Sanders: Time to for common ground laws: Ban all guns not used for hunting.

[TurtleDude]

So only whitey should have guns?

I will try to explain the obvious to you

White americans mainly came from Europe. Many white Americans still have ties to Europe. White Americans have the highest rate of legal gun ownership in America-indeed in the free world. Yet White Americans-with all those guns and the availability of guns don't have any higher rates of gun violence than their counterparts in Eurosocialist gun banning nations. So obviously gun laws really don't matter when it comes to gun violence rates

 

[TurtleDude]

I've only lived in Vegas for five years. I was born and grew up in Hawaii and we had very low gun crime compared to the other states and Hawaii has strict gun control.

Yet gun registration in Hawaii has not done any good in solving crimes. You also are an Island isolated from the rest of the country with none of the border issues

 

[TurtleDude]

My god what a bunch of lunatics

wow, that's a significant contribution. Who are you referring to? Bernie the goofy socialist? Yeah I would agree with you there

 

[Jabbar]

I will try to explain the obvious to you

White americans mainly came from Europe. Many white Americans still have ties to Europe. White Americans have the highest rate of legal gun ownership in America-indeed in the free world. Yet White Americans-with all those guns and the availability of guns don't have any higher rates of gun violence than their counterparts in Eurosocialist gun banning nations. So obviously gun laws really don't matter when it comes to gun violence rates

Are you serious? You better check your "facts" about white Americans and their gun violence compared to your so called Euro-socialists

 

[Jabbar]

I will try to explain the obvious to you

White americans mainly came from Europe. Many white Americans still have ties to Europe. White Americans have the highest rate of legal gun ownership in America-indeed in the free world. Yet White Americans-with all those guns and the availability of guns don't have any higher rates of gun violence than their counterparts in Eurosocialist gun banning nations. So obviously gun laws really don't matter when it comes to gun violence rates

And another thing, handguns are almost 30 times more likely to shoot someone accidently then they are to be fired in a case of successful self-defense. But please, for our sale, own a few.

 

[TurtleDude]

Are you serious? You better check your "facts" about white Americans and their gun violence compared to your so called Euro-socialists

already done that and posted the evidence on this board. Gun control laws in the states are a complete waste of time as crime control measures. Then again harassing gun owners they work well which is of course what is their intended purpose

 

[TurtleDude]

And another thing, handguns are almost 30 times more likely to shoot someone accidently then they are to be fired in a case of successful self-defense. But please, for our sale, own a few.

that's crap for two reasons-the second being self defense is not based on what you do to an attacker but what that attacker dOES NOT DO TO YOU

 

[LaMidRighter]

The guy is a visionary leader. I think many many people could get behind this.

The guy is a senile old moron that hasn't figured out through history and long life that the ideas he espouses don't work. Anyone who holds on to failure for that long isn't a visionary, but rather a village idiot.

 

[LaMidRighter]

Guess I'll have to take up hunting. With handguns. I hear it's challenging.

Go on a few bear hunting trips, a minimum mandatory caliber side arm is required. In that case you are covered.

 

[LaMidRighter]

If there was a gun ban one of them wouldn't have a gun. See? eace

False, happens daily in gang infested areas. People with rap sheets longer than your arm have them at all times. In countries where firearms are mostly prohibited, guess what, the bad guys still end up with them. You may want to show a little credibility before issuing the same talking points the pro-2nd side has been destroying for over three decades. You are literally using poor arguments older than you are.

 

[LaMidRighter]

Lot harder to sneak guns into a country than from city to city

That is not true. There are thousands of miles of coastline and political borders and only a handful of law enforcement agents combined, in a country this size they can be brought into just about any semi-known beach or desert area. They could be brought in as a pallet of coffee for all you know, there is this little thing called smuggling that has existed for millennia. :lamo

 

[NonoBadDog]

My god what a bunch of lunatics

Yeah, can you believe those gun banners? They come up with all sorts of asshat ideas.

 

[LaMidRighter]

1) people for the most part need cars no one needs a gun
2) the man hours spent interacting with cars (both your own and others) is an order of magnitude higher than man hours spent with guns.

Yeah, see, here is where you are going to lose the argument.
1) The common argument from environmentalists(left wing) is that there isn't enough public transportation and too many cars, and in many very large metropolitan areas having a car is a disadvantage because there are so many of them that you get stuck in traffic so taking the subway, a taxi, or even walking actually saves time. But hey, why let a one size fits all argument go to waste.
2) You have no clue how many times you have been in the presence of a firearm, both legally and illegally concealed handguns are at least a weekly occurrence pretty much in all 50 states of the U.S. whether you like that or not. You have probably encountered at least 10 of every 100 people concealing in the least gun friendly state you can think of.

