not saying that she is not cool; I'm not saying that she isn't likable. I'm saying that she isn't very knowledgable. If anything, her knowledge on anything is about average (you believe it to be above average, so you're more generous than I).

I don't need my representatives to be my friends. I need my representatives to be just that: a representative.

Totally fair. It's worth noting that she is specifically a representative of a small section of NYC and my understanding is her views and such match a lot of what they want.

Out of curiosity, is it maybe her knowledge and not her intelligence you find average? I would agree with that, but I do think she's a little smarter than she appears because of the gaps in knowledge and lack of shyness in speaking out anyway ;)

Anyway, obviously neither of us disagrees strongly here.
 
I heart Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The woman has more intelligence and more balls than damn near anyone in Congress. She uses them on behalf of the People of the United States. She is a welcomed and rare breath of fresh air.

We all have heart for someone. I am sure AOC would love to know of your heart for her but unless you are one of her constituents it does her no good. And reports out there saying her constituents are not happy with her as she has been ignoring their local needs while she is out their blaming all that is wrong with the world on Climate. I guess her heart isn't in the Bronx her constituents have been wanting her to address.
Ocasio-Cortez's 'heart is not in The Bronx', locals say

If this continues poor AOC may be out after one term.
 
Yeah, I'd figured that you were such an AOC stan that you wouldn't be able to deal with any criticism of AOC without bringing Trump into this.

For your information, Trump and AOC are mirror images of one another: Demonstrably uninformed.

Now learn to make an argument without engaging in whataboutery.

You'd be wrong, lol, but that appears to be a habit of yours. AOC's policy proposals are far too radical for me, and completely undoable both fiscally and socially at this point. Someday, perhaps, but not now.

I knew absolutely nothing about her except all the sexist, vulgar insults conservatives have been heaping on her since last year, when their rape fantasies and boob fetishes graced DP pages every day since last November, and beyond.

First time I heard her speak was in her capacity as a member of the House Judiciary Committee, during Micheal Cohen's testimony. Contrary to most of her colleagues on both sides of the aisle, she spent her five minutes with expertly-prepared questions, the answers to which opened a previously unknown area for committee investigation and insight, along with soliciting answers to "what, where, why, when, and who else should be talk to?"

All in five freaking minutes in a completely efficient, professional, non-political manner, sans sarcasm, blow-harderly, blame-mongering or self-aggrandizing puffery. I found it refreshing for a politician, even a baby one, and have since discovered that she continues to perform her congressional duties in the same no-nonsense manner, and is always impeccably prepared (or was for the instances I've seen).

Now learn how to make an argument by actually watching/reading what others have posted without blindly engaging in dismissive "propoganda" claims.

P.S. I'm a registered republican, not a partisan mouthpiece. I don't have to read daily talking points to know what I think. It's fun; try it sometime! :)
 
An objective look at the "intelligence:"

AOC: "I'm concerned about the potentiality of fines related to misconduct just being incorporated as the cost of doing business. Are you guys taking fines into account for your risk analysis?"

Corbat: "Absolutely Not."

AOC: "People have gone to jail for jumping the turnstyle. Should more people have gone to jail for their role in the financial crisis?"

Dimon: "Ask a laywer..."

Am missing something here?

What’s wrong with either question?
 
You'd be wrong, lol, but that appears to be a habit of yours. AOC's policy proposals are far too radical for me, and completely undoable both fiscally and socially at this point. Someday, perhaps, but not now.

I knew absolutely nothing about her except all the sexist, vulgar insults conservatives have been heaping on her since last year, when their rape fantasies and boob fetishes graced DP pages every day since last November, and beyond.

First time I heard her speak was in her capacity as a member of the House Judiciary Committee, during Micheal Cohen's testimony. Contrary to most of her colleagues on both sides of the aisle, she spent her five minutes with expertly-prepared questions, the answers to which opened a previously unknown area for committee investigation and insight, along with soliciting answers to "what, where, why, when, and who else should be talk to?"

All in five freaking minutes in a completely efficient, professional, non-political manner, sans sarcasm, blow-harderly, blame-mongering or self-aggrandizing puffery. I found it refreshing for a politician, even a baby one, and have since discovered that she continues to perform her congressional duties in the same no-nonsense manner, and is always impeccably prepared (or was for the instances I've seen).

Now learn how to make an argument by actually watching/reading what others have posted without blindly engaging in dismissive "propoganda" claims.

P.S. I'm a registered republican, not a partisan mouthpiece. I don't have to read daily talking points to know what I think. It's fun; try it sometime! :)

Yep. She's not of my political persuasion either. But, it's pretty clear that she is doing what she was actually elected to do. And, the light she shines on the cockroaches in the Capitol is priceless.
 
