12+ million illegal immigrants

[uptower]

There are 12+ million illegal immigrants currently living and working in America.

Do you care?

Not much. The vast majority abide by the law (apart from their immigration status) and are productive contributors to the economy and society. Cultural diversity enriches the country. Plus foreign chicks are hot.

 

[ClaraD]

That isn't what that meant when the 14th Amendment was enacted. OF COURSE anyone within our jurisdiction is subject to our laws, but one the intents of the 14th Amendment was to assure that former slaves AND their children would be treated as United States citizens as they were in fact subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. In other words they were not stateless persons after they were emancipated; they were not automatically in a no mans land not knowing if they were now citizens of the U.S. or citizens of some African nation most were not even still able to know which ones they originated from.

When a Mexican woman plops out a kid on our soil she is still a Mexican citizen--- so her kid should be one too. And the test for that is that if she wants to return to Mexico and take the kid, Mexico considers that child a Mexican citizen who is subject to the jurisdiction (speaking of citizenship jurisdiction) of Mexico. If a diplomat's wife has a child here in the USA is that child automatically a US citizen? No it is not.



Illegal immigrants may be "required to" do many things but most don't follow the laws. The first one of course not come here illegally in the first place. Then after that the almost sickening way many of them steal or fraudulently use social security identification that is not theirs. A felony which SHOULD result in immediate removal and deportation when found out, AND then NEVER being allowed to return or apply for citizenship under any circumstances; a punishment for their fraud.

Now if you want to talk about a foreign national who is willing to serve in the military for lets say at least ten years and then EARN citizenship, then I am okay with that. Sort of the way the French may grant citizenship to those who served in the French foreign legion. I have no issue with someone honorably EARNING citizenship. But stealing it, screw that! Send them home!

And btw, "there ain't no draft no more".

actually, it was precisely what was meant...which is why diplomats and Native American Indians not taxed were excluded.

 

[rickc]

"It's made my goods and services cheaper."

Just let that comment sink in....

The left support slave wages, poor working conditions, pay that falls below a living wage...not for themselves, of course, but for imported workers. The elite liberal class wants their lawns manicured and their Whole Foods well stocked with organic produce, but at cut rate prices.

If the meat packing industry paid a fair wage, plus health benefits, retirement savings, etc, you couldn't afford hamburger. Therefore, the left want open borders. Slave wages and cheap labor with no workplace protections.

Have you noticed the democrats have abandoned the unions in all but lip service? Because they no longer care about laborers, but rather Wall Street investors and bankers. The same bankers Hillary gave her secret speeches to.

The only moral and ethical solution is Legal Immigration, with legit wages, health care, work place safety, training, opportunity for advancement, and a path to citizenship or permanent resident status.

It's time to stop exploiting this vulnerable, and desperate people group for cheap goods and services. Just like it's time we stop supporting slave wages and sweat shops abroad, and bring our manufacturing home.

I believe you have that backwards. I don't know where righties get their information from. I assume rush and sean and the rest of right wing hate media. At any rate their propaganda is very effective. I bet you really believe what you just posted. Quite shocking?

 

[danielpalos]

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. We should have no illegals or illegal underclass with a welfare clause General and a Commerce clause in particular. Only the right wing eschews Capitalism at every capital opportunity when it relates to the general welfare. There is no general warfare clause.

 

[Da Mole]

Well trump claims he knows where they are, if he isablee to discount them when redrawing district lines, so explain why he hasn't picked them up, could it be that trump is full of Chit?

Or does it mean the because of you and your ultra liberal compatriots would continue to screen bloody murder and accuse us all of racism. YOU are the problem not us!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Da Mole]

Abolish nanny-State spending right wingers. There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution and we should have no illegals or illegal underclass.

What a completly ignorant statement. I would bet there is no clause in the constitution that forbids rape or bank robbing so according to your outlandish thinking, both should be ignored.

