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PoS said:
I made a vow to myself that if I ever get a terminal illness that would put me in constant pain, or be so old that I have to use diapers again, then I'll blow my brains out. :cool:
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Red:
Well, you better come up with a different plan. If you make it to your late 80s or 90s, you'll almost certainly suffer from some measure of incontinence, be it the "just couldn't get there in time" form or "leaking" thus, at that age, militating for you to wear diapers, if only "just in case" rather than because you've got no more control than a bird. When that time arrives, it'll be unlikely folks in your life allow you anywhere near a gun or explosives. I'm just saying...you may want to formulate a "plan B."
 
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On the sleep thing, my Dad is 88 and sleeps about 10 hours a night...his doc told him that's too much, 8 hours or less...I told my Dad his doc is crazy and don't know his butt from a hole in the ground, sleep as much as you wanna...I think his sleep pattern has contributed to his long life...
 
Elvira said:
On the sleep thing, my Dad is 88 and sleeps about 10 hours a night...his doc told him that's too much, 8 hours or less...I told my Dad his doc is crazy and don't know his butt from a hole in the ground, sleep as much as you wanna...I think his sleep pattern has contributed to his long life...
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Red:
Your medical training and experience as a medical professional that legitimates your refutation of your dad's doctor's conclusion is what?
Surely you are a psychologist/psychiatrist, certified sleep medicine specialist, otolaryngologist, anesthesiologist, gerontologist, neurologist, or some other medical professional? I know you wouldn't want to give your dad what is but your abductively arrived at conclusion that refutes research into the matter.

It's one thing to be skeptical of what a doctor says. It's wholly another to declare the doctor crazy and unable to distinguish between "his butt and a hold in the ground." Skepticism is reasonable to have; however, declarations such as your "red" one hold no credibility when made sans portfolio.
 
Xelor said:
Red:
Your medical training and experience as a medical professional that legitimates your refutation of your dad's doctor's conclusion is what?
Surely you are a psychologist/psychiatrist, certified sleep medicine specialist, otolaryngologist, anesthesiologist, gerontologist, neurologist, or some other medical professional? I know you wouldn't want to give your dad what is but your abductively arrived at conclusion that refutes research into the matter.

It's one thing to be skeptical of what a doctor says. It's wholly another to declare the doctor crazy and unable to distinguish between "his butt and a hold in the ground." Skepticism is reasonable to have; however, declarations such as your "red" one hold no credibility when made sans portfolio.
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lol...remove the stick from your butt...my Dad is 88, he's entitled to do whatever he wants to do...
 
Elvira said:
On the sleep thing, my Dad is 88 and sleeps about 10 hours a night...his doc told him that's too much, 8 hours or less...I told my Dad his doc is crazy and don't know his butt from a hole in the ground, sleep as much as you wanna...I think his sleep pattern has contributed to his long life...

Xelor said:
Red:
Your medical training and experience as a medical professional that legitimates your refutation of your dad's doctor's conclusion is what?
Surely you are a psychologist/psychiatrist, certified sleep medicine specialist, otolaryngologist, anesthesiologist, gerontologist, neurologist, or some other medical professional? I know you wouldn't want to give your dad what is but your abductively arrived at conclusion that refutes research into the matter.

It's one thing to be skeptical of what a doctor says. It's wholly another to declare the doctor crazy and unable to distinguish between "his butt and a hold in the ground." Skepticism is reasonable to have; however, declarations such as your "red" one hold no credibility when made sans portfolio.

Elvira said:
lol...remove the stick from your butt...my Dad is 88, he's entitled to do whatever he wants to do...
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Blue:

  1. Does your dad engage doctors to provide guidance regarding to what he's entitled?
  2. Your dad's doctor said your dad sleeping 10 hours a night is too much because he knows, based on findings such as those noted in the above referenced documents, that much sleep is most probably indicative of something being amiss. Your dad can take that input and either (1) pursue a diagnostic regimen to determine what's amis and do something about it, if something can be done about it, or (2) decide he doesn't give a damn and do nothing.

