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Virginia governor to announce removal of Robert E. Lee statue

Condor060 said:
I don't support tearing down any historical monuments. Even ones I don't agree with.

I don't believe in forcing one's fake wokeness on every one else because your feelings are hurt.

I don't believe trying to hide American history as a resolution to anything.

I don't believe you will accomplish anything but setting new precedents with the ignorance of Liberalism.

What will be next? Lets burn down the White house because it was built by slaves? Lets take down any reference of MLK because it is offensive to those who don't believe in equal rights?

Where do you stop the idiocy?
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Then you support a traitor to America


Disgusting
 
Oborosen said:
And now, no other statue is off limits.
Good bye Lincoln, M.L King... any statue that hurts someone's feelings is now fair game.
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No they are not. Only the monuments to traitors will be torn down.

 
marke said:
Bottom line: Do not turn America over to democrat communists or you will see America transformed into a barren communist wasteland like Chavez did to Venezuela in a very few number of years.
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Bottom line: “Democrat communist” don’t exist except in the fevered imagination of theocrats who want to destroy the constitution.
 
marke said:
Comrade citizens of brutal communist nations are slaves without freedom or rights.Do not vote for the Democrat Communist party this fall.
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And you lot wonder why minorities don’t vote for you in any large number :lamo

Your desperation is showing.
 
Condor060 said:
And your point is???????
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None of the presidents you listed were explicitly fighting to protect and expand slavery. The south was.

Had the founding fathers wanted slavery protected, they would have explicitly laid out its protection in the constitution. But even the ones who were slave holders realized what a great evil it was.

Unlike the Confederates, who fought desperately to preserve it.
 
Condor060 said:
That would be about right for a 15 year olds opinion.
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You support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.


THAT IS A FACT
 
iguanaman said:
No they are not. Only the monuments to traitors will be torn down.
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What traitors were you referring to again?

Congressional Act of 9 March 1906 ~ We Honor Our Fallen Ancestors
(P.L. 38, 59th Congress, Chap. 631-34 Stat. 56)

This act authorized the furnishing of headstones for the graves of Confederates who died, primarily in Union prison camps and were buried in Federal cemeteries. Remarks: This act formally reaffirmed Confederate soldiers as military combatants with legal standing. It granted recognition to deceased Confederate soldiers commensurate with the status of deceased Union soldiers.

U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by 17th Congress 26 February 1929
(45 Stat 1307 - Currently on the books as 38 U.S. Code, Sec. 2306)

This law, passed by the U.S. Congress, authorized the "Secretary of War to erect headstones over the graves of soldiers who served in the Confederate Army and to direct him to preserve in the records of the War Department the names and places of burial of all soldiers for whom such headstones shall have been erected."
Remarks: This act broadened the scope of recognition further for all Confederate soldiers to receive burial benefits equivalent to Union soldiers. It authorized the use of U.S. government (public) funds to mark Confederate graves and record their locations.
U.S. Public Law 85-425: Sec. 410 Approved 23 May 1958

Confederate Iron Cross (US Statutes at Large Volume 72, Part 1, Page 133-134)

The Administrator shall pay to each person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such person under the laws in effect on December 31, 1957, if his service in such forces had been service in the military or naval forces of the United States.

Federal Law Regarding Confederate Veterans - Confederate Secret Service Camp 1710
 
Condor060 said:
What traitors were you referring to again?

Congressional Act of 9 March 1906 ~ We Honor Our Fallen Ancestors
(P.L. 38, 59th Congress, Chap. 631-34 Stat. 56)

This act authorized the furnishing of headstones for the graves of Confederates who died, primarily in Union prison camps and were buried in Federal cemeteries. Remarks: This act formally reaffirmed Confederate soldiers as military combatants with legal standing. It granted recognition to deceased Confederate soldiers commensurate with the status of deceased Union soldiers.

