ANTIFA supporter slaps 15 year old Trump supporter at NH polling station

[Phys251]

Don't forget the guy who rammed his vehicle through a tent of Trump supporters or the guy who tried to assassinate a bunch of Republican congressmen at a softball game (good thing there was armed security there).

But yeah...keep making excuses.

Was wondering when someone would play the whataboutism card! :lol:

 

[Fishking]

Was wondering when someone would play the whataboutism card! :lol:

Wow...what a moronic post. It's not whataboutism. This thread is about violent leftists and so were my examples. No deflection (<--that's the real word that grown adults use) going on here. Got anything else dumb to add?

 

[Phys251]

Wow...what a moronic post. It's not whataboutism. This thread is about violent leftists and so were my examples. No deflection (<--that's the real word that grown adults use) going on here. Got anything else dumb to add?

:lamo

Antifa are anarchists, not liberals, as has been explained many times around here. Are you people STILL pulling that right-wing talking point out of your ass?

 

[Felis Leo]

This is more deflection. You don't get credit for stating the obvious, particularly when it's obvious that your are doing so in order to deflect attention away from questions about you. Of course, the National Socialist Movement was (and still is) a fascist movement...but that's irrelevant to this discussion. The issue here is YOUR silence EVERY time an act of white supremacist/nationalist violence makes the news (and this board), which stands in stark contrast to your emphasis on the much less frequent (almost non-existent), and always less severe actions of a tiny group/movement like Antifa.

You know, ultmd, you could have just said "I think you are an implicit Nazi supporter, Felis Leo." It certainly would have saved me the time reading through your vituperative personal attack, and certainly saved you the time writing it.

With that in mind, I will say this: I despise Nazis, white supremacists, fascists, and the "Alt Right." I hope each and every one of them die from rapidly-metastasizing testicular cancer preferably behind bars. And yes, their views are worse than those of AntiFa, or Communists, anarchists or Islamists. But if you need me to make that throat-clearing every time some discussion is made with regard to AntiFa, Islamic terrorism in the United States, Black Hebrew Israelites, or any other violent criminal group that has not yet reached the level of lethal violence of white terrorists, I shall not do so. First, because it is irrelevant, unless the discussion revolves around which terrorist organization(s) have the biggest kill-count/most comparatively horrible extremist ideology. Second, because I doubt anything I could say or do would assuage your rather low opinion of me or other conservatives.

I do not try to go out of my way to be unctuous and ingratiate myself to others, certainly not to those who hold me in contempt. Good night.

 

[Fishking]

:lamo

Antifa are anarchists, not liberals, as has been explained many times around here. Are you people STILL pulling that right-wing talking point out of your ass?

Antifa are liberals. Sorry that upsets you. Wanna bet which candidate they are most likely voting for? You can call it a talking point but it's just reality that you're struggling against.

 

[Phys251]

Antifa are liberals.

That's a common saying by Antifa.

Now. What was it you were lying about this time? Some tripe about how Antifa are liberals? :lol:

 

[Felis Leo]

Antifa are liberals. Sorry that upsets you. Wanna bet which candidate they are most likely voting for? You can call it a talking point but it's just reality that you're struggling against.

By what definition, Fishking? Antifa are clearly on the political left, but then, so are Stalinists and Trotskyists. I fail to see how they are "Liberal" under any definition of the word.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Well I didn't expect reality, and did expect a wild warped rant...you never disappoint.

Ok, now you have to post proof Baker knew and did nothing, not even the democrat AG claims that... :roll:

No one marched anywhere, not even on the rabid right talk radio...

Prove the timeline on bringing the registry up to date.

AGAIN, the driver who killed the 7 people would still be able to drive even if he had his license revoked! He could still drive!:2wave:

Revoking a license doesn't instantly render all forms of transportation inoperative. Only being locked up is 100% certain to stop the driver from operating a motor vehicle. The law doesn't demand that, so you can't blame Baker.

But of course you will....

Now do you hold tRump to the same level of responsibility for all his agencies???

Can you address the first rant you brought in here??? The whine about red flag laws... you do remember your bringing that stinking pile in here???

You actually presenting some facts and not wild rants would be a pleasant change, you actually addressing questions about the topic YOU brought in would be a surprise. But I ain't gonna hold my breath... eace

Good god man this is common knowledge here in MA. There was even a large protest about it. Inform yourself. I don't do facebook level "it didn't happen" types. Try google, I'm not your tutor unless you pay me.

