► On How Many Counts will Paul Manafort be Found Guilty in Virginia? [Poll Included]

[Chomsky]

After 3 weeks of legal proceedings in Alexandria Virginia, the jury in Paul Manafort's trial has been deliberating for 3 days.

Mr. Manafort is charged with 18 counts.

How many counts do you believe will be returned with a verdict of 'guilty'?

Pick your numbers, ladies and gentleman. Side bets are encouraged!

 

[Chomsky]

And I went with 5-8.

I think 4-5 at minimum.

 

[Grim17]

I went with 1-4..


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[Rexedgar]

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What's the over/under? I took some guff for a poll as to when the jury would reach a verdict, started last week. What I want to know is does Manafort get out on his bail after the verdict does back as guilty?

 

[Atheist 2020]

And I went with 5-8.

I think 4-5 at minimum.

I like to see all 18, but, anything over 10 years or more is a life sentence for a already old man.

 

[Cardinal]

After 3 weeks of legal proceedings in Alexandria Virginia, the jury in Paul Manafort's trial has been deliberating for 3 days.

Mr. Manafort is charged with 18 counts.

How many counts do you believe will be returned with a verdict of 'guilty'?

Pick your numbers, ladies and gentleman. Side bets are encouraged!

If there is even one trump supporter on the jury, zero. If there isn't, then about 9-12.

 

[NeverTrump]

If there is even one trump supporter on the jury, zero. If there isn't, then about 9-12.

That's my guess too. I think the Swamp supporters have utterly failed in their jury "duty". Wouldn't you?

I mean how ignorant do you have to be to not realize what he did? Although, I understand that most Americans have no clue what White Collar crime actually is.

 

[upsideguy]

If there is even one trump supporter on the jury, zero. If there isn't, then about 9-12.

A sad commentary to think that politics have corrupted the jury system..... I am not saying you are wrong, I am just "appreciating" just how far the American judicial system has fallen. We are a third world nation.

 

[Cardinal]

That's my guess too. I think the Swamp supporters have utterly failed in their jury "duty". Wouldn't you?

I mean how ignorant do you have to be to not realize what he did? Although, I understand that most Americans have no clue what White Collar crime actually is.

It ain't ignorance.

 

[Parrish]

I'm saying 14, maybe 15. FinCen has it's stuff together.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I dont have enough information to participate in the poll but I do think that Mueller is squirming.

And I like it.

 

[Chomsky]

If there is even one trump supporter on the jury, zero. If there isn't, then about 9-12.

You know, I was thinking of this when I started the poll. But I kept it "single choice".

In retrospect I could have added an "other" option. But I kinda' wanted to lock the responders into a hard choice. Sometimes we've just got to have the balls to lay it on the line, right? So welcome to my poll!

 

[Cardinal]

You know, I was thinking of this when I started the poll. But I kept it "single choice".

In retrospect I could have added an "other" option. But I kinda' wanted to lock the responders into a hard choice. Sometimes we've just got to have the balls to lay it on the line, right? So welcome to my poll!

Sorry, but your poll doesn't take the unique trump-supporter mindset into account, which, like it or not, we're dealing with.

 

[DiAnna]

Sorry, but your poll doesn't take the unique trump-supporter mindset into account, which, like it or not, we're dealing with.

That's the thing. The evidence was overwhelming. However, Trump has been publicly tampering with the jury, knowing that with his solid 30% voter base, odds are 3-4 of those jurors are in his pocket. Three days, nearly 24 hours of deliberation? If I'm Manafort's defense lawyer, I'm ecstatically optimistic!

 

[Linc]

After 3 weeks of legal proceedings in Alexandria Virginia, the jury in Paul Manafort's trial has been deliberating for 3 days.

Mr. Manafort is charged with 18 counts.

How many counts do you believe will be returned with a verdict of 'guilty'?

Pick your numbers, ladies and gentleman. Side bets are encouraged!