U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by 17th Congress 26 February 1929
(45 Stat 1307 - Currently on the books as 38 U.S. Code, Sec. 2306)

This law, passed by the U.S. Congress, authorized the "Secretary of War to erect headstones over the graves of soldiers who served in the Confederate Army and to direct him to preserve in the records of the War Department the names and places of burial of all soldiers for whom such headstones shall have been erected."
Remarks: This act broadened the scope of recognition further for all Confederate soldiers to receive burial benefits equivalent to Union soldiers. It authorized the use of U.S. government (public) funds to mark Confederate graves and record their locations.
U.S. Public Law 85-425: Sec. 410 Approved 23 May 1958

Confederate Iron Cross (US Statutes at Large Volume 72, Part 1, Page 133-134)

The Administrator shall pay to each person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such person under the laws in effect on December 31, 1957, if his service in such forces had been service in the military or naval forces of the United States.

Federal Law Regarding Confederate Veterans - Confederate Secret Service Camp 1710
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You support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans
 
vegas giants said:
You support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.


THAT IS A FACT
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Yeah, Ok, You should run with that. At least your consistently 15 years old, I'll give you that.
 
Condor060 said:
Yeah, Ok, You should run with that. At least your consistently 15 years old, I'll give you that.
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You can deny it like a coward would...or admit it.


Your choice
 
Tigerace117 said:
None of the presidents you listed were explicitly fighting to protect and expand slavery. The south was.

Had the founding fathers wanted slavery protected, they would have explicitly laid out its protection in the constitution. But even the ones who were slave holders realized what a great evil it was.

Unlike the Confederates, who fought desperately to preserve it.
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So now you think, if you were a president and sided with the Union, putting blacks in bondage and slavery was ok because eventually you decided not to do that anymore?

I don't think so. You are learning the Liberal history revision for what they call the woke.

Every state was independent as was guaranteed in their constitution.

Every state was given the legal authority to secede from the United States of their own vote.

Both North and South had slaves. Not just the ones you want to hold up as your weapon of slavery.

The North decided they were now against slavery and told the South they would have to do the same.

They changed the rules and when Lincoln was elected, 7 Southern states seceded as was their legal right.

Because of the UNIFIED support of slavery years prior, the entire South (for the most part) was built on slavery. To eliminate the slaves would mean to crush the total economy of the South and put in ruins generations of family businesses and commerce.

The war was fought, the South surrendered, and slavery was abolished. But you want to hold the Confederates to a different standard because they weren't the ones to decide to abolish slavery?

Kind of a double standard there, don't ya think?
 
vegas giants said:
You support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans
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:lamo You going to write the same post over and over like it might carry a different meaning the next time you write it.

Did you learn that in Ms. Petunia's class. Did she make you write something on the chalk board a hundred times? So now you think that's how you have discussions with adults?

Did she keep you inside during recess to do that?

Poor Poor vegas giants. :lamo
 
Condor060 said:
:lamo You going to write the same post over and over like it might carry a different meaning the next time you write it.

Did you learn that in Ms. Petunia's class. Did she make you write something on the chalk board a hundred times? So now you think that's how you have discussions with adults?

Did she keep you inside during recess to do that?

Poor Poor vegas giants. :lamo
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Yes yes....go for the personal attack.


Because this is really about you and me. LOL
 
vegas giants said:
Yes yes....go for the personal attack.


Because this is really about you and me. LOL
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So you can make all the personal attacks you want because you live in your little entitlement world. The world of a child.

vegas giants said:
another cowardly post from you
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vegas giants said:
You can deny it like a coward would...or admit it. Your choice
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Or did I embarrass you for making the same post like you were writing on the teachers chalk board?

vegas giants said:
You support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans
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vegas giants said:
You support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.

THAT IS A FACT
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vegas giants said:
Do you support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans?
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vegas giants said:
Do you support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans?
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vegas giants said:
I will ask you directly Do you support a statue in the public square of a general of a foreign army that attacked the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans?
Dont run....just answer
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vegas giants said:
You really really really want to have monuments to people that attacked the US.
Dude ....that is disgusting
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All most certainly the efforts of someone who has unresolved issues from elementary school.

