ANTIFA supporter slaps 15 year old Trump supporter at NH polling station

[cabse5]

Who said Obama didn't provide proof of natural born citizenship to the Feds vetting him to run for president? To register a presidential ticket you need to provide to the Federal Election Committee proof that you are eligible to run. You need to prove that you are a natural born citizen, that you reside in the United States for more than 14 years, and that you are older than 35, all according to the US Constitution.

You are mixing up things. Obama refused to provide TO THE PUBLIC a copy of his birth certificate because he said it was discriminatory to ask him for that when no member of the public ever asked a white president to do that. Obama didn't want to dignify the conspiracy theory. At one point he got fed up with the distraction, changed his mind, and provided it to the public (and it was a legitimate document).

But not for a moment think that Obama failed to provide his credentials to the Federal Election Committee, otherwise he would NOT have been allowed to run. Gee!!!

On a side note when Trump decided to run for president, the IRS vetted Trump's tax documents so why are dems demanding Trump's tax documents, now?

 

[apdst]

And yet among law-enforcement agencies, only rightwing groups are considered a bigger terrorist threat in this country than Islamic terrorists.

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

And still, not one Leftists has condemned this attacked. :lamo

 

[Condor060]

I'm sure Antifa is terrified of NC's little nazi boys.

Nope, The only Nazi's bitches we know about in NC are Antifa and we won't put up with them attacking people here.

But if you think you have the balls to come to NC and call people here Nazi's, you go right ahead.
Let me know how that works out for ya.

 

[ataraxia]

And still, not one Leftists has condemned this attacked. :lamo

No, I condemn it. It's pretty bad. There are kooky people everywhere.

 

[apdst]

No, I condemn it. It's pretty bad. There are kooky people everywhere.

Now that you got called out. :lamo

 

[GreatNews2night]

There are some problems with the democrat narrative. First, if the certificate was where it was supposed to be in the first place then why did it take the Obama team months to find and produce it? Why also did no news organization or public advocacy group find the certificate earlier among public records? Are those records commonly sealed from investigative reporters and government officials?

Also, American law enforcement officers have published the facts they have found which question the validity of the certificate, prompting calls for forensics examiners to examine the certificate and verify its authenticity. There should be no opposition to having the certificate authenticated by forensics experts, unless there is some fear on the part of those protecting the document from examination that such a forensics examination of the document may turn up troubling details already exposed by the law enforcement officers who have raised questions about its authenticity.

Law enforcement officers??? LOL, are you talking about the racist nutjob who was a sheriff somewhere and one of the main proponents of the Birthers conspiracy theory? Your LEOs are just racist cuckoo dumb morons.

Thanks, but no, thanks. Somehow I'll trust better the REPUBLICAN governor of the Great State of Hawaii.

Again, you keep mixing it up. Obama took time to show it to the PUBLIC, not to the Federal Election Committee. Obama was properly vetted and certified by the Committee as a bona fide US citizen eligible to run for president. He took his time showing the birth certificate to the PUBLIC, not to the electoral authorities, because, again, he didn't want to dignify this racist conspiracy theory since no white president or candidate has ever been harassed like this by the PUBLIC (well, certain idiotic members of the public).

Not to forget the small detail of, so what and for what? Even if he weren't born in the United States (he was), he'd still be a legitimately born US citizen by the virtue of his mother being a US citizen. So what exactly did he have to fear or gain? It was clearly that he was eligible to run, he ran, and won.

Why am I discussing this idiocy here?

Look, you want to be a freaking birther, be my guest. I won't dignify YOU with answers on this moronic CT (one that even Trump has accepted that it was debunked), anymore. Have a nice day.

 

[ecofarm]

Nope, The only Nazi's bitches we know about in NC are Antifa

Of course.

 

[GreatNews2night]

On a side note when Trump decided to run for president, the IRS vetted Trump's tax documents so why are dems demanding Trump's tax documents, now?

Just to see what he is hiding. All other presidents in the last 40 years have shown theirs.

This is not the same situation.

Birth certificates: no president has ever been asked by the public for theirs, so, Obama didn't want to dignify the racist request.
Tax records: all presidents in modern history have shown theirs, so it's natural to want Trump to do the same.

