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2017 College Football Thread [W:49]

Maybe, it is spilled milk now. But one thing I have learned this season is there are biases among the Committee. Go back and look at the numbers. It shows a real bias throughout the year. That is how Clemson gets to be #1 and UCF ends up at #12 undefeated. And lo and behold SEC teams end up with the edge. If anything the committee their point system has been exposed.
It's a bit of an insult to put two SEC teams in.
 
Been a crazy year. Glad it is over looking forward to 2018.

Too bad Michigan couldn't win their bowl game so the Big would have had a big sweep. First time I have ever rooted for Wolverines and that was painful but even then they couldn't deliver.



Then I watched the Rose Bowl rooting for the Sooners and they lost.

After that I turned off the Sugar Bowl and this morning found out the team I was rooting for could only squeeze out 2 field goals. How in the heck can the #1 team perform so poorly? The next person to spout off to me that OSU couldn't beat Clemson get ready for an earful.

So here we are with two SEC teams battling it out for the championship. Two teams eating their own.


Clemson is a very good team. They just ran into a healthy Alabama defense. Bama's injured defensive backs were healed.
 
It's a bit of an insult to put two SEC teams in.

4 team playoffs are an insult regardless. It's hardly much different than before. It's still people casting votes and choosing rather than just playing it on the field.
 
4 team playoffs are an insult regardless. It's hardly much different than before. It's still people casting votes and choosing rather than just playing it on the field.

8 teams would be very easy to implement. Have the quarterfinals during the Christmas weekend. But, to be a real tournament, they should go all in and have 16 teams. Play that first week after finals---around Dec 18.
 
8 teams would be very easy to implement. Have the quarterfinals during the Christmas weekend. But, to be a real tournament, they should go all in and have 16 teams. Play that first week after finals---around Dec 18.

I like division II's 28 team playoff. 5 weeks and it's over. 28 to 16 to 8 to 4 to championship. Or a 32 team playoff with no byes still over in 5 weeks. Do away with the conference championship weekend which won't be needed anymore and start the playoffs then instead.
 
I like division II's 28 team playoff. 5 weeks and it's over. 28 to 16 to 8 to 4 to championship.

you'd need 32 to get to 16, unless you allow 4 teams to get a bye. And, that would just put us back where we were, since a bye in football is huge, due to its physicality.
 
you'd need 32 to get to 16, unless you allow 4 teams to get a bye. And, that would just put us back where we were, since a bye in football is huge, due to its physicality.

I edited my post. There is byes in division to so 28 goes to 16. I'm fine with 32 to 16 to 8 to 4 to championship. Do away with the then needless conference championship weekend and you would be over before new years. Or let the championship game rest one weekend and it'll still be over the first week of the new year like it is now.
 
I edited my post. There is byes in division to so 28 goes to 16. I'm fine with 32 to 16 to 8 to 4 to championship. Do away with the then needless conference championship weekend and you would be over before new years. Or let the championship game rest one weekend and it'll still be over the first week of the new year like it is now.

IMO, there are not 32 championship caliber college football teams. There probably aren't 16 either. But, I would argue there are at least 10. So, more than 8, less than 16. That's why I think 16 is perfect.

Also, you can't play games during finals. So, 16 works that way too.
 
Maybe, it is spilled milk now. But one thing I have learned this season is there are biases among the Committee. Go back and look at the numbers. It shows a real bias throughout the year. That is how Clemson gets to be #1 and UCF ends up at #12 undefeated. And lo and behold SEC teams end up with the edge. If anything the committee their point system has been exposed.

I disagree about the biases. I think the committee is doing the best it can with the parameters they are working with. However I do understand the frustration college football fans not in the SEC or ACC fold. I would probably feel the same if two teams outside of the SEC dominated the Championship game year after year after year.
 
4 team playoffs are an insult regardless. It's hardly much different than before. It's still people casting votes and choosing rather than just playing it on the field.

But then College football has always been about coaches and sports writers voting on and deciding rankings. There are just too many colleges and too many levels of football to make an 8 team playoff work any better then a 4 team playoff.
 