I bet you'll post it again. Won't you? Go ahead vegas, show us that post just one more time.
 
Condor060 said:
So you can make all the personal attacks you want because you live in your little entitlement world. The world of a child.





Or did I embarrass you for making the same post like you were writing on the teachers chalk board?













All most certainly the efforts of someone who has unresolved issues from elementary school.

I bet you'll post it again. Won't you? Go ahead vegas, show us that post just one more time.
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Lets talk about you and me



It distracts of your support for a statue of a general who led his army to kill americans. LOL
 
Condor060 said:
The only one here establishing pro slavery is you.



Obviously for you, having slaves isn't a black mark on anyone's record. Right?
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Dude. Wtf are you talking about? Lol. You are projecting on me the exact opposite of what I'm saying like some kind of sociopath. Miss me with that gas lighting.

No...i just said not taking action against slavery and civil rights issues is a negative mark on the record of presidents. That's almost a no brainer. You look like a fool failing at these little logic games rather than just discussing the topic.

No where have I supported slavery. I asked you if you did since you were choosing to look so fondly on the confederacy and its symbolism, and ignoring my points.

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Condor060 said:
What traitors were you referring to again?

Congressional Act of 9 March 1906 ~ We Honor Our Fallen Ancestors
(P.L. 38, 59th Congress, Chap. 631-34 Stat. 56)

This act authorized the furnishing of headstones for the graves of Confederates who died, primarily in Union prison camps and were buried in Federal cemeteries. Remarks: This act formally reaffirmed Confederate soldiers as military combatants with legal standing. It granted recognition to deceased Confederate soldiers commensurate with the status of deceased Union soldiers.

U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by 17th Congress 26 February 1929
(45 Stat 1307 - Currently on the books as 38 U.S. Code, Sec. 2306)

This law, passed by the U.S. Congress, authorized the "Secretary of War to erect headstones over the graves of soldiers who served in the Confederate Army and to direct him to preserve in the records of the War Department the names and places of burial of all soldiers for whom such headstones shall have been erected."
Remarks: This act broadened the scope of recognition further for all Confederate soldiers to receive burial benefits equivalent to Union soldiers. It authorized the use of U.S. government (public) funds to mark Confederate graves and record their locations.
U.S. Public Law 85-425: Sec. 410 Approved 23 May 1958

Confederate Iron Cross (US Statutes at Large Volume 72, Part 1, Page 133-134)

The Administrator shall pay to each person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such person under the laws in effect on December 31, 1957, if his service in such forces had been service in the military or naval forces of the United States.

Federal Law Regarding Confederate Veterans - Confederate Secret Service Camp 1710
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I'm talking about the Southern traitors that took up arms against their own country. Who else would I be calling traitors? Do you even know what traitor is?

 
Condor060 said:
I will be more than happy to answer your loaded question as soon as you answer mine. How that?

Why do you support monuments to Union Presidents who were slavers? Do you hate black people that much?
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If you were paying attention....you would notice that the objection is NOT to statues of people who were slaveowners. The objection is to those who FOUGHT AGAINST the United States, COMMITTED TREASON, in order to maintain slavery for all. It might be difficult for you to distinguish the difference....but it IS there.
 
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grainbelt said:
Those northerners didnt go to war to protect slavery. And like I said, other presidents before that did not take action do have a negative mark on their record.
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I responded that obviously to you, these (Presidents before the Civil war) didn't consider slaves a black mark on their record.

Now you're saying

grainbelt said:
No...i just said not taking action against slavery and civil rights issues is a negative mark on the record of presidents. That's almost a no brainer. You look like a fool failing at these little logic games rather than just discussing the topic.
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If you typed something you didn't mean, thats fine. We all do it. But I was responding to what you wrote. No?
 
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