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Not one technology came out of 'academic science'

Palandro said:
Yes, there is not one technology that came out of 'academic science'. ALL, yes all technologies were invented
before 'academic science' 'had".
An example is the transistor. 'Academic Science' tells us the transistor is here because of quantum mechanics ( qm is bollocks by the way!). Nothing could be further from the truth.
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What a painfully moronic lie. The only person saying "the transistor is here because of quantum mechanics" is you.

Palandro said:
The transistor was invented before quantum mechanics, And so it is with a whole lot of other inventions.
In reality 'academic science' simply can't deliver because the theories are very very wrong.
So, let's face it, people in 'academic science', 'scientists' have only a job to get them off the streets and earn some money to be able to buy some food. That's it. Nothing more.
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Yes, many things were invented before quantum mechanics. Brilliant observation.



I don't know what this babble is but I would prefer not to see any more of it.
 
Palandro said:
No? I did wrote about the transistor, Right? Made before the quantum mechanics bollocks.
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That transistor was the size of a small Folgers coffee can. Yes it was invented in Bell Laboratories in 1947. The fact that you can now get billions of them on a chip the size of your thumbnail might have something to do with academics. I'm not sure that I can do nanometer construction in my garage right now. Maybe next week.
 
longview said:
This happened in my example of the Bell Labs Transistor, .
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I showed you it didn't.
Academic science is actually obsolete,
And I wont go to far into that now, but the whole of 'education' is actually set up to make people more
dumb (dumbing down), more stupid and less creative. Hence the longer one is in the 'education' system the dumber one becomes.
Who are the people the longest in the 'education'system? Wel, scientists of course.
Just another reason why 'academic science' really can't deliver.
The theories are extremely flawed, and the people , the 'scientist' aren't really the brightest people on earth, to put it mildly.
If the one causes the other remains to be seen.
 
d0gbreath said:
That transistor was the size of a small Folgers coffee can. Yes it was invented in Bell Laboratories in 1947. The fact that you can now get billions of them on a chip the size of your thumbnail might have something to do with academics. I'm not sure that I can do nanometer construction in my garage right now. Maybe next week.
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Wel, the IC concept was also known long before the dumb scientist treid to take credit for something they didn't have anything to do with.and no the transistor was NOT invented in 1947 in Bell labaroties. see my above postings.
 
Graphene.
Invented in a university and is set to become pretty important.

I hear MIT may have invented the odd thingamajig as well now and then or was that just liberal wishful thinking?
The UK has plenty of Universities with massive medical research labs that have come up with some funky stuff down the years.
 
This nonsense should be in Conspiracy.
 
Palandro said:
Yes, there is not one technology that came out of 'academic science'. ALL, yes all technologies were invented
before 'academic science' 'had".
An example is the transistor. 'Academic Science' tells us the transistor is here because of quantum mechanics ( qm is bollocks by the way!). Nothing could be further from the truth.
The transistor was invented before quantum mechanics, And so it is with a whole lot of other inventions.
In reality 'academic science' simply can't deliver because the theories are very very wrong.
So, let's face it, people in 'academic science', 'scientists' have only a job to get them off the streets and earn some money to be able to buy some food. That's it. Nothing more.
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Are you trying to position yourself for a run at the presidency for the gop in 2024?
 
Rogue Valley said:
This nonsense should be in Conspiracy.
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What exactly is nonsense and why is it nonsense? And why should this be in "conspiracy"

Did I wrote something you won't like? Have I hurt your feelings? Isn't this a free speach zone?
 
Palandro said:
If you knew and have read my other thread you would know the answer. ;)
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You have twenty seven posts and may I suggest you stop there? No, I didn't read your other post, thankfully.
 
bongsaway said:
You have twenty seven posts and may I suggest you stop there? No, I didn't read your other post, thankfully.
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Suggest all you want, but I won't.
Maybe you can stop reding this thread as well?! ;)
 
blarg said:
wouldn't quantum mechanic have always existed but its nature only discovered until after the transistor?
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Well, QM itself is bollocks of course. so ...no.

we had fire before we had the concept of oxidation and the atomic elements are those made up to?
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Fair enough. I should have written 'academic science' after 1929-1930.
So I am referring to "modern' "academic science"'.
 
Mr Person said:
What a painfully moronic lie. The only person saying "the transistor is here because of quantum mechanics" is you.
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Really?