 

[notquiteright]

Good god man this is common knowledge here in MA. There was even a large protest about it. Inform yourself. I don't do facebook level "it didn't happen" types. Try google, I'm not your tutor unless you pay me.

You would be a piss poor tutor. You lack basic conversational skills, every 'fact' you have attempted to blow by in here has been shown to be a half truth as best- an outright lie most the time.... :doh

Your rabid right talk radio 'sources' lack anything close to common knowledge and absolutely no common sense... :roll:

You have never answered a question put to you. Insist your lies are fact, and claim your lies are common knowledge.

How many citizens have had their 'guns' taken under the red flag law?

How long does the red flag seizure last?

Is there a quick appeal process?

Who can request a red flag intervention?

FACT- red flag interventions are EXTREMELY rare, even in a 'librul' state.

FACT- Baker is a VERY popular Governor which means thousands of Republicans voted for him, not just bad ol' libruls.

FACT- Revoking the DUI driver's license wouldn't have stopped the driver from killing in NH.

You do little more than parrot the rabid right talk radio sewage with not a thing to back any of it up but vague 'common knowledge' no one else seems to know (not even rabid right supporters)

Epic fail pretty much from start to finish.... eace

 

[AlphaOmega]

You would be a piss poor tutor. You lack basic conversational skills, every 'fact' you have attempted to blow by in here has been shown to be a half truth as best- an outright lie most the time.... :doh

Your rabid right talk radio 'sources' lack anything close to common knowledge and absolutely no common sense... :roll:

You have never answered a question put to you. Insist your lies are fact, and claim your lies are common knowledge.

How many citizens have had their 'guns' taken under the red flag law?

How long does the red flag seizure last?

Is there a quick appeal process?

Who can request a red flag intervention?

FACT- red flag interventions are EXTREMELY rare, even in a 'librul' state.

FACT- Baker is a VERY popular Governor which means thousands of Republicans voted for him, not just bad ol' libruls.

FACT- Revoking the DUI driver's license wouldn't have stopped the driver from killing in NH.

You do little more than parrot the rabid right talk radio sewage with not a thing to back any of it up but vague 'common knowledge' no one else seems to know (not even rabid right supporters)

Epic fail pretty much from start to finish.... eace

hahahhahahhaha....so taking away a drivers license wont stop a guy from driving but more gun control will help stop gun violence....hahahhaaha. A poor student always blames the teacher.

 

[ultmd]

You know, ultmd, you could have just said "I think you are an implicit Nazi supporter, Felis Leo." It certainly would have saved me the time reading through your vituperative personal attack, and certainly saved you the time writing it.

Well, here's the thing, Felis. I think I do a fairly decent job of stating my arguments clearly. If I wanted to call you a Nazi supporter, I would have done that. Instead, I noted (correctly) that you and other conservatives simply NEVER appear in threads to condemn the news of more white supremacist/nationalist violence in this country, which we KNOW is MUCH more prevalent in this country. Your silence implies neither support, nor complicity. Not necessarily. But it does imply a measure of indifference, at the very least...or even cowardice among conservatives and republicans who COULD have an effect on what's going on in their party (and within the modern conservative movement).

In your case, you are a conservative I have noticed who clearly THINKS about things. You may be a bit of an ideologue, but are certainly no fool. However, you're also a conservative who NEVER speaks out in threads against racism or bigotry toward minorities...and who chimes in ONLY on threads like this one about Antifa. I think we both know ANTIFA is not a big deal in this country, and there is no serious threat of "anti-white" terrorism or violence in this country that even remotely compares to the white nationalist/supremacist/etc threat against minorities, either. If, however, ever there is a groundswell of "left wing" or black/brown terrorism or violence against white people...or against conservative Christians...or (whatever), I'll be first here to condemn it without equivocation and without any "whataboutism" or deflection. But the FACT is that the vast majority of violence extremism in this country comes from white nationalist/white supremacist/neo-nazi/sovereign citizen/conservative evangelical wing of the CONSERVATIVE movement. And that's not a "small wing", either. It's large, and has become mainstreamed. ANTIFA is tiny and almost irrelevant...and is certainly not embraced or mainstreamed within Democratic Party circles of influence.

With that in mind, I will say this: I despise Nazis, white supremacists, fascists, and the "Alt Right." I hope each and every one of them die from rapidly-metastasizing testicular cancer preferably behind bars. And yes, their views are worse than those of AntiFa, or Communists, anarchists or Islamists.

