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What is Alt-Right?

Manc Skipper said:
This is the atheist tech right, and they hate cuckservatives too.
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The number of atheist on the right I have encountered in my life is maybe two. I can think of only one but there has to be another. And he/they was nothing like what is being described here. Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here who you feel would fit the alt-right description?
 
brothern said:
No, not a significant amount of people. Just people that are getting some sunshine because Trump's campaign is giving them attention.
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Is Trump giving them attention? Or is the left and the media giving them attention?
 
From what I can tell it's just something the left made up to describe certain people that they oppose.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Yes a little. That's allegedly where the GG stuff started, iirc. I avoid any of the chans like the plague now.
Reddit is fine, so is DP and some other places.
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Fletch said:
Is Trump giving them attention? Or is the left and the media giving them attention?
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8chan was started when the topic of GG was banned on 4chan. IE, even 4chan thought the line had been crossed and so users started another image board.
The Hillary / Star of David image that Trump retweeted come from 8chan's /pol/ board.
 
The alt-right general refers to the infowars, breitbart, or daily mail loyalists. Everything is a conspiracy and the traditional left and right are globalists that are trying to take away everyone's freedom and dominate the world. It is a highly paranoid and unstable group of gullible people. Not all Trump supporters are alt-right, but nearly all alt-right are Trump supporters.
 
Fletch said:
Exactly. Trump isn't right, alt-right, uber-right or super-duper-right. He is an opportunist. He is a lifelong left-leaning guy who saw an opportunity to acquire power by parroting some right wing phrases that he didn't and still doesn't fully understand or care to learn about.
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Exactly. It is the conservatives or what is now trying to be labeled as the alt right that began the never Trump movement. But the Democrats will throw tons of mud and hopes some of it sticks. But anyone with a bit of political knowledge knows Trump is far from being ultra right. Even his supporters stopped calling him a conservative, they now refer to Trump as a populist and the true conservatives as RINO's. How things change.

Conservatives Are The New RINOs
 
Fletch said:
Exactly. Trump isn't right, alt-right, uber-right or super-duper-right. He is an opportunist. He is a lifelong left-leaning guy who saw an opportunity to acquire power by parroting some right wing phrases that he didn't and still doesn't fully understand or care to learn about.
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I think he thinks in terms of economics not so much social issues. He sees that as why we are declining as a country.
 
brothern said:
8chan was started when the topic of GG was banned on 4chan. IE, even 4chan thought the line had been crossed and so users started another image board.
The Hillary / Star of David image that Trump retweeted come from 8chan's /pol/ board.
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Did Trump take it directly from there or did he see it retweeted elsewhere and just retweet it himself without checking its source because it was anti-Hillary? I cant imagine that Trump hangs out in those places.
 
Fletch said:
Did Trump take it directly from there or did he see it retweeted elsewhere and just retweet it himself without checking its source because it was anti-Hillary? I cant imagine that Trump hangs out in those places.
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No, but I imagine it was staffer rather than Trump.
 
Manc Skipper said:
The gamergate crew are decidedly illiberal.

" ...One account of their rise to political significance cites the 2014 Gamergate controversy. This vicious internet culture war took place between those who were pressing for a more inclusive video gaming culture (more women, less violence) and those who reacted against what they saw as a humourless leftwing threat to their enjoyment of guns and boobs. These burgeoning alt right gamers have little in common with traditional Republican conservatives and their evangelical Christian values. They don’t go to church. Indeed, many are aggressively atheistic.
Rather, they come together on blogs and online community forums like 4chan where they fulminate against social justice warriors – SJWs – who want to spoil their fun. They hate the liberal apparatus of the state, including the mainstream press and Ivy League academia that they collectively dub as The Cathedral. And they hate normies – normal people – and their repressive political philosophy, democracy. Instead of democracy, they propose that the US should be run like a large company with a CEO at its head, preferably one from Silicon Valley. Someone like PayPal founder Peter Thiel, whose views include : “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” But Trump will do for now. Oh, and only intelligent people should be in charge, and that means white people...."

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...t-is-old-racism-for-the-tech-savvy-generation
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Seriously? :lol:
 
Lutherf said:
It's just another term liberals are using to describe people who disagree with them....
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The term was not invented or promulgated by leftists. It was created by and for the alt-righters themselves. The name was coined in 2010 by a pair of white nationalists who started a website AlternativeRight.com (now defunct).

