A Vietnam War veteran drew attention this week after pulling down a Confederate flag from a flagpole

[Kiwimac]

Obama shares racist Black Panther rhetoric, but he may not be a Black Panther. Obama shares racist rhetoric with black racists but he may not be a racist. Obama shows deference to Muslims and favors them at times over Christians and Jews, but he may not be a Muslim. Obama calls himself a Christian but he may not be a Christian.

Rot and nonsense

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[Saladin4]

Obama shares racist Black Panther rhetoric, but he may not be a Black Panther. Obama shares racist rhetoric with black racists but he may not be a racist. Obama shows deference to Muslims and favors them at times over Christians and Jews, but he may not be a Muslim. Obama calls himself a Christian but he may not be a Christian.

Is this some kind of Hill Billy Logic?......Yee Haw

 

[marke]

Is this some kind of Hill Billy Logic?......Yee Haw

Bill and Hillbilly Clinton? From Podunk, Arkansas?

 

[Stymie_X]

"Long after the war"?

1865 is not "long after the war" buddy.

Once again, the South controlled the Federal government for decades up until the election of Lincoln.

You don't seem to know basic American history, so you should start with that.

Huh, wouldja lookee there...I posted one thing, you changed it and then accosted me for your...er...intransigences. Interesting innit.

I posted 'long after the war was begun, you didn't read that correctly.

You cannot or refuse to read (I owed you insult, trying to keep up here) and insist I need help. Interesting innit, introspect much?
And I ain't yer buddy.

 

[Tigerace117]

Huh, wouldja lookee there...I posted one thing, you changed it and then accosted me for your...er...intransigences. Interesting innit.

I posted 'long after the war was begun, you didn't read that correctly.

You cannot or refuse to read (I owed you insult, trying to keep up here) and insist I need help. Interesting innit, introspect much?
And I ain't yer buddy.

Oh look, you finally figured out how to use the quote function. Congraluations :roll:

You posted that slavery didn't end until "long after the war".

Slavery was officially and formally banned in 1865.

1865 is not "long after the war."

Yes, your historical ignorance is extremely interesting.

The fact that it took a few years to crush the south and ensure that slavery was banned there as well is utterly meaningless.

Perhaps you should take some remedial American history classes buddy.

 

[Tigerace117]

I don't agree that tearing down statues of former respected American historical figures will do anything for modern blacks. However, Trump has been promoting fiscal policies which have resulted in steeply rising numbers of blacks gaining employment in the work force. Those sorts of things will help modern blacks and not emotional drivel designed to keep blacks divided from American society over things like long-gone slavery.

There is no reason why anyone should tolerate the celebration of slavers who murdered hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and sailors in a desperate attempt to preserve that institution. A number of African Americans especially despise the Confederacy and those who celebrate it, and given your previous claims it's pretty clear your opinion on "what will benefit modern blacks" will be off the wall at best.

In that case you shouldn't have a problem with getting rid of monuments to those who fought for long dead slavery.

 

[Tigerace117]

Middle Eastern Muslims began financing American Muslims in politics in the later years of the Carter administration. Many Black Panthers were also Muslim, but likely not all. Obama spouted rhetoric which was consistent with Black Panther dogma and he was very supportive of Muslims worldwide, but he publicly claimed he was a Christian. Maybe he was a Christian in name but so what? Hitler was also a Christian in name.

Once again, Obama is not a Muslim, so your claim is meaningless.

Your second claim is also meaningless....Obama is not a "Black Panther".

Lol oh really? Do you have any evidence to support that claim? Either one, actually?

 

[Tigerace117]

I do not believe Abraham Lincoln believe in evolution but if he did he was wrong.

No, what's really wrong is that people continue to cling to the Confederacy even today.

 

[Tigerace117]

You're posts certainly are a source of amusement! Hey tonight the Sox just finished a 4 game massacre of the Yankees.
Kinda reminds me of the massacre that the "Wizard of the Saddle" handed the Yankee's under Sturgis about a century & a half ago.
I think they called it the 'Massacre at Tishomingo Creek'. At Brices Crossroads Forrest captured 16 cannon, 1,500 stands
of small arms, 300,000 rounds of small arm ammunition, 16 ambulances, 176 wagons, 161 mules, 23 horses, and all of the
Federals' baggage and supplies. Quite a haul, quite a payload! Confederate losses 490, Yankee losses 2,240!

