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James972 · Nov 7, 2017

C R O I X said:
And Yes, American voting system is limited because it is not direct democratic voting, it is partial democracy.
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Our genius Founders wanted partial democracy because they knew people were not smart enough for full democracy. They mostly rule us today through their Constitution which was designed to prevent the greatest Platonic evil in history, namely , big govt. Do you understand now? No charge for teaching you the basics of history.

James972 · Nov 7, 2017

C R O I X said:
your binary perspective that everything is only Capitalist or Socialist[ freedom or govt more accurately] and nothing else.

if not true why did you fail once again to tell us what else there is???

James972 · Nov 7, 2017

C R O I X said:
Now you have to that more socialism politics does not means less capitalism. Otherwise Germany, Sweden, France, Ireland, UK, etc would be considered countries with no or little capitalism, since they have very large social politics after WWII:
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wow are you lost. Our liberals want more govt and so they like Germany Sweden etc. Our conservatives want less govt and more capitalism so don't like Germany Sweden. Europe is mixed more toward socialism than USA so USA Republicans don't like Europe and prefer more mix toward Republican capitalism. Now even you understand -right? No one is better than I am at making things simple enough for even liberals to understand. I think you will agree?

James972 · Nov 7, 2017

C R O I X said:
And you also have to learn the difference between Capitalism and Free Market,

1+1=2 Milton Friedman liked capitalism and the free market as the same or very similar. We don't need you to reinvent the wheel. Sorry to break your heart.

James972 · Nov 7, 2017

C R O I X said:
The problem is not Free Market Capitalism vs Socialism. The problem is Corporatism Capitalism vs Free Market Capitalism

capitalism is when govt and business are separate, libcommiesocialism is when they are combined to one degree or another. Thus what you call call corporatism is really socialism. See what I meant about simple enough so that even a liberal can understand? PS: what country are you from?

C R O I X · Nov 8, 2017

Here we go again the gay with random phrases with no sense talking about nothing, with the sole purpose to disagree for the disagreement sake for eternity, and it will never ends while he is alive with access to internet.

James972 said:
capitalism is when govt and business are separate, libcommiesocialism is when they are combined to one degree or another. Thus what you call call corporatism is really socialism. See what I meant about simple enough so that even a liberal can understand? PS: what country are you from?

So America is a Big socialist country? You are supporting socialism?

I was born in Brazil and I lived many years in Israel, Ireland, England and now in Germany.

James972 said:
1+1=2 Milton Friedman liked capitalism and the free market as the same or very similar. We don't need you to reinvent the wheel. Sorry to break your heart.

So in America there is no capitalism? There is no Capitalism in Germany? Pinochet's Chile with Milton Friedman had no Capitalism?

James972 said:
wow are you lost. Our liberals want more govt and so they like Germany Sweden etc. Our conservatives want less govt and more capitalism so don't like Germany Sweden. Europe is mixed more toward socialism than USA so USA Republicans don't like Europe and prefer more mix toward Republican capitalism. Now even you understand -right? No one is better than I am at making things simple enough for even liberals to understand. I think you will agree?

So there is almost no capitalism in Germany, England and Ireland?

James972 said:
if not true why did you fail once again to tell us what else there is???

I have being telling several times in almost all my posts in this topic. Just because you don't read what you don't want to know does not mean I failed on tell.

James972 said:
Our genius Founders wanted partial democracy because they knew people were not smart enough for full democracy. They mostly rule us today through their Constitution which was designed to prevent the greatest Platonic evil in history, namely , big govt. Do you understand now? No charge for teaching you the basics of history.

This is what I have being saying and you had being disagreeing with me until now. What makes you agree with me now?

James972 said:
How can both I and voting booth be anachronistic if we ask same question that Plato and Aristotle asked: freedom or govt? What question do you think we should ask?

I never said about any voting system being anachronistic but only your over simplification binary unrealistic way to interpret the world.

James972 said:
real talk to you is really gibberish talk. In fact real talk in the voting booth is about whether freedom or govt is better.

unfotunatly you don't want talk even about that or anything you have being claiming here.

James972 said:
for 4th time: our voting booths offer binary choice. Why is that limited anachronistic etc etc??? Are you afraid to answer???

For the 4th time, I never said about any voting system be anachronistic.

BitterPill · Nov 8, 2017

James972 said:
1) have people shop with their own money or vouchers and keep what they don't spend
2) have providers compete on basis of price and quality

1) Make it illegal to spend money on healthcare. That should reduce healthcare spending precipitously.

BitterPill · Nov 8, 2017

James972 said:
Our genius Founders wanted partial democracy because they knew people were not smart enough for full democracy. They mostly rule us today through their Constitution which was designed to prevent the greatest Platonic evil in history, namely , big govt. Do you understand now? No charge for teaching you the basics of history.

I think our founders took the lesson of ancient Athens to heart.