The alt-right is very different than traditional social or economic conservatism. They aren't interested in promoting traditional values, or elevating market forces to divine status. Rather, their goal is to fire off racist and sexist comments specifically to outrage other people. They tend to be younger, and involved in social media.

For example, it was the alt-right that savagely attacked Leslie Jones via Twitter a few weeks ago, gleefully inundating her account with racist and sexist insults, images of Harambe the gorilla (now their racist mascot, apparently), and making up fake Twitter accounts to attribute racist comments to Jones. This is not something that a conservative evangelical or a fiscal conservative would do.


The whole point of Progressivism is to split everyone up into certain demographics, demonize them, set them against each other and ultimately destroy society so that Progressives can come in and "fix" it all. It's classic Trotskyism.
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Please.

Progressives did not demarcate the lines between various flavors of conservatism (traditional, paleo, neo, fiscal, social, alt etc). Y'all came up with that yourselves.

Progressives did not invent the idea of demographics; if anything, it was the racists, slave-owners, segregationists, xenophobes and nativists who have wounded the consciousness of this nation with the separations that wound up developing into identity politics.

More to the point, the whole tribalist game of "in-group" and "out-group" is almost certainly an evolved trait. While the criteria can change at the drop of a hat, the desire to know who is Us and who is Them is deeply ingrained in human psychology.

The very act of trying to shove all "progressives" into a single uniform out-group is an example of an attempt to exploit this very tribalism, to split up society into different groups, demonize the Other, set everyone against that Other, and destroy the Other.

I.e. next time, you might want to look in a mirror, when you are, well, demonizing a group by claiming they demonize people....
 
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Visbek said:
The term was not invented or promulgated by leftists. It was created by and for the alt-righters themselves. The name was coined by a pair of white nationalists who started a website AlternativeRight.com (now defunct).

The alt-right is very different than traditional social or economic conservatism. They aren't interested in promoting traditional values, or elevating market forces to divine status. Rather, their goal is to fire off racist and sexist comments specifically to outrage other people. They tend to be younger, and involved in social media.

For example, it was the alt-right that savagely attacked Leslie Jones via Twitter a few weeks ago, gleefully inundating her account with racist and sexist insults, images of Harambe the gorilla (now their racist mascot, apparently), and making up fake Twitter accounts to attribute racist comments to Jones. This is not something that a conservative evangelical or a fiscal conservative would do.



Please.

Progressives did not demarcate the lines between various flavors of conservatism (traditional, paleo, neo, fiscal, social, alt etc). Y'all came up with that yourselves.

Progressives did not invent the idea of demographics; if anything, it was the racists, slave-owners, segregationists, xenophobes and nativists who have wounded the consciousness of this nation with the separations that wound up developing into identity politics.

More to the point, the whole tribalist game of "in-group" and "out-group" is almost certainly an evolved trait. While the criteria can change at the drop of a hat, the desire to know who is Us and who is Them is deeply ingrained in human psychology.

The very act of trying to shove all "progressives" into a single uniform out-group is an example of an attempt to exploit this very tribalism, to split up society into different groups, demonize the Other, set everyone against that Other, and destroy the Other.

I.e. next time, you might want to look in a mirror, when you are, well, demonizing a group by claiming they demonize people....
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The OP asked for a definition and without regard to where the term originated what I stated is what it's come to mean today. The progressive left has been pushing the term as an adjective describing Trump supporters specifically and Republicans as a whole by association.

https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/08/25/what-alt-right-guide-white-nationalist-movement-now-leading-conservative-media/212643
Clinton is attacking the 'Alt-Right' -- What is it? - CNNPolitics.com
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/24/whats-the-alt-right-a-primer/
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/us/politics/hillary-clinton-speech.html

It's rather obvious that the left, as I said, is making a grand attempt to rebrand anyone that doesn't support them as "alt-right". They are doing so because the candidate they are supporting is likely MORE flawed than Trump is and the last thing they want is a national conversation about her. It's pure Trotskyism.
 
