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1,100 Former Justice Dept. Prosecutors and Officials Press for Barr to Step Down

Tangmo said:
Deserving of reposting bluesmoke if I may say.

Nail : Hammer : Head.

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I have given the link over and over again but like most liberals/progressives you need a fifth grader to help you access the links showing that data. Bluesmoke doesn't have a clue how to format arguments and no understanding of how to even click on a link to get to the data I have posted. Radicals like you are losing elections and cannot admit it. Results matter like the following. Do you people have a fricken clue as to what the components of GDP are and where state and local governments get their money? Stop making fools of yourself and show some pride by admitting when wrong and that you really need help understanding even your own finances

2107 19,918.9 +927.0
2018 20,897.8 +978.9
2019 21734.3 +836.5

Then there is this which Trump inherited and the comparison today. Anyone that claims the GDP growth now is similar to what Obama had is the true hack and totally has no credibility

Unemployment Rate 4.7% January 2017 vs. 3.6% today

Employed 152.2 million January 2017 to 157.9 million today so 6 million job growth from 2008 to 2017(146 million to 152 million) is celebrated but 6.7 million growth I the last two years isn't!! LOL

U-6 in January 2017 9.3% vs 6.9% today? Wow!! 2.4% better U-6 obviously meaningless to you

Part time for economic reasons, 5.7 million January 2017 vs. 4.2 million today? Looks to me that incredible job growth you claim was boosted by part time jobs

African American unemployment 8.0% vs. 6.0% today? That explains the surge in support from African Americans for Trump
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
There has never been any doubt about America's commitment to NATO but there has been about several European countries. It's they who are creating doubt.
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[h=3]Trump Declines to Affirm NATO's Article 5 - The Atlantic[/h]www.theatlantic.com › international › archive › 2017/05 › trump-decl...
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May 25, 2017 - Speaking in front of a 9/11 and Article 5 Memorial at the new NATO headquarters, Trump praised NATO's response to the 9/11 attacks and ...Missing: quote ‎| Must include: quote
 
Jack Hays said:
[h=3]Trump Declines to Affirm NATO's Article 5 - The Atlantic[/h]www.theatlantic.com › international › archive › 2017/05 › trump-decl...
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May 25, 2017 - Speaking in front of a 9/11 and Article 5 Memorial at the new NATO headquarters, Trump praised NATO's response to the 9/11 attacks and ...Missing: quote ‎| Must include: quote
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That's Trump shaking up NATO, and it was much needed. In gesture to Trump, US allies close to deal to pay more for NATO running costs - Reuters
 
Tangmo said:
Deserving of reposting bluesmoke if I may say.

Nail : Hammer : Head.

:)
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You people are probably the more poorly informed and educated regarding the economy than I have ever seen

Apps Test | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

Go to the Gross Domestic Product and what you will find is the following

Obama inherited

14.7 GDP 2008 total GDP

9.98 total Consumer spending

He left us with 12.2 consumer spending

Total 2.3 trillion in 8 YEARS

Trump Current GDP

21.4 trillion

14.6 trillion consumer spending

12.3 trillion inherited

Total 2.3 trillion in 3 YEARS!!!

only in the liberal world is 8 yr consumer spending of 2.3 trillion better than Trump's 2.3 trillion in 3 YEARS!! See why you people have zero credibility???
 
Conservative said:
I have given the link over and over again but like most liberals/progressives you need a fifth grader to help you access the links showing that data. Bluesmoke doesn't have a clue how to format arguments and no understanding of how to even click on a link to get to the data I have posted. Radicals like you are losing elections and cannot admit it. Results matter like the following. Do you people have a fricken clue as to what the components of GDP are and where state and local governments get their money? Stop making fools of yourself and show some pride by admitting when wrong and that you really need help understanding even your own finances

2107 19,918.9 +927.0
2018 20,897.8 +978.9
2019 21734.3 +836.5

Then there is this which Trump inherited and the comparison today. Anyone that claims the GDP growth now is similar to what Obama had is the true hack and totally has no credibility