James972 · Nov 8, 2017

C R O I X said:
So America is a Big socialist country?.

America has a mixed economy; this is something you have learned 12 times now. Do you want to go for 13 times?

James972 · Nov 8, 2017

C R O I X said:
So in America there is no capitalism?

for 14th time America has mixed economy ie elements of capitalism and socialism. Shall we go for 15 times?

James972 · Nov 8, 2017

C R O I X said:
This is what I have being saying and you had being disagreeing with me

if I disagreed I will pay you $10,000. Bet or run away again??

James972 · Nov 8, 2017

C R O I X said:
I never said about any voting system being anachronistic.

so the choice we face in the voting booth: freedom versus govt is a good one and does reflect the most essential issue in all of human history?

James972 · Nov 8, 2017

C R O I X said:
For the 4th time, I never said about any voting system be anachronistic.

oh, so when I say the essential issue is freedom versus govt that is anachronistic but when the voting booth poses the same issue that is not anachronistic? Notice that when a liberal and conservative meet the conservative ends up running a kindergarten?

Praxas · Nov 8, 2017

James972 said:
How can both I and voting booth be anachronistic if we ask same question that Plato and Aristotle asked: freedom or govt? What question do you think we should ask?

Unrestrained freedom is anarchy. That is FACT. If there is no government there is no restraint. You can argue the Middle ground of freedom and rules (ie govt.) but there is no changing the fact that Unretrained freedom is anarchy.

James972 · Nov 8, 2017

Praxas said:
Unrestrained freedom is anarchy.

nobody is talking about unrestrained freedom, obviously. you changed the subject without seeing it.

C R O I X · Nov 9, 2017

James972 said:
America has a mixed economy; this is something you have learned 12 times now. Do you want to go for 13 times?

Nice see we finally start to agree with each other. What makes you change your opinion?

James972 said:
oh, so when I say the essential issue is freedom versus govt that is anachronistic but when the voting booth poses the same issue that is not anachronistic? Notice that when a liberal and conservative meet the conservative ends up running a kindergarten?

It makes no sense to compare a person view of reality to a voting system as if it were the same talk.

James972 said:
so the choice we face in the voting booth: freedom versus govt is a good one and does reflect the most essential issue in all of human history?

Americam Voting system is about voting between Social Politics and Corporatism which you call Socialism. So according to what you say, there is only socialist option to vote in America.

According to what you say, Germany (and many other European states) that is a welfare paradise with huge and bureaucratic Government with huge taxes, is one hundred times much more capitalist than America, because small and middle familiar business compose 99% of Germany Economy while America economy is hugely composed and ruled by corporations.

James972 said:
if I disagreed I will pay you $10,000. Bet or run away again??

I never run, I am the only one here bring arguments to what I say while you are just randomly repeating empty ideological slogan which you don't care to think about but only blindly propagate.

"Ideological thought:
Laziness: it's easier to apply a doctrine to everything at once than to think through complex issues;
Ignorance: the less you know about a problem the easier you think it is to solve;
Malevolence: it's great to find the enemy in others so that you have someone against who to direct your resentment".
- Jordan Peterson

C R O I X · Nov 9, 2017

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Here tells how Europeans with their high taxes spend less money with healthcare than Americans with their low taxes but high prices on their health sytem:

James972 · Nov 9, 2017

C R O I X said:
Nice see we finally start to agree with each other. What makes you change your opinion?

if I changed my opinion I will pay you $10,000. Bet?

James972 · Nov 9, 2017

C R O I X said:
It makes no sense to compare a person view of reality to a voting system as if it were the same talk.

100% wrong as always. People have determined that freedom versus govt is the central issue of human history and people have determined that the central issue presented by our voting booths is freedom versus govt. Do you think its a coincidence that voting booths don't ask us if its Yankees versus Red Sox?? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

James972 · Nov 9, 2017

C R O I X said:
Americam Voting system is about voting between Social Politics and Corporatism which you call Socialism. So according to what you say, there is only socialist option to vote in America.

social politics??? Where in an American voting booth does one vote for social politics???Why not learn English so you don't speak nonsense gibberish?.

James972 · Nov 9, 2017

C R O I X said:
According to what you say, Germany (and many other European states) that is a welfare paradise with huge and bureaucratic Government with huge taxes, is one hundred times much more capitalist than America, because small and middle familiar business compose 99% of Germany Economy while America economy is hugely composed and ruled by corporations.

if I said anything like that lunatic gibberish I will pay you $10,000. Bet??

James972 · Nov 9, 2017

C R O I X said:
, I am the only one here bring arguments to what I say

so then lets see your best argument in understandable English?

James972 · Nov 9, 2017

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why not tell us what great point you think the libcommie made?

James972 · Nov 9, 2017

C R O I X said:
Here tells how Europeans with their high taxes spend less money with healthcare than Americans with their low taxes but high prices on their health sytem:

why not tell us why the libcommie thinks health care costs are so high??

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