8 teams would be very easy to implement. Have the quarterfinals during the Christmas weekend. But, to be a real tournament, they should go all in and have 16 teams. Play that first week after finals---around Dec 18.

Then coaches and fans of those that just barely missed making it into an 8 team playoff would gripe.No matter how it's done, can't please everyone.
 
Then coaches and fans of those that just barely missed making it into an 8 team playoff would gripe.No matter how it's done, can't please everyone.
That's why 16 is ideal. If a team is not in the top 16, stfu, they never stood a chance anyway. I see a scenario where a good team which has a chance would fall to 9 though. 17? Not so much.
 
That's why 16 is ideal. If a team is not in the top 16, stfu, they never stood a chance anyway. I see a scenario where a good team which has a chance would fall to 9 though. 17? Not so much.

16 is too many since it requires three weeks of playoffs. IMHO, 8 is plenty and adds only one more game to the season. Other changes such as limiting out of conference games to 3 (affects SEC and ACC only? - if they do not comply then count the 4th out of conference game as a loss) and automatically enter the 5 "power conference" champions leaving only 3 at large spots for the talking heads to include Alabama and two other "eye test" teams in the fray. No "seeding" should be done - use a random draw to decide playoff match-ups.
 
That's why 16 is ideal. If a team is not in the top 16, stfu, they never stood a chance anyway. I see a scenario where a good team which has a chance would fall to 9 though. 17? Not so much.

Problem is that you can only put these players through so weeks of wear and tear. 12 weeks is hard enough.
 
16 is too many since it requires three weeks of playoffs. IMHO, 8 is plenty and adds only one more game to the season. Other changes such as limiting out of conference games to 3 (affects SEC and ACC only? - if they do not comply then count the 4th out of conference game as a loss) and automatically enter the 5 "power conference" champions leaving only 3 at large spots for the talking heads to include Alabama and two other "eye test" teams in the fray. No "seeding" should be done - use a random draw to decide playoff match-ups.

You can eliminate one week of season games in the conference championships if you have a bigger playoff.
 
Problem is that you can only put these players through so weeks of wear and tear. 12 weeks is hard enough.

Pros play 19---lots of room to grow. ;)
 
You can eliminate one week of season games in the conference championships if you have a bigger playoff.

That would be at the expense of having any conference champions (and why the BIG12 "decided" to add one) - which was an excuse used to let Alabama advance as they sat and watched those games. The real problem is what rules (if any) are used to decide which teams get in - take away conference champions and you have even less rationale. In my scheme each power 5 conference champion gets in - leaving 3 "at large" slots for the talking heads to assign using their Ouija boards. I also want no seeding - simply a random, single elimination, match scheduled among the 8 "best" teams.
 
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And just how does that not coincide with classes? School does not end with the last game of the football season.

First playoff game in my 16 team version plays on the weekend before Christmas, right after finals. Elite 8 is Christmas weekend, final four and the CG is like it is now.
 
That would be at the expense of having any conference champions (and why the BIG12 "decided" to add one) - which was an excuse used to let Alabama advance as they sat and watched those games. The real problem is what rules (if any) are used to decide which teams get in - take away conference champions and you have even less rationale. In my scheme each power 5 conference champion gets in - leaving 3 "at large" slots for the talking heads to assign using their Ouija boards. I also want no seeding - simply a random, single elimination, match scheduled among the 8 "best" teams.

If you have an expanded playoff there won't be near as much need for that last game to squeeze into it like you do now.
 
First playoff game in my 16 team version plays on the weekend before Christmas, right after finals. Elite 8 is Christmas weekend, final four and the CG is like it is now.

What a 24 football team bracket looks like. And #17 in the nation won it in this 2012 bracket.

Season starts at the same time division I starts. 10 game season instead of 12. Playoffs start just after mid November and championship happens mid December. In 2012 it was December 15th.
 
If you have an expanded playoff there won't be near as much need for that last game to squeeze into it like you do now.

That is true in the BIG12 since each team plays every other team in the conference but far from true where that is not the case. Even more necessary where the teams play 4 out of conference (generally home) games (SEC and ACC) and never faced some of the better teams within their own conference.
 
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