Unemployment Rate 4.7% January 2017 vs. 3.6% today

Employed 152.2 million January 2017 to 157.9 million today so 6 million job growth from 2008 to 2017(146 million to 152 million) is celebrated but 6.7 million growth I the last two years isn't!! LOL

U-6 in January 2017 9.3% vs 6.9% today? Wow!! 2.4% better U-6 obviously meaningless to you

Part time for economic reasons, 5.7 million January 2017 vs. 4.2 million today? Looks to me that incredible job growth you claim was boosted by part time jobs

African American unemployment 8.0% vs. 6.0% today? That explains the surge in support from African Americans for Trump
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Conservative said:
You people are probably the more poorly informed and educated regarding the economy than I have ever seen

Apps Test | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

Go to the Gross Domestic Product and what you will find is the following

Obama inherited

14.7 GDP 2008 total GDP

9.98 total Consumer spending

He left us with 12.2 consumer spending

Total 2.3 trillion in 8 YEARS

Trump Current GDP

21.4 trillion

14.6 trillion consumer spending

12.3 trillion inherited

Total 2.3 trillion in 3 YEARS!!!

only in the liberal world is 8 yr consumer spending of 2.3 trillion better than Trump's 2.3 trillion in 3 YEARS!! See why you people have zero credibility???
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Start a thread plse thx on Department of Commerce and Department of Labor and Department of B.S. cause this thread ain't it.

It's about a couple of thousand former DOJ attorneys saying Trump's Roy Cohn AG has to go.

You are indeed pretty comfy about Barr-Cohn if you feel no need to defend him as the present commissar of justice.
 
Tangmo said:
Start a thread plse thx on Department of Commerce and Department of Labor and Department of B.S. cause this thread ain't it.

It's about a couple of thousand former DOJ attorneys saying Trump's Roy Cohn AG has to go.

You are indeed pretty comfy about Barr-Cohn if you feel no need to defend him as the present commissar of justice.
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the Thread may not be it but I just answered your post about Bluesmoke looking for the proof that consumer spending under Trump is better than under Obama. Just gave it to you and the link

BEA.gov. is the official source of data coming from Treasury. I understand the pain and suffering you have as you have been lied to for years. You will get over it but need to change rather quickly. I gave you the Treasury data showing consumer spending which again you still want to ignore. What a waste of time
 
Jack Hays said:
He sowed seeds of doubt about Article 5. That strikes at the foundation of the alliance and can't be undone.
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Then, if you are right, what are the ultimate consequences? Will Russia attack the NATO countries?
 
Conservative said:
the Thread may not be it but I just answered your post about Bluesmoke looking for the proof that consumer spending under Trump is better than under Obama. Just gave it to you and the link

BEA.gov. is the official source of data coming from Treasury. I understand the pain and suffering you have as you have been lied to for years. You will get over it but need to change rather quickly. I gave you the Treasury data showing consumer spending which again you still want to ignore. What a waste of time
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We know BEA.gov as the official source of data "coming from Treasury" as you note rather than inform. I forget however how many pages are at the site so kindly remind me plse thx. Then forward your specific references to me so I could examine your claims as a rightwing advocate of a usa political economy that satisfies only the rightwingbaters.

In the meantime you could do the world a favor by addressing the fact that more than a couple of thousand former DOJ attorneys say Trump's Roy Cohn AG Wm. Barr has to go.

You are indeed pretty comfy about Barr-Cohn if you feel no need to defend him as the present commissar of justice.
 
Tangmo said:
We know BEA.gov as the official source of data "coming from Treasury" as you note rather than inform. I forget however how many pages are at the site so kindly remind me plse thx. Then forward your specific references to me so I could examine your claims as a rightwing advocate of a usa political economy that satisfies only the rightwingbaters.

In the meantime you could do the world a favor by addressing the fact that more than a couple of thousand former DOJ attorneys say Trump's Roy Cohn AG Wm. Barr has to go.