Well, dang...that about covers it. Heck, even I wouldn't wish "rapidly metastasizing cancer" on anyone. But again, I think you misunderstood my point from earlier.

But if you need me to make that throat-clearing every time some discussion is made with regard to AntiFa, Islamic terrorism in the United States, Black Hebrew Israelites, or any other violent criminal group that has not yet reached the level of lethal violence of white terrorists, I shall not do so.

Nope. That's not my expectation, at all. My HOPE is to be able to engage in HONEST debate of ideas with conservatives who have some integrity and are willing to deal in FACTS rather than just opinions. That's a bit lacking on this board, unfortunately.

First, because it is irrelevant... Second, because I doubt anything I could say or do would assuage your rather low opinion of me or other conservatives.

Well, you are wrong about me, there. I do NOT have a low opinion of Conservatism. There is nothing inherently wrong with conservatism as a political ideology. Heck, I used to be one. Neither do I believe "Conservative" equates with "bigot" , or "racist", or "ignorant",etc. Those are personal choices. So, I do have a "low opinion" of people who HIDE behind "conservatism" to rationalize bigotry, racism, anti-intellectualism/anti-science, discrimination and white privilege. It shouldn't be that hard to separate the former (i.e. standard conservative principles and philosophies)....from the ignorance and the hypocrisy of the latter. Actually, let me be more frank about that: it's NOT that difficult, at all. Again, it's a choice made by some people. And, btw, for self-described Christians, that is even more important.

I do not try to go out of my way to be unctuous and ingratiate myself to others, certainly not to those who hold me in contempt. Good night.

LOL, well there's not need for flattery. I'm appealing to your sense of intellectual integrity. I can tell you have it. Let's be honest and fair, and debate REAL things. That doesn't require you to become a liberal. Just an honest and fair conservative who can see what is happening right now in this country.

 

[notquiteright]

hahahhahahhaha....so taking away a drivers license wont stop a guy from driving but more gun control will help stop gun violence....hahahhaaha. A poor student always blames the teacher.

Poor comparison (and I do note you refuse to answer any of my questions- some 'teacher' :roll: )

Taking away access to a vehicle WILL stop the driver just like taking away access to firearms WILL stop 'gun' violence. Both are near impossible to be 100% effective but perfection should never get in the way of good enough.

Your piss poor comparison with a driver's license would be taking away a Concealed Carry Permit only. Leave the vehicle or the firearm available and you really don't change much.

But where is your proof Baker stopped the revocation, that he was buddies with the driver, that the driver worked for him, donated to his campaign- yanno stuff that appears to influence The Don.

Fact is you have ZERO facts, just rabid right wingnut radio sewage... :doh

Your downward spiral into absurdity is sad... stop digging... eace

 

[AlphaOmega]

Poor comparison (and I do note you refuse to answer any of my questions- some 'teacher' :roll: )

Taking away access to a vehicle WILL stop the driver just like taking away access to firearms WILL stop 'gun' violence. Both are near impossible to be 100% effective but perfection should never get in the way of good enough.

Your piss poor comparison with a driver's license would be taking away a Concealed Carry Permit only. Leave the vehicle or the firearm available and you really don't change much.

But where is your proof Baker stopped the revocation, that he was buddies with the driver, that the driver worked for him, donated to his campaign- yanno stuff that appears to influence The Don.

Fact is you have ZERO facts, just rabid right wingnut radio sewage... :doh

Your downward spiral into absurdity is sad... stop digging... eace

hahah whenever the rabid dems say its not a good comparison...it means it was bang on.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Poor comparison (and I do note you refuse to answer any of my questions- some 'teacher' :roll: )

Taking away access to a vehicle WILL stop the driver just like taking away access to firearms WILL stop 'gun' violence. Both are near impossible to be 100% effective but perfection should never get in the way of good enough.

Your piss poor comparison with a driver's license would be taking away a Concealed Carry Permit only. Leave the vehicle or the firearm available and you really don't change much.

But where is your proof Baker stopped the revocation, that he was buddies with the driver, that the driver worked for him, donated to his campaign- yanno stuff that appears to influence The Don.

Fact is you have ZERO facts, just rabid right wingnut radio sewage... :doh

Your downward spiral into absurdity is sad... stop digging... eace

***yawn***
Top Baker aide told RMV employees not to put critical details in writing – Boston Herald

 

[Mashmont]

That's a common saying by Antifa.

