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Florida school shooting suspect is a white nationalist, group leader says

For social media--note to males:

If you torture or kill animals (the more defenseless the better?) or anything or anyone weaker than you? YOU NEED HELP. You are ****ed up, you are not a man, even if you have XY chromosomes. Seek help so that you can someday lead a more normal life and maybe actually find happiness.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
It doesn't take much for me, as a conservative, to condemn white supremacists.

This doesn't appear to be a hate crime, though, so I'm having a hard time reconciling how much of my condemnation in this particular case should be diverted from the fact that another deranged psychopath went into a school and murdered a bunch of innocent kids.
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Apparently it does. Murdering 17 people in a single act is always a hate crime. He damn sure didn't do it out of love. This kid was obviously disturbed as we have been hearing. This type of disturbed kid, getting bullied at school, no real home life, and the only people he feels is on his side are hate filled white supremacists who encourage violence. Yea I do think their rhetoric played a large role in this.
 
Desert Storm said:
Jeezus, I'll condemn them right now. Happy there fella??

Now I want you to condemn Islam and affirm its a violent, bigoted religion. Can you do that??
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No. I will not condemn a religion. I will gladly condemn terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Queda. But I will not condemn 10's of millions of people because of a extremely small sub sect of their culture is violent.
 
Kreton said:
No. I will not condemn a religion. I will gladly condemn terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Queda. But I will not condemn 10's of millions of people because of a extremely small sub sect of their culture is violent
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Ah, but not all white supremacists are violent either.

David Duke never killed anyone
 
Desert Storm said:
Ah, but not all white supremacists are violent either.

David Duke never killed anyone
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Stop defending white power.

Not a Christians are terrorists, just like not all Muslims aren't.

Your precious white power groups are not a religion like those so don't try to compare it. They are no different than ISIS or AL Queda.
 
Kreton said:
Stop defending white power.

Not a Christians are terrorists, just like not all Muslims aren't.

Your precious white power groups are not a religion like those so don't try to compare it. They are no different than ISIS or AL Queda.
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So you won't condemn the entire religion of Islam, even though it's known for oppressing women, it's homophobic and very hateful of any non-believers.

That's interesting that you won't condemn that
 
Kreton said:
Apparently it does. Murdering 17 people in a single act is always a hate crime. He damn sure didn't do it out of love. This kid was obviously disturbed as we have been hearing. This type of disturbed kid, getting bullied at school, no real home life, and the only people he feels is on his side are hate filled white supremacists who encourage violence. Yea I do think their rhetoric played a large role in this.
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Somewhere in there is the answer. Maybe we can add a few things, like lack of empathy and an obsession with killing.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
yet when each and every one of the last savages that committe these horrific acts have been shown to be a democrat, it's not a big deal to these clowns.
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Cite references for all this "liberal terrorism" that's getting falsely credited to the alt right?
 
Manc Skipper said:
Not even your President? Fine people!
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The litmus test; you see if the coverage on Trump is negative then it's fake news. Since Trump is such a selfless hero of the American people, any negative news, no matter how well backed by facts is fake. And if the president decides this was an act of illegal immigration terrrism, the president is smarter than anyone and he's right!
 
Desert Storm said:
So you won't condemn the entire religion of Islam, even though it's known for oppressing women, it's homophobic and very hateful of any non-believers.

That's interesting that you won't condemn that
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As one that has Muslim neighbors, you comments are completely full of ****. They aren't homophobes, they don't hate non-believers and the males of the family don't oppress the women. so why would I condemn an ENTIRE religion when it's clear not all of them do that?
 
Kreton said:
Apparently it does. Murdering 17 people in a single act is always a hate crime. He damn sure didn't do it out of love. This kid was obviously disturbed as we have been hearing. This type of disturbed kid, getting bullied at school, no real home life, and the only people he feels is on his side are hate filled white supremacists who encourage violence. Yea I do think their rhetoric played a large role in this.
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He is claiming the demons made him do it, which if true, that's not hate. It's insanity. I think people are to eager to place blame on one side or the other. This kid sounds like he is mentally broken an slipped through the cracks.