Without quantum mechanics there would be no transistor, and hence no personal computer; no laser, and hence no Blu-ray players. James Kakalios, a physics professor at the University of Minnesota, wants people to understand how much quantum mechanics influences our everyday lives
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quantum mechanics - Was the understanding of QM fundamental to the creation of transistors and silicon semiconductors? - Physics Stack Exchange

Behind this revolution in technology stands an even greater revolution in general science: the field of quantum physics. Without this leap in understanding the natural world, the development of semiconductor devices (and more advanced electronic devices still under development) would never have been possible
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Quantum Physics | Solid-state Device Theory | Electronics Textbook


Well, the transistor was definitely invented before there was quantum mechanic bollocks.
The 'science' textbooks are, as have always been, full of lies.
 
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Palandro said:
Yes, there is not one technology that came out of 'academic science'. ALL, yes all technologies were invented
before 'academic science' 'had".
An example is the transistor. 'Academic Science' tells us the transistor is here because of quantum mechanics ( qm is bollocks by the way!). Nothing could be further from the truth.
The transistor was invented before quantum mechanics, And so it is with a whole lot of other inventions.
In reality 'academic science' simply can't deliver because the theories are very very wrong.
So, let's face it, people in 'academic science', 'scientists' have only a job to get them off the streets and earn some money to be able to buy some food. That's it. Nothing more.
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It's clear you haven't exactly thought this through. The individual inventors were educated in academia. They attended universities to learn what they needed to advance their ideas. It would appear that your inability to comprehend the science is probably at the root of your disdain for scientists.

Did you flunk science in school?
 
Mr Person said:
I don't know what this babble is but I would prefer not to see any more of it.
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So much entitlement and arrogance for someone who willingly and intentionally clicked on a link, opened a thread, then proceeded to take a **** in the room before declaring superiority. :lamo
 
Schism said:
So much entitlement and arrogance for someone who willingly and intentionally clicked on a link, opened a thread, then proceeded to take a **** in the room before declaring superiority. :lamo
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I am not surprised you think his post was insightful. But then, we both know the reason you responded to that post.

:2wave:
 
Mr Person said:
I am not surprised you think his post was insightful. But then, we both know the reason you responded to that post.
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I don't agree with the OP at all. I grew up in the Bell System, which at one time was like family, and spent almost 30 years in telecommunications which became IT. I was about to click out when I read a really arrogant and unnecesary post by someone who feels the need to flex their all-self-important superior intellect wherever they leave a dump. I think an appropriate response for an asshat of that caliber is go **** yourself. But I already know they do.
 
MamboDervish said:
It's clear you haven't exactly thought this through. The individual inventors were educated in academia. They attended universities to learn what they needed to advance their ideas. It would appear that your inability to comprehend the science is probably at the root of your disdain for scientists.

Did you flunk science in school?
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"They attended universities to learn what they needed to advance their ideas"7

Nope, just do some research. This is just a rationalisation, and nothing more.
Why do people try to defend the indefendable?

Inability to comprehend 'science'? Really? Alas, I have done two studies. Phys/Math & clinical psychology.
But you do understand this is just a cheap personal attack (Ad Hominem)and not adressing anything?

Did I flunk 'science' in school?
No, but it would be better if I had.
But you do understand this is just a cheap personal attack (Ad Hominem)and not adressing anything?


;)
 
Schism said:
I don't agree with the OP at all. I grew up in the Bell System, which at one time was like family, and spent almost 30 years in telecommunications which became IT. I was about to click out when I read a really arrogant and unnecesary post by someone who feels the need to flex their all-self-important superior intellect wherever they leave a dump. I think an appropriate response for an asshat of that caliber is go **** yourself. But I already know they do.
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who cares if you disagree?


"I read a really arrogant and unnecesary post by someone who feels the need to flex their all-self-important superior intellect wherever they leave a dump."

That's funny. I am ONLY stating facts. It doesn't make me feel superior or whatever in any way. Why should it? Therefore it makes me thinking that you must be projecting of some kind of sorts? The truth can stand on it's own.
But I must write something you don't like. So be it. We may express freely, including you. ;)


It is still true, EVERYTHING, technologywise, that supposedly came out of modern 'academic science", didn't come out of 'academic science' at all. It is ALL invented and created before "academic science' claimed it was because of them.
And as I have written before, it couldn't come out of "modern science'', simply, because the theories in 'academic science' are deeply deeply flawed ( talking about physics now).