 

[danielpalos]

Or does it mean the because of you and your ultra liberal compatriots would continue to screen bloody murder and accuse us all of racism. YOU are the problem not us!!!!!!!!!!!

All the right wing has is excuses not solutions. Our welfare clause is general and the right wing alleges to believe in Capitalism for the sake of Commerce.

 

[Casper]

Or does it mean the because of you and your ultra liberal compatriots would continue to screen bloody murder and accuse us all of racism. YOU are the problem not us!!!!!!!!!!!

Please point out where I have ever called you a racist or the GOP.....I'll wait.
FYI, am not an ultra Liberal. Your sling poo just gets a lot of poo on you. Enjoy.

 

[Lfl]

There are 12+ million illegal immigrants currently living and working in America.

Do you care?

 

[jamesrage]

There are 12+ million illegal immigrants currently living and working in America.

Do you care?

Yes they should be deported. As for why Trump doesn't he can't. There are illegal alien testicle lickers in both parties who refuse to allow that to happen. To say its all Trump is ****ing absurd.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes they should be deported. As for why Trump doesn't he can't. There are illegal alien testicle lickers in both parties who refuse to allow that to happen. To say its all Trump is ****ing absurd.

Why so much love for a nanny-State in immigration threads, right wingers?

 

[rickc]

Yes they should be deported. As for why Trump doesn't he can't. There are illegal alien testicle lickers in both parties who refuse to allow that to happen. To say its all Trump is ****ing absurd.

I wonder when the little light bulb will pop on in those dim witted deplorable' s brains and they realize the entire immigration issue for republicans is just a campaign talking point to stir up their redneck base. Republicans have no intention of building a wall or deporting all that hard working illegal cheap labor.

You will be able to tell if they ever get serious about it very easily. When they quit chasing the workers and go after the Americans hiring them. First step is to revise the way the I-9 is handled. We must require employers to verify the documentation and status of the workers they are hiring.

 

[danielpalos]

I wonder when the little light bulb will pop on in those dim witted deplorable' s brains and they realize the entire immigration issue for republicans is just a campaign talking point to stir up their redneck base. Republicans have no intention of building a wall or deporting all that hard working illegal cheap labor.

You will be able to tell if they ever get serious about it very easily. When they quit chasing the workers and go after the Americans hiring them. First step is to revise the way the I-9 is handled. We must require employers to verify the documentation and status of the workers they are hiring.

Unfortunately, bigotry is all they seem to have for foreign policy as well.

 

[Omniscient]

undocumented immigrants keep america afloat

they work jobs nobody wants and pay billions into taxes yet receive no benefits

kicking them out would sink the whole country

 

[danielpalos]

undocumented immigrants keep america afloat

they work jobs nobody wants and pay billions into taxes yet receive no benefits

kicking them out would sink the whole country

The right wing only alleges to be for Capitalism, in socialism threads. Right wingers usually eschew any form of Capitalism in most other threads. There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. We should have no illegals or illegal underclass with a potential six billion person market. Tourism is the first, second, or third largest employer in twenty-nine States.

 

[Vadinho]

Last weekend I spent in Pasadena and San Marino. We drove around the rich peoples houses. This is old money folks, Wrigleys, Huntingtons, Gambles. Every house was a mansion and every yard was immaculate. Now who do you think is keeping all those gorgeous yards so well tended? Yep, you got it. Its like that all across the West. Palm Springs would look like a mess if not for the immigrants. You like a nice golf course? Hire some immigrants. Drove north this morning, fields of strawberries, guess who was tending them? Yep, immigrants. So be careful what you wish for, you might not like the result.

 

[Casper]

There are 12+ million illegal immigrants currently living and working in America.

Do you care?

Does trump care, how about the GOP, the answer is not as simple as many think.

Do I care, as illegal yes, but I would make it far easier to become a long term essential legal worker, we need them and they need us, simple as that.

 

[Bodi]

There are 12+ million illegal immigrants currently living and working in America.

Do you care?

About what?