It's not a double standard. Both cases would be continuing tradition.

And the IRS vetting his taxes doesn't mean that his taxes don't have politically weak points that are not illegal.

Say, Trump's taxes show legal investments in Russia. Nothing for the IRS to flag, but politically he wouldn't want to have the public knowing about that. Say, Trump's taxes show that he is a lot less rich than he boasts about, and his narcissism would want to prevent the public from knowing that.

Whatever the reason is, Trump broke with tradition by not showing his taxes.
Obama broke with no tradition by not showing his birth certificate (and actually after getting fed up with the distraction, he did show it, which is a first).

The American people have a legitimate public interest in knowing about a president's finances, to gauge undue influence
The American people have an interest in the Federal Election Committee verifying a candidate's constitutional eligibility, which was done for Obama, but beyond that, doesn't have a compelling need to see the actual birth certificate, especially when no other president was ever harassed this way.

Anyway, I still replied because this post had the tax angle, but again, I'm no longer interested in debating the ridiculous Birther theory. Over and out.

 

[cabse5]

Just to see what he is hiding. All other presidents in the last 40 years have shown theirs.

This is not the same situation.

Birth certificates: no president has ever been asked by the public for theirs, so, Obama didn't want to dignify the racist request.
Tax records: all presidents in modern history have shown theirs, so it's natural to want Trump to do the same.

It's not a double standard. Both cases would be continuing tradition.

And the IRS vetting his taxes doesn't mean that his taxes don't have politically weak points that are not illegal.

Say, Trump's taxes show legal investments in Russia. Nothing for the IRS to flag, but politically he wouldn't want to have the public knowing about that. Say, Trump's taxes show that he is a lot less rich than he boasts about, and his narcissism would want to prevent the public from knowing that.

Whatever the reason is, Trump broke with tradition by not showing his taxes.
Obama broke with no tradition by not showing his birth certificate (and actually after getting fed up with the distraction, he did show it, which is a first).

The American people have a legitimate public interest in knowing about a president's finances, to gauge undue influence
The American people have an interest in the Federal Election Committee verifying a candidate's constitutional eligibility, which was done for Obama, but beyond that, doesn't have a compelling need to see the actual birth certificate, especially when no other president was ever harassed this way.

Anyway, I still replied because this post had the tax angle, but again, I'm no longer interested in debating the ridiculous Birther theory. Over and out.

Yes. The same situation. The IRS vetted Trump at least for the years in which Trump could've been 'under the spell' of Russians. Hawaii vetted Obama. Are you prejudiced against orange men?

 

[notquiteright]

Lol...I love how your TDS shines through. We are talking about a Ma Governor and you start spewing rabid right anti Trump BS.
There were 7 killed in NH due to Baker the Faker. I bet you are so uninformed you have no idea what went on here in Ma under Baker.

TDS seems to be a good way to describe those who blindly follow The Don...

all these posts with 100% opinion and zero facts, based on a nameless circle of friends and rabid right talk radio... :roll:

I asked repeatedly for you to bring facts instead of dribble...

YOU claimed your 'gun' rights were being taken away- have you been red flagged???

So provide some facts-

Who can ask for the red flag?

How long is the red flag?

Is there an appeal process for a red flag?

How many red flag confiscations have you had????

Based on your fact-less posts, rabid right conspiracy elections, running away from the red flag law YOU drug in here.....

I'd say you are clueless what is REALLY happening in your state... eace

 

[AlphaOmega]

TDS seems to be a good way to describe those who blindly follow The Don...

all these posts with 100% opinion and zero facts, based on a nameless circle of friends and rabid right talk radio... :roll:

I asked repeatedly for you to bring facts instead of dribble...

YOU claimed your 'gun' rights were being taken away- have you been red flagged???

So provide some facts-

Who can ask for the red flag?

How long is the red flag?

Is there an appeal process for a red flag?

How many red flag confiscations have you had????

Based on your fact-less posts, rabid right conspiracy elections, running away from the red flag law YOU drug in here.....