I know the story by heart but better reference it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brice's_Cross_Roads

Yepm he was such a big help that the Confederacy.......got crushed.

But hey, the "Wizard of the Saddle" and his boys proved particularly effective at murdering unarmed farmers after their precious Confederacy was ground into dust, so there's a plus for you:roll::roll::roll:

The best thing about your favorite battle is that it didn't actually change the war.....at all. There was no actual effect from the raid. You lot still got annihilated, and Sherman still ripped you a new asshole that you are still crying about even today.

 

[marke]

There is no reason why anyone should tolerate the celebration of slavers who murdered hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and sailors in a desperate attempt to preserve that institution. A number of African Americans especially despise the Confederacy and those who celebrate it, and given your previous claims it's pretty clear your opinion on "what will benefit modern blacks" will be off the wall at best.

In that case you shouldn't have a problem with getting rid of monuments to those who fought for long dead slavery.

I have read accounts of enslaved blacks who did not hate their own slave masters as much as modern leftist racist agitators do for unjustifiable and unreasonable reasons. I have read of blacks who loved their owners and owners who loved their slaves, but most of these loving people were Christians, not degenerate rebels against God with an angry burr under their saddles towards American history, laws, traditions, values and morals.

 

[marke]

No, what's really wrong is that people continue to cling to the Confederacy even today.

I grew up in Austin, Texas. I do not support the infinitesimally small mobs of morons who think Texans should change the name of their state's capitol just because the morons get their socks in a bunch over the fact that Austin did not measure up to their inviolable but changing standards of approval.

 

[slick]

So, in a battle, the traitors bet the American soldiers. Whoop-de-doo. Doesn't make 'em less traitors.

A battle, is that how you interpret what happened that June day in Mississippi. Is that all you think it was?

The Institute for Military Studies concluded that the Battle of Brice's Crossroads (won by Forrest), was perhaps
the most spectacular display of tactical genius during warfare.

The study of the battle of Brice’s Crossroads and the man who engineered this tactical masterpiece provides
the warfighter with an experience that epitomizes the intent of FM 100-5. Generations of leaders have studied
this battle to determine how General Nathan Bedford Forrest achieved the virtual annihilation of a better equipped
and supplied Union army that outnumbered his forces almost three to one. A great deal has been written about
this battle. And though some conflicting accounts exist over relatively minor issues, the battle is a classic study,
and the battlefield is a virtual tactical time capsule.

Examining the nine principles of war: objective, offensive, mass, economy of force, maneuver, unity of command, security,
surprise, and simplicity. All were flawlessly executed by Forrest at Brice’s Crossroads.
Combat power, or the ability to fight, consists of four elements: maneuver, firepower, protection, and leadership. Forrest fully understood
these elements and practiced them at Brice’s Crossroads as though he had authored the modern operations manual.

The relentless pursuit of the defeated Union troops at Brice’s Crossroads was as much a result of Forrest’s need for
vital military stores as it was an effort to annihilate the defeated enemy.

https://www.blueandgrayeducation.org/book-store/...2/a-study-in-warfighting/

 

[Saladin4]

A battle, is that how you interpret what happened that June day in Mississippi. Is that all you think it was?

The Institute for Military Studies concluded that the Battle of Brice's Crossroads (won by Forrest), was perhaps
the most spectacular display of tactical genius during warfare.

The study of the battle of Brice’s Crossroads and the man who engineered this tactical masterpiece provides
the warfighter with an experience that epitomizes the intent of FM 100-5. Generations of leaders have studied
this battle to determine how General Nathan Bedford Forrest achieved the virtual annihilation of a better equipped
and supplied Union army that outnumbered his forces almost three to one. A great deal has been written about
this battle. And though some conflicting accounts exist over relatively minor issues, the battle is a classic study,
and the battlefield is a virtual tactical time capsule.

Examining the nine principles of war: objective, offensive, mass, economy of force, maneuver, unity of command, security,
surprise, and simplicity. All were flawlessly executed by Forrest at Brice’s Crossroads.
Combat power, or the ability to fight, consists of four elements: maneuver, firepower, protection, and leadership. Forrest fully understood
these elements and practiced them at Brice’s Crossroads as though he had authored the modern operations manual.

