Adam Schiff-Ukraine connection comes under scrutiny

[Jack Fabulous]

This whole debacle should serve as a cautionary tale, not only for the left, but for the right, too.

Ukraine is a cesspool of corruption. It always has been and it always will be. You can't crawl into bed with pigs without getting dirty...

 

[tres borrachos]

Adam Schiff-Ukraine connection comes under scrutiny | Fox News

Adam Schiff's ties to Ukraine under the microscope
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, who has played a leading role in investigating the Trump-Ukraine scandal, is facing questions about his own connection to a Soviet-born businessman who has raised money for his campaign and whose company has received lucrative defense contracts from Ukraine's government.
That man is Igor Pasternak, the founder and CEO of Worldwide Aeros Corp., which makes blimps for military and commercial customers. His business has also been involved in weapons manufacturing, working with the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense to produce a modified version of the M4 and M16 rifles, according to reports.

PELOSI DEFENDS SCHIFF AFTER BEING PRESSED ABOUT HIS 'PARODY' OF TRUMP'S UKRAINE CALL
In 2013, Pasternak (arms dealer) hosted a fundraiser in Washington for Schiff, who later came to embrace a strong stance in support of the United States sending military aid to Ukraine during its conflict with Russia.

“Before this time, Schiff rarely, if ever, mentioned Ukraine,” Fox News’ Laura Ingraham said on her show Thursday night, after detailing Schiff’s connection to Pasternak. “But after the fundraiser, he used multiple television appearances to basically demand that we send money and arms to them.”

This is yet more blow back from the failed impeachment attempt. I call it failed because it's just a matter of time until its thrown out.
This is something we should start to look into and know about. Seems more and more we are seeing corruption from the left wing relative to Russia/Ukraine. I recommend you guys take a good hard look into Pasternak and his dealings with Adam Schiff.

Thoughts? Think there is anything here or are these claims baseless?

My thoughts? Laura Ingraham knows how ignorant Trump's base is and she capitalizes on that.

Igor Pasternak is a US citizen and not an arms dealer.

How much more are you people going to embarrass yourselves?

 

[tres borrachos]

Do you have any information on when he became a citizen?

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He's been in this country for 25 years. He's been a donor to Republicans and Democrats. He's a naturalized US citizen.

Pasternak donated $5400 to Lindsey Graham in 2016. What did Lindsey give him in return?

 

[MTAtech]

My thoughts? Laura Ingraham knows how ignorant Trump's base is and she capitalizes on that.

Igor Pasternak is a US citizen and not an arms dealer.

How much more are you people going to embarrass yourselves?

Nice 8itch slap!

If Igor Pasternak was not a U.S. citizen, he would not be able to legally donate to Democrats and Republicans.

 

[VanceMack]

I mean no matter how much you attack anyone else, we already have direct evidence of Trump's wrongdoing.

Thats the hilarious part. You literally have ****. You have no evidence of wrongdoing and have to do mental gymnastics to try to fabricate SOMETHING out of nothing, just like you have been doing for the entirety of the last three years. But hey...as long as you are following your 'leaders'.....

 

[dixon01767]

Having connections in a foreign country is not a problem. Threatening to sever those connections if said foreign country doesn't open an unprompted investigation into your political opponent is a crime.

????? What crime would that be? There silly theory is that Trump was soliciting a campaign contribution from a foreigner. They are claiming the asking for a favor is the crime.

 

[maxparrish]

Having connections in a foreign country is not a problem. Threatening to sever those connections if said foreign country doesn't open an unprompted investigation into your political opponent is a crime.

I don't know that it is a crime 'per se', but it would be very disreputable and shameful.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I thought accepting something of value was s problem?
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I think it's accepting something of value from foreigners which is the problem to be more specific.
ymmv

 

[HAL9000]

This sounds like something the left would claim is a violation of the emoulets clause if a republican accepted a fund raising party from a foreign entity.

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Igor Pasternak was born in Kazakstan, but he is an American citizen who lives in California. How desperate are Republicans right now?

 

[HAL9000]

????? What crime would that be? There silly theory is that Trump was soliciting a campaign contribution from a foreigner. They are claiming the asking for a favor is the crime.

Attempted Hobb's Act extortion under color of official right.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Igor Pasternak was born in Kazakstan, but he is an American citizen who lives in California. How desperate are Republicans right now?

How dumb do the influencers think their followers are?

 

[MTAtech]

????? What crime would that be? There silly theory is that Trump was soliciting a campaign contribution from a foreigner. They are claiming the asking for a favor is the crime.