I'd say you are clueless what is REALLY happening in your state... eace

7 killed in NH...do you claim this is not true?

 

[notquiteright]

7 killed in NH...do you claim this is not true?

First admit you were cluelessly ranting about red flag laws.
Next admit Baker is an extremely popular politician and has bipartisan (just not extremist) support.
Third your echo chamber is extreme talk radio.
Fourth, you couldn't back your 'gun' grabber BS so you attack the governor...

Now how about a link or hint about your so far completely unfounded whine.... eace

 

[AlphaOmega]

First admit you were cluelessly ranting about red flag laws.
Next admit Baker is an extremely popular politician and has bipartisan (just not extremist) support.
Third your echo chamber is extreme talk radio.
Fourth, you couldn't back your 'gun' grabber BS so you attack the governor...

Now how about a link or hint about your so far completely unfounded whine.... eace

Answer the question about the 7 dead. Is it true or not? Stop dodging. you claimed what I said wasn't true. I'm going to dismantle your post item by item. We are starting with the 7 dead.

 

[Glitch]

First admit you were cluelessly ranting about red flag laws.
Next admit Baker is an extremely popular politician and has bipartisan (just not extremist) support.
Third your echo chamber is extreme talk radio.
Fourth, you couldn't back your 'gun' grabber BS so you attack the governor...

Now how about a link or hint about your so far completely unfounded whine.... eace

Whenever a progressive claims a Republican "is an extremely popular politician" what they really mean is the Republican is a flaming communist POS who supports fascism and violating the rights of Americans.

 

[notquiteright]

Answer the question about the 7 dead. Is it true or not? Stop dodging. you claimed what I said wasn't true. I'm going to dismantle your post item by item. We are starting with the 7 dead.

You're a fine one to call anyone a dodger, you'd rule the dodge ball court.... :roll:

I HAVE dismantled your posts repeatedly, you have repeatedly refused to answer questions about your initial whine- yur 'gun' rights bein' took by dem libruls.

So instead of discussing your whine you dodge away and instead attack a Republican who is very popular in his state, and only seems to upset the extremists.

The above is what I said wasn't true, quit squirming like a landed mudcat...

I have ZERO idea about what happened in NH... how that connects with Baker and what in THE HELL it has to do with red flag laws and 'libruls takin yur guns' in the Bay State... :doh

Now how about pretending I'm not one of the voices in your head and need a few details to be clued in on what your ranting about with 7 dead... eace

 

[notquiteright]

Whenever a progressive claims a Republican "is an extremely popular politician" what they really mean is the Republican is a flaming communist POS who supports fascism and violating the rights of Americans.

Your the second poster to try that weak ass crap in this thread. Try some new material... :3oops:

'I' didn't proclaim him anything- THE PEOPLE OF MASSACHUETTES have... :doh

Now I live in Okla-freakin-homa where the favorite brag of the rabid right (after a few adult beverages for courage) is "I'm right of Attila the Hun"

I get the rabid right rant- anyone not toeing the extremist line is a commie and violated the Constitution, the rights of 'honest' Americans, and unsuspecting sheep... :lol:

So tell us all why you think Baker is any of that, and don't be like the self proclaimed Omega- some details and examples would be a refreshing change... eace

 

[Glitch]

Your the second poster to try that weak ass crap in this thread. Try some new material... :3oops:

'I' didn't proclaim him anything- THE PEOPLE OF MASSACHUETTES have... :doh

Now I live in Okla-freakin-homa where the favorite brag of the rabid right (after a few adult beverages for courage) is "I'm right of Attila the Hun"

I get the rabid right rant- anyone not toeing the extremist line is a commie and violated the Constitution, the rights of 'honest' Americans, and unsuspecting sheep... :lol:

So tell us all why you think Baker is any of that, and don't be like the self proclaimed Omega- some details and examples would be a refreshing change... eace

I don't know diddly-squat about Gov. Baker, other than a self-proclaimed progressive who currently lives in Oklahoma can't stop gushing praise about how popular and wonderful the Republican Governor of Massachusetts was. If anything you said was even remotely true then Gov. Baker must be a truly vile POS fascist who seeks to violate the rights of every Massachusetts citizen.

