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Amazon is looking for a 2nd headquarter city, a 'full equal to Seattle'

Lord Tammerlain said:
Amazon is no where near being a monopoly in any business they are in

Walmart is nearly 4 times the size of Amazon in revenues.

Only does Amazon Web Services come anywhere close to having a 50% market share in any business Amazon is in. Amazon is not going to be broken up. That is only in the dreams and thoughts of Trump supporters

Trump is only upset with Amazon because Bezos owns the WP.
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This theory has nothing to do with Trump, but it does with the fact that the Right is increasingly warming up to stiffer regulation of tech companies.

Thus according to the Theory Amazon wants to get diversified now, while they still can.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This theory has nothing to do with Trump, but it does with the fact that the Right is increasingly warming up to stiffer regulation of tech companies.

Thus according to the Theory Amazon wants to get diversified now, while they still can.
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Amazon has nothing to worry about regarding being broken up
 
JANFU said:
Toronto Canada is also submitting.
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Not a lot of point to going to a second liberal city,,,,,,the point would have to be that it is in Canada.

EDIT: Plus being almost as expensive as Seattle is not likely to work.
You would need around 4,517.36$ (5,486.40C$) in Toronto to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 5,600.00$ in Seattle, WA (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living. This assumes net earnings (after income tax). You can change the amount in this calculation
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https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livi...untry2=Canada&city1=Seattle,+WA&city2=Toronto


NOW WE'RE COOKIN!
You would need around 3,588.78$ in Kansas City, MO to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 5,600.00$ in Seattle, WA (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living. This assumes net earnings (after income tax). You can change the amount in this calculation.
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https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livi...tates&city1=Seattle,+WA&city2=Kansas+City,+MO
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
The talk has started, and everything starts from the idea.
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Talk is cheap

Action costs money. Amazon has the lawyers and the legal standing to show and prove it is not a monopoly. The first time any antitrust suit is brought up against Amazon, it will be shot down quickly by Amazon lawyers with the law on their side. Just because some people dont like Amazon, does not mean they have anything resembling a case to have it broken up through antitrust laws
 
JANFU said:
Ahem- Medical care is covered in Canada. Do the math
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Does seem to be a flaw of this calculator now dont it.....

Surely the geniuses will let us know what's what, some so-called journalist is sure to write a piece of some quality on this...

RIGHT?
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Talk is cheap

Action costs money. Amazon has the lawyers and the legal standing to show and prove it is not a monopoly. The first time any antitrust suit is brought up against Amazon, it will be shot down quickly by Amazon lawyers with the law on their side. Just because some people dont like Amazon, does not mean they have anything resembling a case to have it broken up through antitrust laws
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I guess no one think about the Sherman anti-trust law because it has not been used for so long. I have felt for years that Amazon is vulnerable under this statute.
 
washunut said:
I guess no one think about the Sherman anti-trust law because it has not been used for so long. I have felt for years that Amazon is vulnerable under this statute.
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The last time it was used successfully was against AT&T which clearly was a monopoly. It was tried against Microsoft in its attempt to get IE to replace Netscape. It was using its dominance in PC operating systems (at the time what nearly 90% of all PC's ran Windows if I recall correctly)

Amazon has a dominate position in web based retailing, but not in retailing. Walmart is 4 times the size of Amazon in revenues, and not all of Amazon's revenues are in retailing. It is unlikely that Sherman Antitrust laws could be used against Amazon due to the fact it is not a monopoly in any of its market positions
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
The last time it was used successfully was against AT&T which clearly was a monopoly. It was tried against Microsoft in its attempt to get IE to replace Netscape. It was using its dominance in PC operating systems (at the time what nearly 90% of all PC's ran Windows if I recall correctly)

Amazon has a dominate position in web based retailing, but not in retailing. Walmart is 4 times the size of Amazon in revenues, and not all of Amazon's revenues are in retailing. It is unlikely that Sherman Antitrust laws could be used against Amazon due to the fact it is not a monopoly in any of its market positions
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It can be used because they use what is called predatory pricing. They can do this because the stock market has decided they don't have to make on their way to dominating retail.
 
washunut said:
It can be used because they use what is called predatory pricing. They can do this because the stock market has decided they don't have to make on their way to dominating retail.
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Amazon is overall making money (just barely by annual reports). They do plow most gross profit back into the company allowing for their rapid expansion
 
Lord of Planar said:
Se now, I would be an favor of reducing such things by allowing no more than a given market share percentage for any one conglomerate. Different things on my mind about this. Forces breakups, or incremental tax rates with increased market share are two thoughts.
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Sure, that's regulation and I will agree with you. We do need to some capos on this stuff in order to keep competition honest and as in as many separate hands as we can get.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Amazon is overall making money (just barely by annual reports). They do plow most gross profit back into the company allowing for their rapid expansion
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They make money on their cloud business, not their retail business.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I have no problem with extending sin taxes to food items that are unhealthy. I believe in personal choice, but I also believe what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

The more and more people want socialized medicine, and the more it becomes reality, the more I want ways of mitigating the tax dollars used, and revenues collected on the things we know do harm.

Look at the people who drink several sodas a day. Their choice, but now society want the tax payer to pay for their obesity and medical treatment...

Think about it...
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I don't support it. You can say almost anything is unhealthy or bad for the environment in order to tax it. I hate that they say that its about health. It's all about the revenue. It's like the speeding and red light cameras in chicago. They really don't care if people speed. they just want they money. It's not about the safety.
 
99percenter said:
I don't support it. You can say almost anything is unhealthy or bad for the environment in order to tax it. I hate that they say that its about health. It's all about the revenue. It's like the speeding and red light cameras in chicago. They really don't care if people speed. they just want they money. It's not about the safety.
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And I don't like these ever increasing entitlements.

How else are we going to pay for them?
 
Lord of Planar said:
And I don't like these ever increasing entitlements.

How else are we going to pay for them?
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This is the problem is the problem with you liberals. Instead of cutting spending, your answer to all our problems is just raising taxes. Eventually you will run out of tax payers to tax.
 
99percenter said:
This is the problem is the problem with you liberals. Instead of cutting spending, your answer to all our problems is just raising taxes. Eventually you will run out of tax payers to tax.
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The problem for Seattle at the moment is that the cost of living is exploding but the quality of life is imploding.

The choices made over the years is the reason.

Amazon wants options.
 
99percenter said:
This is the problem is the problem with you liberals. Instead of cutting spending, your answer to all our problems is just raising taxes. Eventually you will run out of tax payers to tax.
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I am by no means a liberal.

I think you fail to comprehend my reasoning.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The problem for Seattle at the moment is that the cost of living is exploding but the quality of life is imploding.

The choices made over the years is the reason.

Amazon wants options.
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They're looking at Toronto, San Jose, Boston, and Washington DC, because Seattle is too expensive?
 
Chomsky said:
They're looking at Toronto, San Jose, Boston, and Washington DC, because Seattle is too expensive?
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So far as I know they are not looking at anything, they have only just now asked for them who want to host Amazon to submit some guidance on what their bid would look like if they were to make one.
 
Chomsky said:
They're looking at Toronto, San Jose, Boston, and Washington DC, because Seattle is too expensive?
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suspect cost of living is not a primary factor
main mover - based on the RFP - appears to be in what location would young, ambitious, high-skilled people be willing to move to for a good job
 
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