Now. What was it you were lying about this time? Some tripe about how Antifa are liberals? :lol:

Antifa are communists. That's liberalism on steroids. They are ultra-extreme leftwingers. Note the hammer and sickle.

 

[notquiteright]

***yawn***
Top Baker aide told RMV employees not to put critical details in writing – Boston Herald

More like a watery rabid right wing fart... :roll:

This proves nothing, I asked if Baker stopped the revocation, knew the driver, received campaign contributions, oh and throw in posed for pictures with the guy.

This is about the computer problems in the reporting system, not about what Baker knew when.

Now the meetings could be handled like tRump did with his Putin meeting- allowed absolutely no notes or witnesses, but most likely there will be transcripts and notes.

But again you whined about Baker is responsible for the deaths of 7 in NH. You took days to come up with that... :doh

I've changed my mind, keep digging, it is sadly amusing... eace

 

[AlphaOmega]

More like a watery rabid right wing fart... :roll:

This proves nothing, I asked if Baker stopped the revocation, knew the driver, received campaign contributions, oh and throw in posed for pictures with the guy.

This is about the computer problems in the reporting system, not about what Baker knew when.

Now the meetings could be handled like tRump did with his Putin meeting- allowed absolutely no notes or witnesses, but most likely there will be transcripts and notes.

But again you whined about Baker is responsible for the deaths of 7 in NH. You took days to come up with that... :doh

I've changed my mind, keep digging, it is sadly amusing... eace

hahahha...denial...right on cue. I have more. I just want to drag you through this nice and slow.

 

[danielpalos]

How lovely.... This is another incident that's sure to be ignored by the national media.

Here's the story from CBS Boston:
Man Accused Of Slapping Teen Trump Supporter In New Hampshire – CBS Boston

Here's the story that found out he was an ANTIFA supporter:
EXCLUSIVE: Man who assaulted pro-Trump teen is an antifa supporter - The Post Millennial

Anyone wanna bet who the man voted for just before he attacked the teenage boy? I'd bet he was feeling the burn.

.

A lousy argument? Men should have arguments.

 

[notquiteright]

hahahha...denial...right on cue. I have more. I just want to drag you through this nice and slow.

More like you want to deflect from your epic fail whining about 'gun' grabbers and how unpopular Baker is....

You ran through half a dozens fails and at the end of the line trying to claim Baker is responsible for 7 dead (though if the driver was 'caught' it would only have been a revoked license.) You try going back to your ignorant comparison of red flag laws are the same as revoking a license.

But you continue to crawl through the sewer and like Charlie Sheen keep saying your winning... :roll:

 

[Logician Man]

Antifa are communists. That's liberalism on steroids. They are ultra-extreme leftwingers. Note the hammer and sickle.

Link to support your positive claim Antifa are communists. No 'credible' link = positive claim being summarily dismissed due to inability to meet burden of proof.

 

[Mashmont]

Link to support your positive claim Antifa are communists. No 'credible' link = positive claim being summarily dismissed due to inability to meet burden of proof.

Did you see the hammer and sickle in their linked message? Symbol of Communism. You may apologize. Let's see if you'll have the decency to do so.

 

[Logician Man]

Did you see the hammer and sickle in their linked message? Symbol of Communism. You may apologize. Let's see if you'll have the decency to do so.

Did you see the message on the link ? If so, do you understand what that message is conveying ? If yes, explain what that message from Antifa to liberals is. Can you actually process all of that and give us a coherent summary ? Thanks in advance.

 

[Hypothetical]

White supremacists murder people. They're responsible for thousands or millions of deaths. Antifa slaps people.

And we're supposed to be worried about Antifa. And we know the OP never started a thread condemning racist violence.

Figure it out.

we're supposed to be worried about both. has anyone ever called for an honest to god school shooter or violent white supremacist to NOT be punished?

 

[Mashmont]

Did you see the message on the link ? If so, do you understand what that message is conveying ? If yes, explain what that message from Antifa to liberals is. Can you actually process all of that and give us a coherent summary ? Thanks in advance.

Yeah. Antifa was essentially saying liberalism was too mild for them. Still awaiting your apology after I proved Antifa was a communist organization. Will you have the decency? Let's see.

 

[ecofarm]

we're supposed to be worried about both.

No. We're supposed to be worried about a disgusting group of people that have murdered their way through history and have been arguably the greatest scourge upon this country, the Earth and mankind.

Not the boogeyman those people point at.