 

[notquiteright]

I don't know diddly-squat about Gov. Baker, other than a self-proclaimed progressive who currently lives in Oklahoma can't stop gushing praise about how popular and wonderful the Republican Governor of Massachusetts was. If anything you said was even remotely true then Gov. Baker must be a truly vile POS fascist who seeks to violate the rights of every Massachusetts citizen.

I see you have an extremely low bar for emotions... gush???? :doh

I am not praising Baker, I'm refuting someone who claimed Baker was a joke and hated in the Bay State. He has been elected twice, means beat Democrats twice (to use the rabid right rant a self proclaimed progressive should HATE him...)

I see you too avoid debating facts instead fling poop and blow smoke. I'm sooooo surprised... :roll:

WHAT have I said that makes Baker anything like the wild eyed rant you use????

Seems to be a trend with some on the rabid right- refuse to debate facts but wants only to launch crazy personal attacks...

The Don must be pleased... eace

 

[ataraxia]

Now that you got called out. :lamo

OK. Ya got me.

So now are you ever going to apologize for the atrocities by the rightists?

 

[ultmd]

I am dealing with the subject at hand, which is AntiFa. Please, ask me what I think about Nazis, or start a thread about what conservatives think about Nazis, and I will happily opine.

Thanks, but I'm pretty sure I already know what most conservatives think about Nazis...and doesn't reflect well upon them. If I wanted to ask you about Nazis, I would have done so. What I DID ask you, however, was why you have never expressed any sense of outrage about the hundreds and thousands of domestic terrorist incidents charged to white supremacist/white nationalist types in this country. You've chosen to dodge that question, and I think we both know what, don't we?

Yes. Some liberals have tut-tutted, made excuses for, or outright cheered

"Some", huh? Yes I suppose "some" liberals have done that. On the other hand, we should also say that MANY, MANY Conservatives "have tut-tutted, made excuses for, or outright cheered" the EXPONENTIALLY more prevalent acts of white supremacist/nationalist terrorism/violence. We both know this, don't we? If you don't know it, you're probably part of the problem, Felis Leo.

...a violent organization made up of Communists and Anarchists who physically assault people, destroy property and commit mayhem both against racists and non-racists who are caught in the fray. The fact that they have not killed anyone is certainly a blessing.

Yes, that is as big a blessing as actual Antifa attacks are a rarity. Too bad the same cannot be said about all of the white nationalist/supremacist violence incited by the Right, huh? White supremacist/nationalist types kill hundreds of Americans every year. And yet...not a peep from people like you about it. Questions about that REALITY remain avoided and unaddressed by conservatives like you, who are also the very conservatives who whine and complain when reasonable people question their motives. You people can't hype up every isolated, extremely rare instance of "leftwing" terrorism/racism/etc....while COMPLETELY ignoring or refusing to acknowledge the pervasive acts of violence of right wing bigots/racists/nationalists/etc in our society...and then have the nerve to whine, incessantly, about being mislabeled or perceived as bigots/racists, or at the very least, apologists for bigotry and racism.

Sorry, but you good folk just can't have it both ways.

First, I have not seen very many notable conservatives make excuses for white supremacists who murder, disenfranchise or terrorize minorities.

This response absolutely reeks of hypocrisy. Why would you inject a qualifier like "very many notable" (conservatives) into the equation? That's not what I said...because that's not what YOU originally stated when you accused "Democrats and liberals" of "making excuses for Antifa", remember? You didn't say that "some notable Democrats and liberals make excuses for Antifa". You attributed that to all Democrats and liberals in your original remarks. And my response was to point out that conservatives and republicans make excuses for White Supremacy and White Nationalism...and the FACT that Antifa is a FRACTION of the threat to the life and health of Americans as compared to that of White Nationalism/Supremacy. I then asked you to explain yourself. So far you've only deflected and dissembled.

What does that have to do with Antifa?

It "has to do" with YOU, specifically, your hypocrisy and lack of credibility on issues related to racism, political extremism and domestic terrorism. You're deflecting again, and I think you know that. The issue I raised is/was perfectly clear. Conservatives like you who excuse, ignore and/or remain silent about the LONG-STANDING and COMMON violence of white nationalists/supremacists against other Americans, come across as snowflakes and hypocrites when they attempt to highlight a story like this one about Antifa.