The relentless pursuit of the defeated Union troops at Brice’s Crossroads was as much a result of Forrest’s need for
vital military stores as it was an effort to annihilate the defeated enemy.

https://www.blueandgrayeducation.org/book-store/...2/a-study-in-warfighting/

Nobody cares anymore about these Confederate assholes....They are all dead...Thankfully

 

[slick]

Yepm he was such a big help that the Confederacy.......got crushed.

But hey, the "Wizard of the Saddle" and his boys proved particularly effective at murdering unarmed farmers after their precious Confederacy was ground into dust, so there's a plus for you:roll::roll::roll:

The best thing about your favorite battle is that it didn't actually change the war.....at all. There was no actual effect from the raid. You lot still got annihilated, and Sherman still ripped you a new asshole that you are still crying about even today.

As usual a lot of nonsense without documentation. A top SJW civil war forum poster, proving again to be a 'drive-by' shooter with no aim whatsoever.

 

[slick]

Nobody cares anymore about these Confederate assholes....They are all dead...Thankfully

Nobody cares I wouldn't be to sure of that. The army field manual 105 & those who study warfare clearly cares.
The operational leadership of General Nathan Bedord Forrest
at the tactical level of combat & presents some lessons learned for the modern
warfare commander in the context of doctrinal publications such as Army Field
Manual 100-5. Forrest's greatest victory at Brices Crossroads is exmined as a
case study which exemplifies many of his innovations and tactics in the art of
manuever warfare & operational leadership!

https://www.scribd.com/document/332375863/a283415-pdf

 

[Tigerace117]

As usual a lot of nonsense without documentation. A top SJW civil war forum poster, proving again to be a 'drive-by' shooter with no aim whatsoever.

You don't know anything about the Klan your hero created' history?

Hmm....let's enlighten you shall we?

"The Klan attacked black members of the Loyal Leagues and intimidated Southern Republicans and Freedmen's Bureau workers. When they killed black political leaders, they also took heads of families, along with the leaders of churches and community groups, because these people had many roles in society. Agents of the Freedmen's Bureau reported weekly assaults and murders of blacks.

"Armed guerrilla warfare killed thousands of Negroes; political riots were staged; their causes or occasions were always obscure, their results always certain: ten to one hundred times as many Negroes were killed as whites." Masked men shot into houses and burned them, sometimes with the occupants still inside. They drove successful black farmers off their land. "Generally, it can be reported that in North and South Carolina, in 18 months ending in June 1867, there were 197 murders and 548 cases of aggravated assault."[65]


George W. Ashburn was assassinated for his pro-black sentiments.
Klan violence worked to suppress black voting, and campaign seasons were deadly. More than 2,000 people were killed, wounded, or otherwise injured in Louisiana within a few weeks prior to the Presidential election of November 1868. Although St. Landry Parish had a registered Republican majority of 1,071, after the murders, no Republicans voted in the fall elections. White Democrats cast the full vote of the parish for President Grant's opponent. The KKK killed and wounded more than 200 black Republicans, hunting and chasing them through the woods. Thirteen captives were taken from jail and shot; a half-buried pile of 25 bodies was found in the woods. The KKK made people vote Democratic and gave them certificates of the fact.[66]

In the April 1868 Georgia gubernatorial election, Columbia County cast 1,222 votes for Republican Rufus Bullock. By the November presidential election, Klan intimidation led to suppression of the Republican vote and only one person voted for Ulysses S. Grant.[67]"


You are a top Neo-Confederate on this forum, still whining about the crushing of the slaveocracy and its attempts to destroy the United States. You cling to unimportant skirmishes as a way to validate your hero worship of a slaver who committed more than one atrocity and formed a domestic terrorist organization dedicated to oppressing Americans even after the war.

 

[slick]

The south won that battle...Still the old images of Chattanooga-Atlanta and Savannah burning are breath taking and beautiful....Let Freedom Ring!