Visbek said:
The term was not invented or promulgated by leftists. It was created by and for the alt-righters themselves. The name was coined in 2010 by a pair of white nationalists who started a website AlternativeRight.com (now defunct).

The alt-right is very different than traditional social or economic conservatism. They aren't interested in promoting traditional values, or elevating market forces to divine status. Rather, their goal is to fire off racist and sexist comments specifically to outrage other people. They tend to be younger, and involved in social media.

For example, it was the alt-right that savagely attacked Leslie Jones via Twitter a few weeks ago, gleefully inundating her account with racist and sexist insults, images of Harambe the gorilla (now their racist mascot, apparently), and making up fake Twitter accounts to attribute racist comments to Jones. This is not something that a conservative evangelical or a fiscal conservative would do.



Please.

Progressives did not demarcate the lines between various flavors of conservatism (traditional, paleo, neo, fiscal, social, alt etc). Y'all came up with that yourselves.

Progressives did not invent the idea of demographics; if anything, it was the racists, slave-owners, segregationists, xenophobes and nativists who have wounded the consciousness of this nation with the separations that wound up developing into identity politics.

More to the point, the whole tribalist game of "in-group" and "out-group" is almost certainly an evolved trait. While the criteria can change at the drop of a hat, the desire to know who is Us and who is Them is deeply ingrained in human psychology.

The very act of trying to shove all "progressives" into a single uniform out-group is an example of an attempt to exploit this very tribalism, to split up society into different groups, demonize the Other, set everyone against that Other, and destroy the Other.

I.e. next time, you might want to look in a mirror, when you are, well, demonizing a group by claiming they demonize people....
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^This.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Conspiracy theorists and racists = most Trump supporters. Notice how I didn't say ALL?
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So what percentage of the 41.7% of the people polled that say they are going to vote for Trump aren't racist?
 
Lutherf said:
The OP asked for a definition and without regard to where the term originated what I stated is what it's come to mean today. ...
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Or you could go to Brietbart and see them trumping themselves as alt-right with a long-winded article saying the att-right are way totes and honky-dorey.

Or ask Steve Bannon.
 
Casca XV said:
What is Alt-Right? I consume a lot of media (TV & Internet) and I don't remember hearing that term prior to 8-24-16. I have done some looking since and it sounds like the latest Left Wing Propaganda to slander Right leaning Libertarians.

Someone please educate me.
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Labels, such as this newest one from the Liberal/Socialist Progressive Machine, are required so it's followers can grab on to something they've been directed to look at.

In the era of extreme PC, labels are a tool to manipulate and add legitimacy to things that don't have to exist, but must have some form in order to attract those who live in fear of not being part of the "informed".
 
Stephen Bannon And Breitbart News

[White Supremacist Richard] Spencer said Breitbart News “has elective affinities with the Alt Right, and the Alt Right has clearly influenced Breitbart” and described the site as a “gateway” to that movement’s “ideas and writers.” He described Bannon’s new role in the Trump campaign as “a good thing” for white nationalists.


Bannon told Mother Jones that Breitbart News is “the platform for the alt-right.”


Bannon took over as chairman of Breitbart News after the death of founder Andrew Breitbart. The site has taken a rabidly anti-immigrant tone, often hyping “reports about crime involving immigrants, with headlines that sound like they came from tabloids” and attacking Republicans who favor immigration reform. Vox notes that “Breitbart essentially functioned as an anti-immigration pressure group, signaling to Republican leaders that any deviation on immigration would earn them the wrath of the base.”


The site has also pushed a white nationalist viewpoint in articles on race and religion. It described the shooting of a white reporter and her white cameraman as a “race murder” and published an article titled “Political Correctness Protects Muslim Rape Culture.”

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Paperview said:
Or you could go to Brietbart and see them trumping themselves as alt-right with a long-winded article saying the att-right are way totes and honky-dorey.

Or ask Steve Bannon.
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Or you could have quoted the rest of what I wrote too.

The agenda is crystal clear.
 
Lutherf said:
Or you could have quoted the rest of what I wrote too.

The agenda is crystal clear.
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You said: "The progressive left has been pushing the term as an adjective describing Trump supporters specifically and Republicans as a whole by association."

That's clearly not true. It's the right who embraced the term. Your own links disprove it.

Why would you deny it?
 
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