The 2010 GOPs who came to DC to burn it down have burned it down. (My Better Half and I Still Imagine Alexandria. Man will always War.)

My only links to the USA’s crumbling infrastructure grid for a few days are iPhone and XMSirius Car Radio. It’s long sleeve/sweatshirt tonight, and pressure gradient pains.

The defendants in the #45 criminal trials get to smear some of the most Honorable People who have ever Served this Ungrateful Nation.

Meanwhile, the LIARS accuse Patriots of leaking, which they can’t. Trial in public BY the Traitors.

McConnell remains our Greatest Evil.

 

[Beaudreaux]

And I went with 5-8.

I think 4-5 at minimum.

I voted what I hope for, not what I think may actually happen.

 

[Chomsky]

Sorry, but your poll doesn't take the unique trump-supporter mindset into account, which, like it or not, we're dealing with.

"Zero" was an option, Cardinal.

I'm reasonably happy forcing a hard choice.

For example:

"Do you believe it's more likely there's a Trumper that will blow-up the deliberation process? Or do you believe it's more likely the jury will resolve to providing deliberated verdicts, ostensibly with some number of counts being 'guilty'"?

That was what I was hoping to see resolved amongst the poll respondents: Make your most likely choice, and then feel free to argue predicates and counter-point in the thread.

 

[Logician Man]

That's the thing. The evidence was overwhelming. However, Trump has been publicly tampering with the jury, knowing that with his solid 30% voter base, odds are 3-4 of those jurors are in his pocket. Three days, nearly 24 hours of deliberation? If I'm Manafort's defense lawyer, I'm ecstatically optimistic!

Isn't it against the law for a sitting Prez to make public comments about other's trials?

 

[DiAnna]

Isn't it against the law for a sitting Prez to make public comments about other's trials?

I'm not a lawyer, but apparently not. It is, however, against historical precedent set by every other sitting president in my lifetime.

 

[Chomsky]

That's the thing. The evidence was overwhelming. However, Trump has been publicly tampering with the jury, knowing that with his solid 30% voter base, odds are 3-4 of those jurors are in his pocket. Three days, nearly 24 hours of deliberation? If I'm Manafort's defense lawyer, I'm ecstatically optimistic!

Yes, time equates heightened optimism on the defense.

But there's a huge ton of documentation and transcripts to review and match-up. Friday, the jury asked for assistance in matching-up the documentation, along with a larger room to facilitate their document handling.

I don't see 3 days as long at all, and by their questions it seems this jury is doing a deliberate job. If so, there's no way Manafort walks. The documentation alone, is enough for multiple guilty verdicts.

 

[Logician Man]

I dont have enough information to participate in the poll but I do think that Mueller is squirming.

And I like it.

Why would Mueller be squirming?...He's the man with the noose...not the men/man/women who may very well hang from the noose.

 

[DiAnna]

Yes, time equates heightened optimism on the defense.

But there's a huge ton of documentation and transcripts to review and match-up. Friday, the jury asked for assistance in matching-up the documentation, along with a larger room to facilitate their document handling.

I don't see 3 days as long at all, and by their questions it seems this jury is doing a deliberate job. If so, there's no way Manafort walks. The documentation alone, is enough for multiple guilty verdicts.

That makes sense, and you are most likely correct. Or at least I certainly hope you are, lol.

 

[Chomsky]

I voted what I hope for, not what I think may actually happen.

Care to share both?

 

[Logician Man]

Yes, time equates heightened optimism on the defense.

But there's a huge ton of documentation and transcripts to review and match-up. Friday, the jury asked for assistance in matching-up the documentation, along with a larger room to facilitate their document handling.

I don't see 3 days as long at all, and by their questions it seems this jury is doing a deliberate job. If so, there's no way Manafort walks. The documentation alone, is enough for multiple guilty verdicts.

Wouldn't he be re-tried if there is a hung jury?

 

[Logician Man]

I'm not a lawyer, but apparently not. It is, however, against historical precedent set by every other sitting president in my lifetime.

Thanks Di