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trouble13 said:
He is claiming the demons made him do it, which if true, that's not hate. It's insanity. I think people are to eager to place blame on one side or the other. This kid sounds like he is mentally broken an slipped through the cracks.

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The fact that white nationalists, a blatantly racist group, is a "side" politically is sickening.

This kid had white power preaching violence in his ear constantly and then went out and killed people. There is a connection.

There is no doubt he is insane. Sane people don't commit these types of acts. However that doesn't excuse these white power groups that help encourage this crap.
 
Praxas said:
As one that has Muslim neighbors, you comments are completely full of ****. They aren't homophobes, they don't hate non-believers and the males of the family don't oppress the women. so why would I condemn an ENTIRE religion when it's clear not all of them do that?
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Maybe not all of them, but a large percentage of them.

FACT: In Iran they still execute alcoholics and gay people.
FACT: Saudi Arabia still wont let women drive.
FACT: In many countries the burka and hijab are still mandatory for women to wear.
FACT: Islam has committed the vast majority of terrorism in Europe over last 20 years.
FACT: Islam commits the vast majority of terrorism around the world
 
I would like to think that people would learn from this thread not to immediately jump on everything you see in the news that confirms your bias, before waiting to make sure its actually fact based.

But we know better....
 
Desert Storm said:
Maybe not all of them, but a large percentage of them.

FACT: In Iran they still execute alcoholics and gay people.
FACT: Saudi Arabia still wont let women drive.
FACT: In many countries the burka and hijab are still mandatory for women to wear.
FACT: Islam has committed the vast majority of terrorism in Europe over last 20 years.
FACT: Islam commits the vast majority of terrorism around the world
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Fact, America is different so why would I lump American Muslims into groups from other parts of the world?
 
Praxas said:
Fact, America is different so why would I lump American Muslims into groups from other parts of the world?
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We were discussing the religion in general. Now you want to switch to just the American version of Islam??
You realize they all still read from the same book dont you??
 
Desert Storm said:
We were discussing the religion in general. Now you want to switch to just the American version of Islam??
You realize they all still read from the same book, dont you??
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Because they DO read from the same book. so therefore if my Muslim neighbors are reading from the same book and they aren't homophobic, they don't oppress women and they don't want to kill non-believers, your comments are bull****. Again, you want to denounce specific actions from a government from a country, group, etc. FINE, I'm right there with you. But no, I'm not going to be stupid and blame an entire religion.

You do realize that those who committed violence in the NAME of Christianity ALSO read from the same book YOU do. Does that mean Christianity is violent because a group of idiots committed violence in the name of your religion?
 
Praxas said:
Because they DO read from the same book. so therefore if my Muslim neighbors are reading from the same book and they aren't homophobic, they don't oppress women and they don't want to kill non-believers, your comments are bull****. Again, you want to denounce specific actions from a government from a country, group, etc. FINE, I'm right there with you. But no, I'm not going to be stupid and blame an entire religion.

You do realize that those who committed violence in the NAME of Christianity ALSO read from the same book YOU do. Does that mean Christianity is violent because a group of idiots committed violence in the name of your religion?
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Worldwide, christianity doesnt commit the same amount of atrocities as Islam does. Its not even close.
Also, just because your muslim "neighbour" doesnt claim to be homophobic, do you automatically believe him??

Read and learn Taqqiya: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
 
Desert Storm said:
Worldwide, christianity doesnt commit the same amount of atrocities as Islam does. Its not even close.
Also, just because your muslim "neighbour" doesnt claim to be homophobic, do you automatically believe him??

Read and learn Taqqiya: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
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Well if they are then I’ll have let our lesbian friends know since we all play cards each weekend and attend school functions since the kids our lesbian friends are raising and theirs are in the same grade and extracurricular activities.

Sorry your bigoted comments are just that, bigoted and ignorant. :lamo
 
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