    Your "red" statement to your dad implies you've summarily decided you don't give enough of a damn to want to know what may be amiss and whether anything can be done about it. That is what it is; he's your dad, not mine, so I don't have a normative stance on your being of that mind. I can say that were it my parent, I wouldn't so cavalierly as your "red" statement indicates dismiss the doctor's professional input.
  3. Doctors don't deliver medical advice based on normative notions about entitlement, but they will do is acquiesce to one's own decisions in that regard. The thing is they know damn well one doesn't need their input to determine to what one is entitled (in the sense you've used the word).
  4. Everyone is entitled, at every stage of adulthood, to do whatever "X or Y" they want to do. Whether doing "X or Y" is physiologically fitting, indicative of something detrimental, deleterious to one's health, etc. is a wholly different matter, and it's the matter upon which doctors provide their professional input.


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Statement 1:​
"My 88-year-old dad sleeps ~10 hours a night, and his doctor informed us that's too much. Dad decided he doesn't care what health issues doing so entail or indicate; he's going to sleep as he sees fit."​

Statement 2:​
My 88-year-old dad sleeps ~10 hours a night, and his doctor informed us that's too much. Despite having no medical training or experience, I've decided, on account of his having said 10 hours a night is too much, the doctor is an idiot."
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The substance of "statement 1" isn't what you wrote; however, the substance of "statement 2," particularly in light of your abstaining from asserting you have material medical training, is what your first post above declares.


Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
-- Martin Luther King Jr.​
 
Xelor said:
Blue:

  1. Does your dad engage doctors to provide guidance regarding to what he's entitled?
  2. Your dad's doctor said your dad sleeping 10 hours a night is too much because he knows, based on findings such as those noted in the above referenced documents, that much sleep is most probably indicative of something being amiss. Your dad can take that input and either (1) pursue a diagnostic regimen to determine what's amis and do something about it, if something can be done about it, or (2) decide he doesn't give a damn and do nothing.

    Your "red" statement to your dad implies you've summarily decided you don't give enough of a damn to want to know what may be amiss and whether anything can be done about it. That is what it is; he's your dad, not mine, so I don't have a normative stance on your being of that mind. I can say that were it my parent, I wouldn't so cavalierly as your "red" statement indicates dismiss the doctor's professional input.
  3. Doctors don't deliver medical advice based on normative notions about entitlement, but they will do is acquiesce to one's own decisions in that regard. The thing is they know damn well one doesn't need their input to determine to what one is entitled (in the sense you've used the word).
  4. Everyone is entitled, at every stage of adulthood, to do whatever "X or Y" they want to do. Whether doing "X or Y" is physiologically fitting, indicative of something detrimental, deleterious to one's health, etc. is a wholly different matter, and it's the matter upon which doctors provide their professional input.


Other:
Statement 1:​
"My 88-year-old dad sleeps ~10 hours a night, and his doctor informed us that's too much. Dad decided he doesn't care what health issues doing so entail or indicate; he's going to sleep as he sees fit."​

Statement 2:​
My 88-year-old dad sleeps ~10 hours a night, and his doctor informed us that's too much. Despite having no medical training or experience, I've decided, on account of his having said 10 hours a night is too much, the doctor is an idiot."
​

The substance of "statement 1" isn't what you wrote; however, the substance of "statement 2," particularly in light of your abstaining from asserting you have material medical training, is what your first post above declares.


Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
-- Martin Luther King Jr.​
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Nothing in the world is more dangerous than self absorbed arrogant cockiness...Elvira...
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I'm sixty-two now, smoked since I was fourteen, never drink (except maybe once a year) I am about thirty pounds overweight and have Type 2 diabetes, but I get a wee bit of moderate exercise and I get lots of sleep.
I recently quit smoking, but I am pretty sure the damage was done a long time ago.
It says I have about 16 healthy years left but I disagree. I doubt I will be here ten years from now.
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Try eating foods that are high in anti-oxidants (like blackberry, citrus fruits etc). They undo the damage of smoking.
 
Wan said:
Try eating foods that are high in anti-oxidants (like blackberry, citrus fruits etc). They undo the damage of smoking.
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No no, that would interfere with my strict diet of matzohs and wine made from the blood of white gentile children.
Also, it would stunt the growth of my horns.

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I've seen people like my father do everything right and have everything go wrong. And others eat, drink, smoke and party like tomorrow and still come out ok. The odds are usually for those who try though. Teetotalers seem healthier and happier overall.

I'm more interested in a quality existence than mere longevity.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
No no, that would interfere with my strict diet of matzohs and wine made from the blood of white gentile children.
Also, it would stunt the growth of my horns.