"Academic science" is here at the moment only to keep some people from the streets and have some food on the table. Nothing more.But it is a pity that it is paid by tax payers,
 
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Palandro said:
"They attended universities to learn what they needed to advance their ideas"7

Nope, just do some research. This is just a rationalisation, and nothing more.
Why do people try to defend the indefendable?

Inability to comprehend 'science'? Really? Alas, I have done two studies. Phys/Math & clinical psychology.
But you do understand this is just a cheap personal attack (Ad Hominem)and not adressing anything?

Did I flunk 'science' in school?
No, but it would be better if I had.
But you do understand this is just a cheap personal attack (Ad Hominem)and not adressing anything?


;)
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Cheap? No. The question has little or no value either way. It was meant to create introspection. Your premise is transparently flawed, if for no other reason than the fact that what it proffers is not even knowable. Neither you, nor anyone else, could possibly know if "not one technology came out of 'academic science'.

So I wondered if you had flunked science. Considering the premise, I thought it was a fair question.

* It's worth stating that the idea of flunking any course of study isn't something I make a value judgement of. Most human beings have "flunked" some academic endeavor or other. Even Einstein, I've read, flunked some course studies.
 
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MamboDervish said:
Cheap? No. The question has little or no value either way. It was meant to create introspection. Your premise is transparently flawed, if for no other reason than the fact that what it proffers is not even knowable. Neither you, nor anyone else, could possibly know if "not one technology came out of 'academic science'.

So I wondered if you had flunked science. Considering the premise, I thought it was a fair question.
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yep. still cheap and yes everyone can figure what I am saying out very easily, NOTHING , and I mean NOTHING has come out of 'modern academic science'.
As I wrote it is even sheer impossible because of the extremely flawed theories. It just is not possible.

So I wondered if you had flunked science. Considering the premise, I thought it was a fair question.
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It is a rarher stupid question, because you are assuming what 'education' is teaching is right. Of course it is not. But the only important question is if I am right or wrong. You are trying neatly to dodge that question.
 
Palandro said:
yep. still cheap and yes everyone can figure what I am saying out very easily, NOTHING , and I mean NOTHING has come out of 'modern academic science'.
As I wrote it is even sheer impossible because of the extremely flawed theories. It just is not possible.


It is a rarher stupid question, because you are assuming what 'education' is teaching is right. Of course it is not. But the only important question is if I am right or wrong. You are trying neatly to dodge that question.
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I edited my comment. You might revisit it.
Or not.
 
Palandro said:
I showed you it didn't.
Academic science is actually obsolete,
And I wont go to far into that now, but the whole of 'education' is actually set up to make people more
dumb (dumbing down), more stupid and less creative. Hence the longer one is in the 'education' system the dumber one becomes.
Who are the people the longest in the 'education'system? Wel, scientists of course.
Just another reason why 'academic science' really can't deliver.
The theories are extremely flawed, and the people , the 'scientist' aren't really the brightest people on earth, to put it mildly.
If the one causes the other remains to be seen.
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What did not happen? Bell labs tried several times to make a Transistor, but had to wait for
silicon purity levels to get better, and Professor Lilienfeld's patent to expire.
Work began before the patent expired, but marketing did not start until after. GSI was the first commercial use on a large scale.
 
longview said:
What did not happen? Bell labs tried several times to make a Transistor, but had to wait for
silicon purity levels to get better, and Professor Lilienfeld's patent to expire.
Work began before the patent expired, but marketing did not start until after. GSI was the first commercial use on a large scale.
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This is funny, Bell Labs treid..bla bl bla... had to wait. So, it is correct they haven't invented the transistor and here you agree, they stole the whole damn thing, Exactly what 'modern academic science' does all the time.

So, here we agree that Bell Lab didn't invent the transistor. Just what I am saying all the time.

But what do you mean what GSI?
 
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Palandro said:
Yes, there is not one technology that came out of 'academic science'. ALL, yes all technologies were invented
before 'academic science' 'had".
An example is the transistor. 'Academic Science' tells us the transistor is here because of quantum mechanics ( qm is bollocks by the way!). Nothing could be further from the truth.
The transistor was invented before quantum mechanics, And so it is with a whole lot of other inventions.
In reality 'academic science' simply can't deliver because the theories are very very wrong.
So, let's face it, people in 'academic science', 'scientists' have only a job to get them off the streets and earn some money to be able to buy some food. That's it. Nothing more.
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Academia is about discovering Perfect Knowledge.
 
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