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Alt-Right Ringleader Mike Cernovich Threatens to Drop ‘Motherlode’ If Steve Bannon Is

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Winston said:
Pretty much. People who listen to Alex Jones and hang out on 4chan threatening to drop bombshells of secretive information, is kind of like Trump tweeting out that the real story is that he was surveilled by Obama. No one takes you seriously but, it can make for some juicy gossip, if you're into that sort of thing.
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Cernovich is the guy who dropped the Susan Rice story. Give him a little credit.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Then if that is true, you should have been able to show that what they reported was false.

You didn't.

You only tried to discredit the story by making an absolute argument, shooting the messenger. That is a fail, but yer argument is too stupid to see that.
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Just the fact that it didn't make it to mainstream media is proof that it is fake news. Doesn't surprise me though that you get your news from the bottom of the barrell.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
No one is arguing you have to read it, the point you don't get to say a story is invalid, is untrue, because the publisher has a bias.

Your problem here is the same as in the economics forum, you have rejected fact based argument entirely, so you don't get to personally make ANY fact based argument....you have nothing to stand on.
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Thanks for admitting that you get your news from totally biased sources. That's explains a lot with you. No objectivity, just bias.
 
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Moderate Right said:
Just the fact that it didn't make it to mainstream media is proof that it is fake news.
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Yer wrong on 2 points, it did get into the "mainstream" news, and even if it did not does not mean that the information was untrue/false.
Doesn't surprise me though that you get your news from the bottom of the barrell.
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anything biased, according to you, is "fake", so again, you have made a completely unsustainable argument.
 
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Moderate Right said:
Thanks for admitting that you get your news from totally biased sources. That's explains a lot with you. No objectivity, just bias.
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This is such a screwed up argument, just the other day you were whining that the left doesn't "listen" to right-wing sources. Protip: You don't get to argue from both sides of your mouth, troll.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Pro-tip: Shooting the messenger...is NOT.....a counterpoint.
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Sure it is. You seem to not understand the saying. We don't shoot the messenger when the messenger is simply conveying a message from someone. We do shoot the messenger when it spews BS from no legitimate source whatsoever on a regular basis.

What kind of anti-debate nutbag crap is it to not criticize sources? I'll tell you what kind of crap - Truther crap.

Bring a real source to a debate or be legitimately dismissed. Don't demand anyone read BS sources, that's just being intellectual cancer.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Yer wrong on 2 points, it did get into the "mainstream" news, and even if it did not does not mean that the information was untrue/false.anything biased, according to you, is "fake", so again, you have made a completely unsustainable argument.
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It didn't make it into the mainstream media - because even the left biased mainstream media wouldn't print the garbage.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
This is such a screwed up argument, just the other day you were whining that the left doesn't "listen" to right-wing sources. Protip: You don't get to argue from both sides of your mouth, troll.
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Please prove where I said that troll. I have repeatedly said that no one should listen to the biased extremist media of either side. Anyone who listens to the garbage media of either side just proves they are not interested in anything but fake news, Trump and you included.
 
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Moderate Right said:
Please prove where I said that troll. I have repeatedly said that no one should listen to the biased extremist media of either side. Anyone who listens to the garbage media of either side just proves they are not interested in anything but fake news, Trump and you included.
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Your argument fails because most of American media is pretty garbage.
 
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phattonez said:
Cernovich is the guy who dropped the Susan Rice story. Give him a little credit.
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What do you mean 'dropped'?

On April 3, 2017, Eli Lake reported in Bloomberg View that as National Security Advisor, Rice had requested that the identities of some Americans mentioned in intelligence reports related to the campaign and presidential transition of Donald Trump be unmasked.[75]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rice#National_Security_Advisor

Any bets where he got the info?
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
Your argument fails because most of American media is pretty garbage.
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Then no one should be using any American media as a news source.
 
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ecofarm said:
Sure it is. You seem to not understand the saying. We don't shoot the messenger when the messenger is simply conveying a message from someone.
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Uh, MR is doing EXACTLY that, the Daily Beast is reporting on a SELF RECORDED statement by Cernovich.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Pro-Trump blogger Cernovich getting big scoops, mainstream attention | Fox News
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That article doesn't even say anything about what we are talking about. It is just a bio of the guy. In any event, I don't call Fox News mainstream media, do you? Should I bring up examples of your posts declaring FOX News as nothing but lies and now you want to use them as a legitimate news source?
 
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Moderate Right said:
That article doesn't even say anything about what we are talking about.
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What are "we" talking about? I am currently talking about a guy who posted a self-recorded view about how he would blackmail others if Bannon was dumped, you claimed he was never covered by mainstream media, I just showed he has been.


I don't call Fox News mainstream media, do you?
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Of course I do, they are a part of:

the various large mass news media that influence a large number of people, and both reflect and shape prevailing currents of thought.

Should I bring up examples of your posts declaring FOX News as nothing but lies and now you want to use them as a legitimate news source?
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Now yer conflating "mainstream media" with a value judgement on "legitimacy". Fox NEWS reports are often factual, but lets make something clear:

You are not making an argument about whether or not the story, the self recorded statement by Cernovich, is factual....your argument is that it cannot be true because of where it was reported.

It is, as per usual, a vapid, stupid argument that has no standing.....but then again, what else is new...
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
What are "we" talking about? I am currently talking about a guy who posted a self-recorded view about how he would blackmail others if Bannon was dumped, you claimed he was never covered by mainstream media, I just showed he has been.


Of course I do, they are a part of:

the various large mass news media that influence a large number of people, and both reflect and shape prevailing currents of thought.

Now yer conflating "mainstream media" with a value judgement on "legitimacy". Fox NEWS reports are often factual, but lets make something clear:

You are not making an argument about whether or not the story, the self recorded statement by Cernovich, is factual....your argument is that it cannot be true because of where it was reported.

It is, as per usual, a vapid, stupid argument that has no standing.....but then again, what else is new...
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Please show where the article addresses current events, such as the Daily Beast article you are trying to defend. I'm glad you think Fox News tells the truth and is not Faux News.
 
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