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Roy Moore in 2011: Getting rid of amendments after 10th would 'eliminate many problems'

TheGoverness said:
Roy's right! He right! When they put dat 'Mendment in there, it made errthang worse. Now look what's happened. We have to like, actually recognize African Americans as citizens now. An' u can't separate the white kids and black kids no more in public school, and the gays can get married now cuz of it!

Madness! Madness I tell you!
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And women vote! The world is ending.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Not challenging your opinion that he may be a sex offender, but what has he done that makes you accuse him of being a racist?
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Are you even aware what the amendments after the 10th do? There's a lot of good ones in there, you should read through them then tell us his opinion has nothing to do with race.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Are you even aware what the amendments after the 10th do? There's a lot of good ones in there, you should read through them then tell us his opinion has nothing to do with race.
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I'm familiar with all the amendments and 2 of them deal specifically with race. In totality, his statement was stupid, but at this point in time, "what difference does it make?" See, the headline gets most of the attention and not the details of what was said. The story specifically mentions his issues with the 14th and 17th amendments but he wasn't precise. The 14th is a varied amendment and I believe he was referencing birthright citizenship, not equal protection. Perhaps I'm mistaken and if he was addressing equal protection, then he is dead wrong.

So what amendments do you think aren't good ones? By the way, something can be about race which doesn't involve that person being a racist.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I'm familiar with all the amendments and 2 of them deal specifically with race. In totality, his statement was stupid, but at this point in time, "what difference does it make?" See, the headline gets most of the attention and not the details of what was said. The story specifically mentions his issues with the 14th and 17th amendments but he wasn't precise. The 14th is a varied amendment and I believe he was referencing birthright citizenship, not equal protection. Perhaps I'm mistaken and if he was addressing equal protection, then he is dead wrong.

So what amendments do you think aren't good ones? By the way, something can be about race which doesn't involve that person being a racist.
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If the amendments that gave minorities and women rights are the big sticking point for someone and everything would be "better" without them, they're a gigantic Sack of ****. Yes, I think wanting to repeal abolition is racist as ****.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
If the amendments that gave minorities and women rights are the big sticking point for someone and everything would be "better" without them, they're a gigantic Sack of ****. Yes, I think wanting to repeal abolition is racist as ****.
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If that were his sticking points, I agree.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Calling someone an offensive, racial slur, doesn't make one a racist.
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This is true enough.

AliHajiSheik said:
He said something stupid and your choose to interpret as though it were an coherent dissertation of an amendment by amendment argument of why each one should be done away with.
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But Moore didn't just state one stupid thing. Moore tends to compound his stupid things. And eventually these stupid things become a trend.
 
Anybody catch Moore's horseride to the polls? He should have taken a few more riding lessons before putting on his little boy's cowboy costume :lamo

Alabama Republicans, voting for the child molester cosplay cowboy. 2017, man.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I'm familiar with all the amendments and 2 of them deal specifically with race. In totality, his statement was stupid, but at this point in time, "what difference does it make?" See, the headline gets most of the attention and not the details of what was said. The story specifically mentions his issues with the 14th and 17th amendments but he wasn't precise. The 14th is a varied amendment and I believe he was referencing birthright citizenship, not equal protection. Perhaps I'm mistaken and if he was addressing equal protection, then he is dead wrong.

So what amendments do you think aren't good ones? By the way, something can be about race which doesn't involve that person being a racist.
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Something can be about race that doesn't involve that person being a racist?

Sure, for example, black people have dark skin.

Arguing in favor of "separate but equal" is, ... well, NOT so forgiving. Arguing that blacks and females shouldn't have rights is both racist and sexist. That's just what the words mean. You can't deny the nastiness of the explicit ideology on display by playing bait and switch with the terminology you use to describe it. That kind of shenanigan will only work on people who already agree with you.
 
ecofarm said:
Using race as a pejorative is inherently supremacist and thereby racist.
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This really doesn't make any sense. At some point you have to recognize where matters have crossed a BS line.
 
MSgt said:
This really doesn't make any sense. At some point you have to recognize where matters have crossed a BS line.
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A pejorative is using something to mean 'bad'. Using race to mean 'bad' is inherently supremacist.

Using female to mean 'bad' is sexist.

Using retard to mean 'bad' is derogatory to the challenged.

Using Christian to mean 'bad' is bigoted against Christians.

One cannot use a category of people to mean 'bad' without being inherently supremacist.
 
ecofarm said:
A pejorative is using something to mean 'bad'. Using race to mean 'bad' is inherently supremacist.
Using female to mean 'bad' is sexist.

Using retard to mean 'bad' is derogatory to the challenged.

Using Christian to mean 'bad' is bigoted against Christians.

One cannot use a category of people to mean 'bad' without being inherently supremacist.
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Good grief what even are you on about?

Using a bash against a "race," which is a man-made created category, is racist. What the hell are you even talking about?
 
Taylor said:
Wait, are you running for office? No? Guess we should ignore you too.
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Oh, did anyone bring up anything I said to try and justify something idiotic a hero of the far right said?

No?

Than that little fantasy there doesn't work.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
The 13th amendment does not mention skin color. A politician making an off the cuff statement is bound to say something incredibly stupid. If you can get a recording where he explicitly makes that statement about slavery, then I'll be in entire agreement that he is a racist. In the meantime, I'm not interested in being your buddy.
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No, but it does ban slavery, and slavery is extremely often racially motivated, designed to profess a false claim of superiority of one race over another.

Sorry buddy, you making rather sad excuses for somebody wanting to get rid of the amendment outlawing slavery because it'd "solve many problems" is extremely telling.
 
Tigerace117 said:
No, but it does ban slavery, and slavery is extremely often racially motivated, designed to profess a false claim of superiority of one race over another.

Sorry buddy, you making rather sad excuses for somebody wanting to get rid of the amendment outlawing slavery because it'd "solve many problems" is extremely telling.
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Again, I'm not your buddy and your insistence is disturbingly telling. If slavery is all you can see in the very complex 14th Amendment, there is nothing more to discuss and quite frankly, would be a waste of my time.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Again, I'm not your buddy and your insistence is disturbingly telling. If slavery is all you can see in the very complex 14th Amendment, there is nothing more to discuss and quite frankly, would be a waste of my time.
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Your hysteria over my use of the term "buddy" is hilarious, buddy.

It's really not that complicated. Nobody may discriminate/oppress/ deny American citizens their rights based on race, ethnicity, country of origin, etc.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Your hysteria over my use of the term "buddy" is hilarious, buddy.

It's really not that complicated. Nobody may discriminate/oppress/ deny American citizens their rights based on race, ethnicity, country of origin, etc.
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If that is the extent of your understanding of the 14th Amendment, then that confirms your ignorance and that discussing it further with you is a waste of your time.

I don't want to be your buddy, butt or otherwise. Troll someone else.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
If that is the extent of your understanding of the 14th Amendment, then that confirms your ignorance and that discussing it further with you is a waste of your time.

I don't want to be your buddy, butt or otherwise. Troll someone else.
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Oh look, you desperately trying to hand wave away the facts of the situation. Typical nonsense from you, buddy.
 
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