 

[LaMidRighter]

Tim McVeigh killed with a UHaul and some fertilizer. Ted Bundy strangled and/or bludgeoned his victims.

The Oklahoma bombing was the worst domestic terror incident in U.S. history, using simple items found in any good hardware store and gas station. The worst school massacre in U.S. history happened at the hands of Andrew Kohoe, a disgruntled farmer who was displaced from his land at a lowball price to build a schoolhouse, he used TNT to kill 38 children, himself, and six other adults, more than 58 additional people were wounded in a series of explosions. The worst school massacre happened in Chechnya, a heavily restricted gun ownership country, thousands, second worst was Norway at a youth camp(not a gun friendly country).

Then there was the NYC nightclub fire started by a Cuban refugee who was angry that his girlfriend was dancing with other men, 1$ of gasoline and a match cost over 70 people their lives. The list goes on, from the Tokyo subway massacre(sarin) to the attempted genocide of the Kurds(chemical). People who want to cause mass loss of life will find a way to maximize their chances of doing so, and usually the firearm is the least efficient way to do so, unless of course the idiots for gun control get their way and disarm the good guys(see Chechnya and Norway).

 

[LaMidRighter]

LOL I bet snacks kill more Americans every year than guns, by far.

Seriously.

When you factor in heart attacks, allergies, and other diseases? I guarantee it.

 

[LaMidRighter]

I haven't. I'm not a coward

Ever had a knife pulled on you? Had that knife draw blood from you? I have, and guess what, the guy that made me bleed was ten times more scared of me after my reaction to getting cut. I didn't have a firearm on me then, and guess what, I do own one and have been shooting for years, I PROMISE you I have had more incidents than you can imagine and owning a gun has nothing to do with cowardice. It's easy to say you're tough on the internet, much harder when you are face to face with someone who is willing and able to hurt you.

 

[LaMidRighter]

That post is pretty much invalid garbage. I hope that isn't a norm for you. My AR-15 isn't an assault weapon. I sure like it. I am thinking about building the .308 version, the AR-10, just for grins. I have some other projects I need to get done first.

I just can't find a desire or utility for my own needs with the Armalite platform. I do however want to find a good bullpup .308 design due to narrow halls and tight corners.

 

[LaMidRighter]

I'm tired of seeing psychopaths walk into crowded places and shoot people up. Aren't you??

It doesn't happen in other countries like it does here.

And that statement is completely full of it. Norway, second worst child massacre in world history, over 78. Chechnya, THOUSANDS of children murdered by a terrorist group. In both of those countries, heavy gun control. You lose. :lol:

 

[BretJ]

I haven't. I'm not a coward

Of course you are not.....
What you are is self centered, inconsiderate and what we used to call an einbahn....one way.

Of course you have never considered that others are not highly skilled in the uber deadly arts of the mall ninja such as you are....

 

[Master PO]

God help us if this man gets elected.

Amendment II


House of Representatives, Amendments to the Constitution

17, 20 Aug. 1789


Mr. Gerry.--This declaration of rights, I take it, is intended to secure the people against the mal-administration of the Government;

 

[jet57]

God help us if this man gets elected.

I would agree.

Hillary's lookin pretty good now eh?

 

[Casper]

I just can't find a desire or utility for my own needs with the Armalite platform. I do however want to find a good bullpup .308 design due to narrow halls and tight corners.

.308 is hard to find in compact forms and for small spaces the 5.56 can hold it's own, but if you want a different sort of platform that would fit the Bill look at KRISS they make compact firearms that can do the job. Not cheap, but high quality and reliable.

 

[TurtleDude]

I would agree.

Hillary's lookin pretty good now eh?

if you consider her lying about TS emails on her personal computer looking good?

she's a pathetic POS but Bernie's a far left barking loon

 

[NonoBadDog]

I would agree.

Hillary's lookin pretty good now eh?

Uhhh, no.

 

[LaMidRighter]

.308 is hard to find in compact forms and for small spaces the 5.56 can hold it's own, but if you want a different sort of platform that would fit the Bill look at KRISS they make compact firearms that can do the job. Not cheap, but high quality and reliable.

Never heard of that company but always appreciate a lead. The reason I like .308 for home defense is pretty much the instant stop nature of it. I am not a huge fan of tumble rounds like the .223 or 5.72 though I know in CQC that isn't as much of a factor. My biggest issue is a long barrel in a narrow hallway, I am usually aware but anyone can experience a blind corner ambush.