You are indeed pretty comfy about Barr-Cohn if you feel no need to defend him as the present commissar of justice.
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I have reminded you by giving you the link to the data used, it is all under in interactive data

Domestic Product and income

National Income and Product Accounts
Publication Category
NIPA Tables
Select a NIPA table to display, view data in XLS or other formats , or use the Keyword Index to the NIPA Tables.

SECTION 1 - DOMESTIC PRODUCT AND INCOME
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For the revenue data use this one Section 3

Table 3.2. Federal Government Current Receipts and Expenditures

As for more than 1000 former justice prosecutors making the claims, what percentage is that of the total prosecutor list? Why is their personal opinions so valuable to you, because they are against Trump? Why exactly are you against Trump, personality trumping actual results?? You seem to want a President who you like and one who tells you what you want to hear. I want a President that generates results and am getting exactly the results I voted for. are you willing to risk those results by voting for one of the Democrats on the ticket, those who would reverse the focus on pro growth and private sector? And if so who and why?
 
Conservative said:
I have reminded you by giving you the link to the data used, it is all under in interactive data

Domestic Product and income



For the revenue data use this one Section 3

Table 3.2. Federal Government Current Receipts and Expenditures

As for more than 1000 former justice prosecutors making the claims, what percentage is that of the total prosecutor list? Why is their personal opinions so valuable to you, because they are against Trump? Why exactly are you against Trump, personality trumping actual results?? You seem to want a President who you like and one who tells you what you want to hear. I want a President that generates results and am getting exactly the results I voted for. are you willing to risk those results by voting for one of the Democrats on the ticket, those who would reverse the focus on pro growth and private sector? And if so who and why?
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That is not a post it is an interrogation for having differing viewpoints and opinions, values, mores and judgements.

No one needs to answer those questions to a political opponent.

Because those are the questions of an interrogator not a partner in a colloquy or discussion. They are questions that are pressed, not presented or pursued. They are questions where the answers are never accepted or acceptable. They are questions that are berated by a guy in uniform wearing an armband. A leather uniform.
 
Tangmo said:
That is not a post it is an interrogation for having differing viewpoints and opinions, values, mores and judgements.

No one needs to answer those questions to a political opponent.

Because those are the questions of an interrogator not a partner in a colloquy or discussion. They are questions that are pressed, not presented or pursued. They are questions where the answers are never accepted or acceptable. They are questions that are berated by a guy in uniform wearing an armband. A leather uniform.
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Give me a fricken break, you don't want the data which is the official data from TREASURY!! Why don't you stop with the bull**** and tell us exactly what you want from a President because obviously results we are generating isn't it?
 
W_Heisenberg said:
1,100 Former Justice Dept. Lawyers Press for Barr to Step Down - The New York Times

Former Justice Dept. Lawyers Press for Barr to Step Down

More than 1,100 former prosecutors and officials who served in Republican and Democratic administrations signed an open letter condemning the president and the attorney general over the Stone case.

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This is the ugly truth: Trump and Barr are authoritarians who do not believe in the Rule of Law. They both must be removed from office as soon as practically possible.
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Nobody cares. Bill Barr hasn't done anything to break a law, he just pisses off liberals/democrats.
 
Conservative said:
Give me a fricken break, you don't want the data which is the official data from TREASURY!! Why don't you stop with the bull**** and tell us exactly what you want from a President because obviously results we are generating isn't it?
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Wm. Barr is Trump's Roy Cohn and you can't deal with the fact.

While it is encouraging that you hide from acknowledging and admitting it, ie, you see the wrong in it, you're nonetheless trashing people's time and energies by banging repeatedly on your themes of political economy (although you've never used the term). Your posts have become rants and interrogations. Your refusal to accept I am a capitalist while you accuse me and others of being the opposite betrays your irrationality and imbalance at the thread and topic. You don't only question you pursue and try to berate and do it repeatedly, relentlessly, interminably. I will continue to reply to your posts in this vein indefinitely, ie, for as long as you're pressing your driven irrationality in one way or another.
 
Tangmo said:
Wm. Barr is Trump's Roy Cohn and you can't deal with the fact.

