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A Question about Christ [W 77, 186]

Re: A Question about Christ [W 77]

Tanngrisnir said:
Yes, unlike you, I'm quite familiar with logic. It's how I know you're not.

Seeing as this is about an omnipotent being, capable of all things, it's possible that this being made different interpretations fit different types of people, all of them right in their own way.

You don't really have a background in abstract thought, do you?
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You're a full quart low on understanding Biblical Theology, which is why you just switched your argument from the sinner and Hell to who's familiar with logic.

Do you ever update your twisted theology or just fling more pseudo-theology against the wall to see what might stick?
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
This god made the decision to make people it knew in advance would burn for eternity by such a rejection.

You really are having a hard time facing the reality of biblical claims.

What's got you so confused?
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And you don't believe any of it so why are you here in the religious forum?
 
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Logicman said:
Tsk tsk...

Daniel 12:2 - "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

What's the name of the place where there's "shame and EVERLASTING contempt"?
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The grave.
 
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Logicman said:
Not a chance. The scripture says those who sleep (who are dead) in the dust of the earth shall awake.
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You can interpret it your way, Other can interpret it their way. In Judaism, it's not hell. That is actually one of the clues that the Book of Daniel was written in the 2nd century bce, rather than the 6th century bce... because of the apocalyptic theology, and one reason it's in teh scriptures, not the prophets.
 
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Logicman said:
You're a full quart low on understanding Biblical Theology, which is why you just switched your argument from the sinner and Hell to who's familiar with logic.
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No, I'm not, which is why you have to dishonesty try and misrepresent what I stated. I made no such change.
Do you ever update your twisted theology or just fling more pseudo-theology against the wall to see what might stick?
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Have you ever considered posting honestly? The bible recommends it, so I can see why you'd not be familiar with it.

Pity you can't face what the bible clearly says.
 
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Elvira said:
And you don't believe any of it so why are you here in the religious forum?
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LOL! One doesn't have to be religious to engage in discussions. Why are you so afraid of what I posted? Why can't you address it?
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! One doesn't have to be religious to engage in discussions. Why are you so afraid of what I posted? Why can't you address it?
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I did address it...sorry you missed it...
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
No, you didn't. Yet more dishonesty based in fear, I see.
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Um yes I did...no fear here...I generally don't waste my time with rude people...
 
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Re: A Question about Christ [W 77]

Tanngrisnir said:
Yes, unlike you, I'm quite familiar with logic. It's how I know you're not.

Seeing as this is about an omnipotent being, capable of all things, it's possible that this being made different interpretations fit different types of people, all of them right in their own way.

You don't really have a background in abstract thought, do you?
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What I don't have a background in how people like you can twist the truth.
 
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Elvira said:
Um yes I did...no fear here...I generally don't waste my time with rude people...
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Oh, then perhaps I'm mistaken. Please link to the post where you actually did that.

Thanks!
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
What a deliciously ignorant and wishful statement.

This god you're referencing is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

It created this Hell.
It created the beings that would eventually end up there.
It had foreknowledge of that, and yet chose to create them in any case despite the fact that they would burn in torment forever.

You should really consider thinking things through before posting.
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Philosophically and analytically, you are correct, but your delivery is lacking because you're talking about people's beliefs here. There are better ways to go about discussing this type of thing.
 
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ecofarm said:
Lucifer revolted. To prove Lucifer wrong, God created beings that would recognize His sovereignty without His direct presence. If by faith alone God is proven right, then there can be no question about the judgement of Lucifer.

God created man because of the heavenly conflict (above), that lead to the Hail Mary, so to speak, of sending His Son.
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Are you able to prove said statement?! If so who created this breathtaking, awe-inspiring, magnificent, stunning power whom you're referring to as God? How, also, can you prove the quotes in the Bible to be true if they were written by men whose flaws are a part of his evolving and interpreted into multiple languages ... these languages that are not exact in every word; some say God inspired these quotes! If so, how does one know
this and can you prove same without saying men take it on Faith? "Faith" may imply various things, like hope, or optimism, or even presumptioness.

How can one explain the millions of human animals who died by non-human animals before the Monotheism concept was discovered 4000 years ago?

My answer is man created religion and his growing belief is an integral part of his culture which grew out of his ever expanding growth in using his cerebral acuity which still has a long way to go.
 
Re: A Question about Christ [W 77]

HowardBThiname said:
Philosophically and analytically, you are correct, but your delivery is lacking because you're talking about people's beliefs here. There are better ways to go about discussing this type of thing.
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No, when addressing a select population of True Believers™, it is utterly irrelevant how one addresses them. They are ossified in their beliefs and immune to reason.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
No, when addressing a select population of True Believers™, it is utterly irrelevant how one addresses them. They are ossified in their beliefs and immune to reason.
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Actually, we're all about reason. There's just not much of it here.
 
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HowardBThiname said:
Philosophically and analytically, you are correct, but your delivery is lacking because you're talking about people's beliefs here. There are better ways to go about discussing this type of thing.
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He is making a strawman argument, there is nothing correct about it.
 
Re: A Question about Christ [W 77]

Atiya said:
Are you able to prove said statement?! If so who created this breathtaking, awe-inspiring, magnificent, stunning power whom you're referring to as God? How, also, can you prove the quotes in the Bible to be true if they were written by men whose flaws are a part of his evolving and interpreted into multiple languages ... these languages that are not exact in every word; some say God inspired these quotes! If so, how does one know
this and can you prove same without saying men take it on Faith? "Faith" may imply various things, like hope, or optimism, or even presumptioness.

How can one explain the millions of human animals who died by non-human animals before the Monotheism concept was discovered 4000 years ago?

My answer is man created religion and his growing belief is an integral part of his culture which grew out of his ever expanding growth in using his cerebral acuity which still has a long way to go.
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First, you're in the religious discussion forum. Your low class uneducated trailer trash attacks against Christianity are typical of drunken kids and not appropriate.

Second, I'm atheist all my life. Never believed anything, ever, supernatural. I was merely answering the question using consensus theology.

As you are clearly ill equipped and incapable of theological discussion, good day.
 
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it's just me said:
He is making a strawman argument, there is nothing correct about it.
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No, I offered no strawman argument. One should really learn what words mean before attempting to use them.

You simply cannot refute what I have stated or you would have. Exactly like it's always been.
 
Re: A Question about Christ [W 77]

Tanngrisnir said:
No, I offered no strawman argument. One should really learn what words mean before attempting to use them.

You simply cannot refute what I have stated or you would have. Exactly like it's always been.
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There is no point in arguing about it, you simply don't know what you are talking about. All of your claims are false.
 
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It's a shame that what started out to be a positive and uplifting thread has been ruined by a few obstinate naysayers...
 
Re: A Question about Christ [W 77]

Tanngrisnir said:
No, I offered no strawman argument. One should really learn what words mean before attempting to use them.

You simply cannot refute what I have stated or you would have. Exactly like it's always been.
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I don't have to refute what you claim, you have to prove that what you claim is true, which you haven't.
 
Re: A Question about Christ [W 77]

Logicman said:
Tsk tsk...

Daniel 12:2 - "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

What's the name of the place where there's "shame and EVERLASTING contempt"?
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No Jewish authority would ever call that passage as referring to hell.

In fact, in Judaism shame is a concept meant to persuade those Hebrews that disobey God.
 
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