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I gotta say, that made me laugh.

And just for the record, I don't truly "hate" Jews. There are some that do bad things, those in powerful positions, but even with these Jews I don't wish for anything truly horrific to happen to them. As for regular Jews (you are probably one of them), who just want to go about their lives and be left alone, I have zero problems with. In fact, I enjoy reading your posts from time to time.
 
Wan said:
As for regular Jews (you are probably one of them), who just want to go about their lives and be left alone, I have zero problems with.
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My paternal grandfather was the banker to the Rothschild family in Germany. To you, that means I am the spawn of the most evil Jews imaginable, the ones that control the New World Order and the Illuminati.
You should probably get out your copy of The Protocols and read through it some right now.

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Checkerboard Strangler said:
My paternal grandfather was the banker to the Rothschild family in Germany. To you, that means I am the spawn of the most evil Jews imaginable, the ones that control the New World Order and the Illuminati.
You should probably get out your copy of The Protocols and read through it some right now.

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That thing could cause seizures for some people...:2razz:
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
My paternal grandfather was the banker to the Rothschild family in Germany. To you, that means I am the spawn of the most evil Jews imaginable, the ones that control the New World Order and the Illuminati.
You should probably get out your copy of The Protocols and read through it some right now.
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Have you (or any Jew) ever stopped for one second to think about why there is antisemitism? Is it that there is something wrong with everybody else in the world, or is there something wrong with Jews?
 
Wan said:
Have you (or any Jew) ever stopped for one second to think about why there is antisemitism? Is it that there is something wrong with everybody else in the world, or is there something wrong with Jews?
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Your prejudice is showing...:roll:
 
Wan said:
Have you (or any Jew) ever stopped for one second to think about why there is antisemitism? Is it that there is something wrong with everybody else in the world, or is there something wrong with Jews?
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There's something wrong with a small paranoid insecure faction of people who have no moral rudder or spiritual compass.
Human nature being cyclical as it is, every so often our number comes up. When it's not our number, it's another minority group instead.

And every so often these cycles converge, as they are right now. We're not only witnessing antisemitism, we're also witnessing a great deal of xenophobia and bigotry against black people, hispanics, gay people, arabs of the muslim faith* and for extra fun, people with liberal political values are being thrown into the mix as well.

*note that I said ARABS of the muslim faith, because I'd bet money that a white skinned muslim from one of the eastern euro countries or India can sneak in under the radar...because they already have.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
And every so often these cycles converge, as they are right now. We're not only witnessing antisemitism, we're also witnessing a great deal of xenophobia and bigotry against black people, hispanics, gay people, arabs of the muslim faith* and for extra fun, people with liberal political values are being thrown into the mix as well.
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Maybe these feelings are normal. Of these groups you mentioned, I especially hate liberals. Now I don't "hate" jews per se but I really really hate liberals.
 
Wan said:
Maybe these feelings are normal. Of these groups you mentioned, I especially hate liberals. Now I don't "hate" jews per se but I really really hate liberals.
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And there isn't a ****ing thing you can do about my existence.
 
grip said:
I've seen people like my father do everything right and have everything go wrong. And others eat, drink, smoke and party like tomorrow and still come out ok. The odds are usually for those who try though. Teetotalers seem healthier and happier overall.

I'm more interested in a quality existence than mere longevity.
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Red:
Although there are folks for whom that is their reality, those folks are exceptions to the rule. Now one can glibly flout the rule's very existence if one so desires; however, one's heavily pressing one's luck by doing so. Nobody with any sense "spits" in the face of norms and, having habitually done so, expects to be the exceptional person whom the Moirae yet look favorably.
 
Xelor said:
Red:
Although there are folks for whom that is their reality, those folks are exceptions to the rule. Now one can glibly flout the rule's very existence if one so desires; however, one's heavily pressing one's luck by doing so. Nobody with any sense "spits" in the face of norms and, having habitually done so, expects to be the exceptional person whom the Moirae yet look favorably.
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If you've spoken too me as Redress that's way above my pay grade. He's one of the smartest people I've read.

I agree, the norms are still above reproach.
 
grip said:
If you've spoken too me as Redress that's way above my pay grade. He's one of the smartest people I've read.

I agree, the norms are still above reproach.
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Red:
Who is Redress?
 
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