Totally fair. It's worth noting that she is specifically a representative of a small section of NYC and my understanding is her views and such match a lot of what they want.

Prehaps. I don't know if that is true. She only recieved 17,000 in a district with 700,000 registered voters.

Out of curiosity, is it maybe her knowledge and not her intelligence you find average? I would agree with that, but I do think she's a little smarter than she appears because of the gaps in knowledge and lack of shyness in speaking out anyway ;)

Anyway, obviously neither of us disagrees strongly here.

I expect her not to know lots of things working her first real job in a long time. However, to profess that she has knowledge that no one else doesn't is ridiculous. Is she smarter than she appears? Maybe. Politics is permeated with a desperate need to be right about everything. It doesn't hurt to just admit that there is some things you don't know.

She's far too arrogant for me to give her a chance.
 
For those of you who still call her vulgar sexist names, and say she's dumb as a bag of rocks, watch as she masterfully makes her points within her five-minute time limit!

YouTube


This women is a force.

I have not seen anyone as good at holding the stage as her in politics except for TRump himself.

Damned is Donny lucky she cant run.

Now, if only some of her policies mature and she starts to realize the big picture can be the most important thing.
 
Prehaps. I don't know if that is true. She only recieved 17,000 in a district with 700,000 registered voters.



I expect her not to know lots of things working her first real job in a long time. However, to profess that she has knowledge that no one else doesn't is ridiculous. Is she smarter than she appears? Maybe. Politics is permeated with a desperate need to be right about everything. It doesn't hurt to just admit that there is some things you don't know.

She's far too arrogant for me to give her a chance.

I'm gonna leave this at "fair enough". I understand where you are coming from.
 
What’s wrong with either question?

What’s wrong with both is that they are rhetorical talking points from somebody who doesn’t understand the complexities involved and doesn’t want to.
 
What’s wrong with either question?

It's not industry practice to assume malicious intent when you are conducting a risk analysis. It's just... weird.

Also, if we're not going to prevent that equating turnstile jumpers with commercial/investment banking activities is a ridiculous comparison, she basically already answered her own question with the inquiry. If there was anything illegal going on, people would have been sent to jail.

They're not good questions. Better questions would have been, "What steps are you taking to ensure that this doesn't happen again?"
 
She's far too arrogant for me to give her a chance.

Arrogant!?

WTF are you talking about?

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I honestly don't know what you are talking about but I have found in life, in reference to arrogance, that many people find confident people with different ideas than their own arrogant when there is no arrogance present.
 
What’s wrong with both is that they are rhetorical talking points from somebody who doesn’t understand the complexities involved and doesn’t want to.

If you're talking about me, I work in Finance; worked in Finance during the Financial crisis; was a banker during the Financial Crisis. I understand the complexities involved.

Carry on.
 
Arrogant!?

WTF are you talking about?

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I honestly don't know what you are talking about but I have found in life, in reference to arrogance, that many people find confident people with different ideas than their own arrogant when there is no arrogance present.

Have you ever heard of the dunning kruger effect? People who exhitbit this trait tend to mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is.

That confidence exhitbited in AOC is merely her overestimating her abilities. Hence, why she is arrogant.
 
You'd be wrong, lol, but that appears to be a habit of yours. AOC's policy proposals are far too radical for me, and completely undoable both fiscally and socially at this point. Someday, perhaps, but not now.

I knew absolutely nothing about her except all the sexist, vulgar insults conservatives have been heaping on her since last year, when their rape fantasies and boob fetishes graced DP pages every day since last November, and beyond.

First time I heard her speak was in her capacity as a member of the House Judiciary Committee, during Micheal Cohen's testimony. Contrary to most of her colleagues on both sides of the aisle, she spent her five minutes with expertly-prepared questions, the answers to which opened a previously unknown area for committee investigation and insight, along with soliciting answers to "what, where, why, when, and who else should be talk to?"

That's nice, but what has she done for anyone recently?

All in five freaking minutes in a completely efficient, professional, non-political manner, sans sarcasm, blow-harderly, blame-mongering or self-aggrandizing puffery. I found it refreshing for a politician, even a baby one, and have since discovered that she continues to perform her congressional duties in the same no-nonsense manner, and is always impeccably prepared (or was for the instances I've seen).

She wasn't this time.

Now learn how to make an argument by actually watching/reading what others have posted without blindly engaging in dismissive "propoganda" claims.

I said the video was propaganda.

P.S. I'm a registered republican, not a partisan mouthpiece. I don't have to read daily talking points to know what I think. It's fun; try it sometime! :)

This is not relevant to me.
 
...That confidence exhitbited in AOC is merely her overestimating her abilities. Hence, why she is arrogant.

I know someone who exhibits this trait to such an extreme, his rating is off the kruger chart. :2razz:

The tax cheat in the WH...
 
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