Anti-choice propaganda about parenting

[JayDubya]

Uh, no. It's you making up words again. :roll:

Funny, I made up neither the word nor the prefix, nor did I make you declare your noxious belief that abortion was not even just acceptable but a moral good.

Words mean things. :shrug:

 

[calamity]

Funny, I made up neither the word nor the prefix, nor did I make you declare your noxious belief that abortion was not even just acceptable but a moral good.

Words mean things. :shrug:

Compared to letting born children starve and die of treatable illness like you advocate doing, damn right, abortion is good

 

[JayDubya]

Compared to letting born children starve and die of treatable illness like you advocate doing

Do you ever stop lying, calamity?

 

[calamity]

Do you ever stop lying, calamity?

Do you ever stop advocating for born children to starve and die of treatable illness while pretending you do not?

 

[joG]

Compared to letting born children starve and die of treatable illness like you advocate doing, damn right, abortion is good

You do know, don't you, that almost every mass killing is justified along those lines?

 

[calamity]

You do know, don't you, that almost every mass killing is justified along those lines?

I just love it when people care more about fetuses than born children. It shows their true colors perfectly.

 

[FutureIncoming]

The cartoonish pro-[slavery] nonsense continues unabated. There can be no debate in the face of such wanton disregard for science, rationality, and the meaning of English words. Effectively, they cannot speak in any language but their own made-up words.

TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF, AGAIN, I SEE. Science is on my side, not yours, simply because you cherry-pick your scientific data, and I access the Big Picture. Which is why you likely ignore the likelihood that a 5th-grader probably knows about "cloning", and the fact that ANY cell that has complete/nondefective human DNA has the potential to yield a whole human body. That makes most of the human cells in your body equivalent to a zygote, so far as "potential" is concerned. Since you have maybe 30-odd trillion such cells, AND since you claim the zygote qualifies as a person, THEREFORE you should be petitioning the Govt. to allow you to cast 30 trillion votes in each election, right?

 

[JayDubya]

Do you ever stop advocating for born children to starve and die of treatable illness while pretending you do not?

When you get a grip on reality and / or stop trolling, let me know.

This is blatant dishonesty on your part, you should know better, and shame on you.

 

[JayDubya]

Science is on my side, not yours

:lamo

Y'ok, chuckles.

Cloning is just an alternate means to create a new organism. That organism would have the same natural rights as any other human created the traditional way.

:yawn:

 

[calamity]

When you get a grip on reality and / or stop trolling, let me know.

This is blatant dishonesty on your part, you should know better, and shame on you.

Nope. It's a dead-on accurate description of your position.

 

[FutureIncoming]

You do know, don't you, that almost every mass killing is justified along those lines?

NOT QUITE; All such killings involved LYING about the nature of "persons". Today, though, we have Objectively Verifiable Data about persons --why else would some scientists claim that dolphins qualify? The Fact Is, no unborn human can pass even **one** of the tests that dolphins can pass, to possibly qualify as persons. Which therefore means abortions target mere animals, not persons. PERIOD.

Can you offer the slightest bit of better Objectively Verifiable scientific data about persons and the unborn? If you can't, then that means abortion is in no sense worse than killing a typical parasite.

 

[JayDubya]

Nope. It's a dead-on accurate description of your position.

:shrug: You lying is hardly novel, pal.

 

[calamity]

:shrug: You lying is hardly novel, pal.

The lie is on you and your denial is comic.

 

[JayDubya]

The lie is on you and your denial is comic.

I don't advocate for any such thing and never have; your ridiculous delusions are your own.

 

[nota bene]

Compared to letting born children starve and die of treatable illness like you advocate doing, damn right, abortion is good

Saying that abortion prevents children from starving and dying of treatable illness is preposterous.

 

[JayDubya]

Saying that abortion prevents children from starving and dying of treatable illness is preposterous.

I mean they do accomplish that.

But it's like saying you've found the cure for cancer and showing a bullet.

 

[calamity]

Saying that abortion prevents children from starving and dying of treatable illness is preposterous.

I take it you do not follow Jay's other position, which is that government should not be feeding hungry children or giving them healthcare? If you had, you would not be chiming in with such a ridiculous comment. :roll:

 

[FutureIncoming]

Cloning is just an alternate means to create a new organism. That organism would have the same natural rights as any other human created the traditional way.

NOT BEFORE BIRTH. Remember the brain-dead adult on full life-support? With a Formal Death Certificate filled out? It is still a living human body (except for the brain)! You seem to think that that is all that is necessary for an entity to have rights. NOPE!!! The Science and the Law and the Medical Profession are all against that sort of idiocy! (You should also study the "persistent vegetative state", which is more difficult to diagnose, features some limited brain activity, and is just as uncurable as full brain death.) All the available data indicates that mindless unborn humans don't deserve any rights, for the exact same reason that the brain-dead and the persistently vegetative don't deserve rights. But somehow the obvious escapes you. Why?

 

[calamity]

I don't advocate for any such thing and never have; your ridiculous delusions are your own.

You have more than once clearly stated that you advocate against the government feeding hungry children or providing poor kids healthcare. Correct?

 

[JayDubya]

government should not be feeding hungry children or giving them healthcare?

Yes, this is correct.

Government has no role in charity.

This is what you are using to make up your retarded, nonsensical, trolling lie.

I realize you must be a dyed-in-the-wool socialist so you can't see any solution other than a big government nanny state wiping everyone's ass from cradle to grave, but others do not share your affliction.

 

[nota bene]

There is a very large difference between triumphing over your mistakes and eliminating them with violence.

Yes, there is. But you know what I meant...unless you, uniquely, are qualified to cast the first stone.

 

[nota bene]

I take it you do not follow Jay's other position, which is that government should not be feeding hungry children or giving them healthcare? If you had, you would not be chiming in with such a ridiculous comment. :roll:

My comment was not ridiculous. Yikes, take a logic class and learn about inadequate causal relationships. :3oops:

 

[JayDubya]

Yes, there is. But you know what I meant...unless you, uniquely, are qualified to cast the first stone.

I mean, for this fictional character she made up to "triumph" over her misdeeds she would have to have realized what she did was wrong and worked tirelessly since then to campaign to stop abortion.

And since, of course, this is a fictional character made up by a radical pro-abort, she will have whatever traits and backstory necessary to fit that slanted narrative instead.


I don't claim to be without "sin" - though I don't believe in sin - but I ain't never killed another human being neither (pardon the exercise in vernacular).

If you HAVE to do that for self-defense, it's understandable. Real folks who do what this lie of Scrabaholic did in her story? They didn't have to; they chose to kill another human being in cold blood; that is a moral event horizon you don't come back from; at best you can work tirelessly to try to stop others from making such a mistake, but even then your humanity is still diminished.

So regarding this particular metaphorical "stone?" I cast it freely, and ask for more and larger rocks.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I take it you do not follow Jay's other position, which is that government should not be feeding hungry children or giving them healthcare? If you had, you would not be chiming in with such a ridiculous comment. :roll:

If government should be doing that then why require most parents to accept that responsibility?

 

[Henrin]

Agreeing with you, and adding the second line to be sure we agree on that too.

No, I'm pretty sure I know what you were doing and that's not it.

I know Jay thinks it's murder though. So, you'll probably lose his support

No, he doesn't.