Saying that an organization that goes around physically assaulting people (not nearly all of whom are racists I might add) is not as evil as the National Socialist movement is obvious.

This is more deflection. You don't get credit for stating the obvious, particularly when it's obvious that your are doing so in order to deflect attention away from questions about you. Of course, the National Socialist Movement was (and still is) a fascist movement...but that's irrelevant to this discussion. The issue here is YOUR silence EVERY time an act of white supremacist/nationalist violence makes the news (and this board), which stands in stark contrast to your emphasis on the much less frequent (almost non-existent), and always less severe actions of a tiny group/movement like Antifa.

 

[ultmd]

And, by that same logic, Harvey Weinstein is not as evil as Ted Bundy. That does not mean criticism of Harvey Weinstein is misplaced simply because rapists are not as evil as rapist serial killers.

Well, in that analogy, you're the guy who remained silent about the heinous crimes of Bundy (a right winger), but jumps at the chance to brand the transgressions and abuses of the liberal Weinstein as a reflection of "the left". Whether, or not, you are a bigot in your heart, or racist in your daily life is virtually unknowable. What is indisputable, however, is the FACT that there is virtually NO ONE on this board who self-identifies as a conservative, who condemns the every day acts of bigotry and racism that are reported in the news (and posted here for discussion). THAT speaks volumes, especially when you guys jump up, and jump on, a tiny fringe group like Antifa for an incident like this one.

"You all"? Forgive me, but it does not sound like you go far out of your way to look for condemnation and assume that all conservatives do not care or silently approve of racist terror.

I neither stated, nor implied, "all conservatives". That would be silly. I'm referring specifically to right wing conservatives and Trump acolytes. Not all conservatives remain silent in the face of white supremacy and/or domestic terrorism (75% of which is of white supremacist/nationalist origin). Certainly, many righties do. But not all. That said, if you'd like to debate or dispute what you see as unwarranted "condemnations"...on the merits...please be specific. I will always defend my arguments substantively. If not, I'll recant them. That's what honest political debate is supposed to be about.

I see liberals who have cheered or merely tut-tutted Antifa.

How about you TRY to be fair, huh? When challenged about conservatives, you responded by saying you haven't seen any "notable conservatives"...but when judging liberals, your standard is much more lenient. How convenient for you, huh? But here's a suggestion: Hold liberals to the same standard you have for conservatives. Can you list any "notable liberals" who have "cheered" Antifa, or not?

But I have seen a lot more liberals here condemn them. Likewise, I and plenty of conservatives here and in waking life condemn Nazis, White Supremacists and White Nationalists.

Come on, now. We see "PLENTY" of conservatives here on this board who are (at the very least) sympathetic to white supremacy, white nationalism and other alt-right ideologies. We do NOT see a lot of conservatives here who condemn those events when they are posted here on this board for discussion. And let's also be clear, there is virtually nothing like that (i.e. anti-white bigotry, or promotion of racism against whites) from the so-called "left" on this board (or in national politics, as a whole).

 

[notquiteright]

Answer the question about the 7 dead. Is it true or not? Stop dodging. you claimed what I said wasn't true. I'm going to dismantle your post item by item. We are starting with the 7 dead.

Get out your monkey wrench and do your best to dismantle...

I found your whine about 'the 7 dead'. It is for sure a tragedy that should have been avoided but what could have been done to avoid it? A Mass resident got arrested for DUI in Conn and the report that would suspend/revoke the license was never processed like it should have been. The driver then hit and killed 7 motorcycle riders in New Hampshire. Truly sad.

But please tell me how Baker was responsible, did he order the arrest report buried? Did the driver work for Baker? Lobby for him overseas? Try and profit from knowing Baker to gain money from other countries?

What is the connection?