Here is what Union General William Sherman who won the battles you mentioned of Atlanta & Savannah, had to say about the southern soldier 'who won that battle'

His greatest adversary William T. Sherman called Forrest “the most
remarkable man our civil war produced on either side’ & ‘he had a
strategy which was original & incomprehensible. There was no theory
or art of war by which I could calculate with any degree of certainty
what Forrest was up to.’

Union General William T. Sherman also remarked that he would get that devil Forrest if it cost him 10,000 lives and broke the
US treasury. Sherman sent four successively larger armies after Bedford, and he decisively defeated each one.'

https://ucvrelics.com/general-nathan-b-forrest

 

[Saladin4]

Here is what Union General William Sherman who won the battles you mentioned of Atlanta & Savannah, had to say about the southern soldier 'who won that battle'

His greatest adversary William T. Sherman called Forrest “the most
remarkable man our civil war produced on either side’ & ‘he had a
strategy which was original & incomprehensible. There was no theory
or art of war by which I could calculate with any degree of certainty
what Forrest was up to.’

Union General William T. Sherman also remarked that he would get that devil Forrest if it cost him 10,000 lives and broke the
US treasury. Sherman sent four successively larger armies after Bedford, and he decisively defeated each one.'

Still Atlanta burned and the South crumbled...That was great!

 

[Tigerace117]

I grew up in Austin, Texas. I do not support the infinitesimally small mobs of morons who think Texans should change the name of their state's capitol just because the morons get their socks in a bunch over the fact that Austin did not measure up to their inviolable but changing standards of approval.

Yes, we all get that you don't think monuments to slavers are such a bad thing.

 

[Tigerace117]

I have read accounts of enslaved blacks who did not hate their own slave masters as much as modern leftist racist agitators do for unjustifiable and unreasonable reasons. I have read of blacks who loved their owners and owners who loved their slaves, but most of these loving people were Christians, not degenerate rebels against God with an angry burr under their saddles towards American history, laws, traditions, values and morals.

Ah yes, another old Neo-Confederate talking point. "Slavery wasn't so bad! Look, I can dredge up some story where a slave claimed that he was treated well! It's all a plot by northern "liberals"!" :roll::roll::roll:

Yes, defending the Confederacy is both unjustifiable and unreasonable, yet you still cling to it.

It is truly pathetic watching those who support the Confederacy makes excuses for slavery. No wonder it took so much blood and fire to thrash you lot into submission.

 

[marke]

Yes, we all get that you don't think monuments to slavers are such a bad thing.

I am not in favor of supporting MLK for some of his bad views and influences, but I don't go around advocating the removal of statues honoring him.

 

[marke]

Ah yes, another old Neo-Confederate talking point. "Slavery wasn't so bad! Look, I can dredge up some story where a slave claimed that he was treated well! It's all a plot by northern "liberals"!" :roll::roll::roll:

Yes, defending the Confederacy is both unjustifiable and unreasonable, yet you still cling to it.

It is truly pathetic watching those who support the Confederacy makes excuses for slavery. No wonder it took so much blood and fire to thrash you lot into submission.

Hello? The Inquisition is over. Slavery is over. The Civil War is over. Get over it.

 

[Tigerace117]

I am not in favor of supporting MLK for some of his bad views and influences, but I don't go around advocating the removal of statues honoring him.

And what "bad influences and ideas" would those be? Can you provide some, you know, evidence to support your claims yet?

 

[Tigerace117]

Hello? The Inquisition is over. Slavery is over. The Civil War is over. Get over it.

Yes, you should get over the Civil War and stop clinging to the Confederacy.

You still haven't seem to figured out that your chosen line of rhetoric is a double edged sword, and it's very amusing.

 

[marke]

And what "bad influences and ideas" would those be? Can you provide some, you know, evidence to support your claims yet?

MLK was more a socialist than not, and I am opposed to Marxist views. Here are some of his quotes espousing views that are in serious conflict with my own:

I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic.

He said capitalism has brought about a system that takes necessities from the masses to give luxuries to the classes.

He described his work with the SCLC: In a sense, you could say we are engaged in the class struggle.

Speaking at a SCLC retreat in 1966, King said, "something is wrong...with capitalism" and there must be a better distribution of wealth... in the country. Maybe he suggested America must move toward a democratic socialism.
The Forgotten Socialist History of Martin Luther King Jr. - In These Times