While it is encouraging that you hide from acknowledging and admitting it, ie, you see the wrong in it, you're nonetheless trashing people's time and energies by banging repeatedly on your themes of political economy (although you've never used the term). Your posts have become rants and interrogations. Your refusal to accept I am a capitalist while you accuse me and others of being the opposite betrays your irrationality and imbalance at the thread and topic. You don't only question you pursue and try to berate and do it repeatedly, relentlessly, interminably. I will continue to reply to your posts in this vein indefinitely, ie, for as long as you're pressing your driven irrationality in one way or another.
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Barr is part of the Trump administration and serving at the "pleasure of the President" you don't seem to be able to grasp that concept.
 
Conservative said:
Barr is part of the Trump administration and serving at the "pleasure of the President" you don't seem to be able to grasp that concept.
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You post minimalist knowledge that is common and ordinary while failing to recognize virtually any poster would possess it.

Which also means you don't care Wm. Barr is Trump's Roy Cohn as AG of USA.

You're pretending to be shameless while what I see is a shameful person full of avoidance.
 
Tangmo said:
You post minimalist knowledge that is common and ordinary while failing to recognize virtually any poster would possess it.

Which also means you don't care Wm. Barr is Trump's Roy Cohn as AG of USA.

You're pretending to be shameless while what I see is a shameful person full of avoidance.
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Do you have anything of value to offer this discussion? Keep avoiding reality and keep promoting the failed ideology and basic understanding of civics. Barr is a member of the President's cabinet and works at the pleasure of the President. What is it about liberalism that creates this ignorance and loyalty?
 
Conservative said:
Do you have anything of value to offer this discussion? Keep avoiding reality and keep promoting the failed ideology and basic understanding of civics. Barr is a member of the President's cabinet and works at the pleasure of the President. What is it about liberalism that creates this ignorance and loyalty?
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I mentioned Roy Cohn and you did not.

Again.

My only question is whether those who accept Barr as Trump's Roy Cohn do it shamlessly or shamefully.
 
dairyair said:
Some that have left have served the country and gov't for most of their adult lives. Military to desk jobs. Under several administrations, D and R.
Don't give me baloney about undermining.

They are likely undermining, because the doofus in office has no clue what he's doing. And only want's yes yes yes people serving. It is a bad thing for this country.

Why is it so many associated with his campaign or admin have gone to jail?
Why was he impeached. And no, not just partisanship. There was real concern about his bribing a foreign gov't for personal gain.
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What were the "crimes" by which the witch hunters in the lynch mobs convicted the Trump Associates?

If you would check, you would find that none of them had anything to do with anything outside of perjury traps or actions taken that were unrelated to Trump.

Why do the Never-Trumpers like you ALWAYS tell half truths and strut around like their lies are not lies? It's a mystery to me.

While all of this is going on, Trump is posting one success after another that ALL serve to improve the lot for the American People: ALL Americans.

More Americans working at the highest wage rates accruing the most wealth in the history of the Republic ever. EVER! Never been better for us individually or as a whole population. EVER!

For the first time in a long time, the bottom end of the wage scale is rising more quickly than the top end. Another injustice from the Obama era being corrected!

In the mean time, short sighted haters blinded by the lies of short sighted hating partisan hacks repeat unfounded lies and seem to be proud that they are utterly misinformed and are also ignorant of the fact they they are so stupid.

Maybe you can explain why the short sighted, misinformed haters that are absolutely certain of things that don't exist holds these beliefs.

Why do you cling so bitterly to fantasies rejecting real world truth?




[h=1]“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”[/h]
― Ronald Reagan
 
Tangmo said:
I mentioned Roy Cohn and you did not.

Again.

My only question is whether those who accept Barr as Trump's Roy Cohn do it shamlessly or shamefully.
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My only question is why the 24/7 Trump bashing and refusal to discuss the issues? You have a very selective memory choosing what you want to address. Think the Average American even knows how Roy Cohn is and why would the McCarthy hearings have any bearing here? Being a progressive means you run from the issues and participate only in the politics of personal destruction none of which wins support as the Trump approval ratings continue to rise. wait until you get your socialist on the ballot!
 
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