Elderly Will Be Denied Intensive Care as Coronavirus Overwhelms Italy's National Health System, Expe

cabse5 · Mar 17, 2020

Glitch said:
As the adage goes, "your rights ends at my nose." You have the right to do whatever you please, providing it harms (physically, financially, or any other means) no one else. Consider also that every gun control measure imposed is chipping away at our unalienable right to liberty.

Side note: You don't like what Trump is doing with mandatory social distancing to prevent coronavirus spread?

Glitch · Mar 17, 2020

BlueTex said:
You don't accept responsibility for denying the seriousness of the situation and resisting the efforts necessary to reduce the spread of the virus?

Still trying to induce panic I see. Give it up. You've completely failed. COVID-19 is not any worse than any influenza virus that has hit the US in the last decade, and considerably milder than many prior years. You and your ilk are just trying to cause as much panic as possible during an election year in the hope that it will give you some advantage. It won't. Pelosi's illegal impeachment absolutely assured Trump of a landslide victory. So all your hopes to instill panic have failed.

cabse5 · Mar 17, 2020

Glitch said:
It clearly is the correct forum, as Italy demonstrates the exact same measures Mussolini took when he controlled fascist Italy. Screw the elderly and the poor, currently the Italian motto and if you had your way it would no doubt be the motto for the US as well. Leftists are all the same.

BTW, not many will acknowledge Mussolini was a democrat when he first controlled fascist Italy.

cabse5 · Mar 17, 2020

Glitch said:
Still trying to induce panic I see. Give it up. You've completely failed. COVID-19 is not any worse than any influenza virus that has hit the US in the last decade, and considerably milder than many prior years. You and your ilk are just trying to cause as much panic as possible during an election year in the hope that it will give you some advantage. It won't. Pelosi's illegal impeachment absolutely assured Trump of a landslide victory. So all your hopes to instill panic have failed.

I see some panic in Trump. Or at least, the scientists which Trump relies on.

BlueTex · Mar 17, 2020

Glitch said:
Still trying to induce panic I see. Give it up. You've completely failed. COVID-19 is not any worse than any influenza virus that has hit the US in the last decade, and considerably milder than many prior years. You and your ilk are just trying to cause as much panic as possible during an election year in the hope that it will give you some advantage. It won't. Pelosi's illegal impeachment absolutely assured Trump of a landslide victory. So all your hopes to instill panic have failed.

Then why has the president been led down the path of the drastic actions he has already taken?

Glitch · Mar 17, 2020

cabse5 said:
BTW, not many will acknowledge Mussolini was a democrat when he first controlled fascist Italy.

Only those ignorant of history would deny Mussolini was a devout Marxist socialist. Just like the Democratic Party today.

Glitch · Mar 17, 2020

cabse5 said:
I see some panic in Trump. Or at least, the scientists which Trump relies on.

I can't say I'm surprised. Trump is not particularly bright, and when surrounded by leftists telling him to panic he is going to eventually succumb. Yet another reason why Trump should have fired every Obama appointee when he first took office in 2017. His failure to keep his campaign promise and purge the "deep state" criminal left is coming back to haunt him. Apparently he already forgot what the FBI tried to do to him before he fired Comey.

Glitch · Mar 17, 2020

BlueTex said:
Then why has the president been led down the path of the drastic actions he has already taken?

How the hell should I know what motivates the bloviated moron? I suspect he is succumbing to the propaganda being pushed by you leftists. He still has a lot of your leftist filth in his administration. The mark of a political moron, but still a far better choice than the criminal Hillary.

Taylor · Mar 17, 2020

Deuce said:
Italy has more hospital beds per capita than we do.

Yes and no. They have more because they need more. On a typical day, they have fewer open beds available to treat things that are out of the norm.

Of course, what's really important is the number of ICU/critical care beds. They - like every other country in Europe except for maybe Germany - lag far behind us in that department.

We're going to be seeing them turn away patients they could otherwise treat, if we haven't already. Maybe that's just part of the risk involved in adopting discount healthcare systems.

cabse5 · Mar 17, 2020

Glitch said:
Only those ignorant of history would deny Mussolini was a devout Marxist socialist. Just like the Democratic Party today.

One last, really big side step: Hitler patterned most of his Nazism on Mussolini. But dems say only righties can be fascists.:lamo

cabse5 · Mar 17, 2020

Glitch said:
I can't say I'm surprised. Trump is not particularly bright, and when surrounded by leftists telling him to panic he is going to eventually succumb. Yet another reason why Trump should have fired every Obama appointee when he first took office in 2017. His failure to keep his campaign promise and purge the "deep state" criminal left is coming back to haunt him. Apparently he already forgot what the FBI tried to do to him before he fired Comey.

How many non members of the deep state did Trump have to choose from? Established candidates? Assuredly, not. And cabinet must be approved by the Senate.

Glitch · Mar 17, 2020

cabse5 said:
One last, really big side step: Hitler patterned most of his Nazism on Mussolini. But dems say only righties can be fascists.:lamo

Hitler had his own brand of socialism with the NAZI Party, which evolved during the 1920s at the same time as Mussolini's Fascist Party. There are lots of similarities to both. As far as who can be "fascist," Mussolini defined fascism as "[e]verything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." Which is entirely a leftist ideology, not right-wing. One of the things the Democratic Party did immediately after WW II was try to erase all the support they gave to the German NAZI Party during the 1930s, including turning back to Germany in 1939 a cruise ship full of Jewish refugees. Prominent Democrats, like Henry Ford, was given an award by the German NAZIs for his praise of Hitler and the Third Reich.

danielpalos · Mar 17, 2020

More flavorful dishes can't hurt. More herbs and garlic in any dishes!

cabse5 · Mar 17, 2020

danielpalos said:
More flavorful dishes can't hurt. More herbs and garlic in any dishes!

Translate?

danielpalos · Mar 17, 2020

cabse5 said:
Translate?

You could try adding more herbs for more flavor. Garlic is always good. Medicinal herbs can be more effective by using more of it.

Mashmont · Mar 17, 2020

zimmer said:
Proving... healthcare is not a right, nor has it ever been one.

This for people who have paid into their system their whole life... to be denied.

Welcome to single-payer Italy. The people most affected by this virus are the most screwed.

Divine_Wind · Mar 17, 2020

cabse5 said:
Side note, kinda: Are you against capital punishment?

Yes since our government has inadvertently executed innocent people. I do support life without parole and the use of deadly force.

Blackstone's Ratio applies. Do you support capital punishment, even if it's not perfect and an innocent person is executed by the State?

cabse5 · Mar 17, 2020

danielpalos said:
You could try adding more herbs for more flavor. Garlic is always good. Medicinal herbs can be more effective by using more of it.

Why the cooking reference? Translate?

Ringo Stalin · Mar 17, 2020

Here is the thought, China, even if conditionally socialist, but still, and we see the coronavirus became a super-advertisement for socialism, and an anti-advertisement for capitalism. According to reports from Europe, things may turn out to be very sad.