Now the article I found quotes Mass AG Healy blaming the Baker ADMINISTRATION for not processing the out of state arrest records. (I can't blame her a bit) What makes this impossible to make-up is the AG is a DEMOCRAT!!! Imagine you siding with a Democrat in this :shock:

Would have revoking the driver license have stopped the driver? How many times has the list of charges on the local news included 'driving under suspension/revocation of license' I doubt it would have changed things at all.

You have jumped from the original rant about 'gun' rights to a deep in the bowels of state government failure in order to attack a Republican you don't think is rabid enough, but side with a Democrat who most likely fancies a run at the office herself!!!! :doh

Oh this is too much.... eace

 

[AlphaOmega]

You're a fine one to call anyone a dodger, you'd rule the dodge ball court.... :roll:

I HAVE dismantled your posts repeatedly, you have repeatedly refused to answer questions about your initial whine- yur 'gun' rights bein' took by dem libruls.

So instead of discussing your whine you dodge away and instead attack a Republican who is very popular in his state, and only seems to upset the extremists.

The above is what I said wasn't true, quit squirming like a landed mudcat...

I have ZERO idea about what happened in NH... how that connects with Baker and what in THE HELL it has to do with red flag laws and 'libruls takin yur guns' in the Bay State... :doh

Now how about pretending I'm not one of the voices in your head and need a few details to be clued in on what your ranting about with 7 dead... eace

You have zero idea what happened in NH and have no idea what Baker has to do with it. Nuff said. Thanks for making my point.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Get out your monkey wrench and do your best to dismantle...

I found your whine about 'the 7 dead'. It is for sure a tragedy that should have been avoided but what could have been done to avoid it? A Mass resident got arrested for DUI in Conn and the report that would suspend/revoke the license was never processed like it should have been. The driver then hit and killed 7 motorcycle riders in New Hampshire. Truly sad.

But please tell me how Baker was responsible, did he order the arrest report buried? Did the driver work for Baker? Lobby for him overseas? Try and profit from knowing Baker to gain money from other countries?

What is the connection?

Now the article I found quotes Mass AG Healy blaming the Baker ADMINISTRATION for not processing the out of state arrest records. (I can't blame her a bit) What makes this impossible to make-up is the AG is a DEMOCRAT!!! Imagine you siding with a Democrat in this :shock:

Would have revoking the driver license have stopped the driver? How many times has the list of charges on the local news included 'driving under suspension/revocation of license' I doubt it would have changed things at all.

You have jumped from the original rant about 'gun' rights to a deep in the bowels of state government failure in order to attack a Republican you don't think is rabid enough, but side with a Democrat who most likely fancies a run at the office herself!!!! :doh

Oh this is too much.... eace

He was aware of the situation...did nothing before...during...and after. Once they realized the public was looking for answers and was marching on Beacon Hill...the registry suddenly did what they previously claimed was months of work in under 48 hrs. Had Baker done his ****ing job these people would still be alive. It's ok for you though right? You didn't know anyone involved. Typical lefty brain damage thinking.

 

[notquiteright]

He was aware of the situation...did nothing before...during...and after. Once they realized the public was looking for answers and was marching on Beacon Hill...the registry suddenly did what they previously claimed was months of work in under 48 hrs. Had Baker done his ****ing job these people would still be alive. It's ok for you though right? You didn't know anyone involved. Typical lefty brain damage thinking.

Well I didn't expect reality, and did expect a wild warped rant...you never disappoint.

Ok, now you have to post proof Baker knew and did nothing, not even the democrat AG claims that... :roll:

No one marched anywhere, not even on the rabid right talk radio...

Prove the timeline on bringing the registry up to date.

AGAIN, the driver who killed the 7 people would still be able to drive even if he had his license revoked! He could still drive!:2wave:

Revoking a license doesn't instantly render all forms of transportation inoperative. Only being locked up is 100% certain to stop the driver from operating a motor vehicle. The law doesn't demand that, so you can't blame Baker.

But of course you will....

Now do you hold tRump to the same level of responsibility for all his agencies???

Can you address the first rant you brought in here??? The whine about red flag laws... you do remember your bringing that stinking pile in here???

You actually presenting some facts and not wild rants would be a pleasant change, you actually addressing questions about the topic YOU brought in would be a surprise. But I ain't gonna hold my breath... eace