Extortion
Federal Election Law violation
The impeachable offense of abuse of power
Withholding funds appropriated by Congress

 

[tres borrachos]

Nice 8itch slap!

If Igor Pasternak was not a U.S. citizen, he would not be able to legally donate to Democrats and Republicans.

Pasternak has been donating since as far back as Bob Dole that I was able to see. He donated $5400 to Lindsey Graham in 2016.

I can't believe how ignorant Trump fans are becoming.

 

[tres borrachos]

Igor Pasternak was born in Kazakstan, but he is an American citizen who lives in California. How desperate are Republicans right now?

Rhetorical question. Read the posts on this board if you want to get an idea how desperate they are. And yes, they are desperate, to the point that they are flailing and making imbecilic posts to try to deflect from what has come out the last 2 weeks about Trump that is undeniably un-American and corrupt as Hell.

Too bad they are failing.

 

[lwf]

I thought accepting something of value was s problem?

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Accepting something of value from a foreign country is not a crime. Americans do this on a daily basis. Accepting something of value in exchange for fabricating an investigation into your political opponent is. This undermines American freedom and democracy. There was no evidence of any wrong doing by the Bidens. Only a conspiracy theory. Conservatives suspected that there were shady dealings, so they asked the question on conservative biased news and radio shows in order to spread misinformation about someone they feared could beat Trump. Trump heard this and asked Zelensky to investigate this question. Hence, a crime has been committed, the same as if Obama had asked Xi Jinping to open an investigation into where Ivanka's money is coming from because liberals were asking that question. That also would have been a crime, yes?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Howe many mob lawyers do you guys think are taking notes from Trump, Rush and their surrogates?

 

[trouble13]

Accepting something of value from a foreign country is not a crime. Americans do this on a daily basis. Accepting something of value in exchange for fabricating an investigation into your political opponent is. This undermines American freedom and democracy. There was no evidence of any wrong doing by the Bidens. Only a conspiracy theory. Conservatives suspected that there were shady dealings, so they asked the question on conservative biased news and radio shows in order to spread misinformation about someone they feared could beat Trump. Trump heard this and asked Zelensky to investigate this question. Hence, a crime has been committed, the same as if Obama had asked Xi Jinping to open an investigation into where Ivanka's money is coming from because liberals were asking that question. That also would have been a crime, yes?

How do you know if there is any evidence unless its investigated?

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[W_Heisenberg]

How do you know if there is any evidence unless its investigated?

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Okay. Tell the DOJ to actually start the investigation.

 

[lwf]

I don't know that it is a crime 'per se', but it would be very disreputable and shameful.

It is a crime of extortion. Demanding that someone commit a crime or you will cut off a source of their income is extortion.

 

[lwf]

????? What crime would that be? There silly theory is that Trump was soliciting a campaign contribution from a foreigner. They are claiming the asking for a favor is the crime.

Extortion

 

[lwf]

How do you know if there is any evidence unless its investigated?

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So, then should we investigate Melania as a Russian spy? How do you know if there is any evidence unless it is investigated?

Opening an official investigation into someone and hoping to find corruption because they are your political opponent is abuse of power. Threatening to withhold monetary aid from a foreign country unless they do so is also extortion.

 

[Mach]

More breaking news from Iron_Merc!

Republicans are attacking a Democrat!!

This has *NEVER* happened before! POTUS, attacking whoever is investigating him!? OUTRAGEOUS!

 

[trouble13]

So, then should we investigate Melania as a Russian spy? How do you know if there is any evidence unless it is investigated?

Opening an official investigation into someone and hoping to find corruption because they are your political opponent is abuse of power. Threatening to withhold monetary aid from a foreign country unless they do so is also extortion.

Absolutely she should be looked at if there is reasonable suspicion like there is with Joe Biden. I dont understand why people on the left are so adament against looking into what Biden was involved in there. If Biden did everything on the up and up the investigation will confirm that.

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[lwf]

Absolutely she should be looked at if there is reasonable suspicion like there is with Joe Biden. I dont understand why people on the left are so adament against looking into what Biden was involved in there. If Biden did everything on the up and up the investigation will confirm that.

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What is the reasonable suspicion? Where did it come from? Is this suspicion different than the one liberals have about Ivanka Trump's sources of income?

 

[trouble13]

What is the reasonable suspicion? Where did it come from? Is this suspicion different than the one liberals have about Ivanka Trump's sources of income?

Im not familiar with ivankas sources of incomes so i cant answer that. Joe biden is on tape saying he did something that may or mat not of been illegal. I see no issue with investigating that.

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