Protesters take to streets after Trump rally in California

[ocean515]

Let's be fair.
Only maybe half those people are paid for being there.
The other half just carry the signs & flags the first half brought for them.

In 2006, legal and illegal aliens marched in Los Angeles, waving the flag of Mexico. Witnesses to the event were outraged, and it really set back their agenda.



As they continue to prove they have no interest in the United States, and only want to exploit the stupidity of those delusional enough to think otherwise, one hopes these protests garner the same reaction from citizens here.

 

[bubbabgone]

In 2006, legal and illegal aliens marched in Los Angeles, waving the flag of Mexico. Witnesses to the event were outraged, and it really set back their agenda.

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As they continue to prove they have no interest in the United States, and only want to exploit the stupidity of those delusional enough to think otherwise, one hopes these protests garner the same reaction from citizens here.

I imagine assimilation is not on their top 10 list.

 

[apdst]

There is always a risk in any protest of some people losing control. It shouldn't sully the purpose and/or the message. Trump is a lightening rod for polarizing people. Gee, I wonder why?

He's a lightening rod, because he's turning over the big government apple cart.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

I imagine assimilation is not on their top 10 list.

Good, then give them a comparable wage to what they'd make in Mexico (currently, their minimum wage is about $3.50/hr). Give them homes that resemble homes in Mexico. Only give them benefits that they'd receive in Mexico (no unemployment insurance, etc.). Again...you're not going to see US citizens going to...say...France, and demanding that France start treating them like they want.

Here in the Midwest, we have large communities of Slavic and Bosnian immigrants. You never see them protesting. They assimilate. They're grateful for what they have here. They DON'T want to go back to Bosnia, nor do they want to transform their communities into reproductions of Bosnia.

 

[ocean515]

I imagine assimilation is not on their top 10 list.

Si, quieren asumir el control.

 

[bubbabgone]

Si, quieren asumir el control.

With things like Sanctuary cities and product directions in Spanish why would anyone think that's not being encouraged?

 

[Grant]

In 2006, legal and illegal aliens marched in Los Angeles, waving the flag of Mexico. Witnesses to the event were outraged, and it really set back their agenda.

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As they continue to prove they have no interest in the United States, and only want to exploit the stupidity of those delusional enough to think otherwise, one hopes these protests garner the same reaction from citizens here.

Yes, these people can do for California what they've done for Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua. They'll straighten it out in no time.

 

[ocean515]

Yes, these people can do for California what they've done for Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua. They'll straighten it out in no time.

It's interesting to view support for people who failed to succeed in countries where it's difficult to fail, and who want to bring the culture of failure here. Displaying general disregard for laws and values that made the United States a success, they think their failure model is worthy of support.

Is there any reason to question the origin of the growing economic failure of California?

 

[Grant]

It's interesting to view support for people who failed to succeed in countries where it's difficult to fail, and who want to bring the culture of failure here. Displaying general disregard for laws and values that made the United States a success, they think their failure model is worthy of support.

Is there any reason to question the origin of the growing economic failure of California?

Those countries colonized by the Spanish, despite having mild climates, good weather, excellent locations for international trade etc. are, for the most part, economic basket cases. The same is true of Spain in Europe. I spend a great deal of time in Central America and there is a muchl to admire about the people, but part of the culture is bowing to authority too easily, and being too acceptable for the way things are. Stoicism is fine to point but some have carried it too far.

The Nicaraguan people have to be among the hardest working in the world, I like them a great deal, but they live in hovels for the most part and barely get enough to eat. The west should be pointing fingers at the corruption in these countries rather than blaming themselves for not doing enough financially.

 

[ocean515]

Those countries colonized by the Spanish, despite having mild climates, good weather, excellent locations for international trade etc. are, for the most part, economic basket cases. The same is true of Spain in Europe. I spend a great deal of time in Central America and there is a muchl to admire about the people, but part of the culture is bowing to authority too easily, and being too acceptable for the way things are. Stoicism is fine to point but some have carried it too far.

The Nicaraguan people have to be among the hardest working in the world, I like them a great deal, but they live in hovels for the most part and barely get enough to eat. The west should be pointing fingers at the corruption in these countries rather than blaming themselves for not doing enough financially.

I agree wholeheartedly with your conclusion and observations. It appears to be a cultural failing, rather than a failing in individual initiative. Overall, they are extremely hard working, and family oriented. Yet, the corruption and "that's the way it is" attitude is what compounds the problems.

That is the problem with this massive cultural invasion being encouraged by liberal/socialist progressives. This cultural failing is visible throughout Southern California. Once prosperous cities are now turning into run down reflections of the countries the new inhabitants left behind.

Those who come here legally don't bring this broad cultural viewpoint with them. They in fact left if behind because it would seem they recognized this failing as institutional, and were willing to make the sacrifice and take to risk to strive for a better future. The illegals are just here to exploit. There desire to remain has nothing to do with wanting to become citizens, they just want to take money from legal citizens, and not worry about being caught and deported. The word "leech" comes to mind.

 

[Tigerace117]

You dont beleive in freedom then. Exactly why we need to split.

:lamo

Good luck with that.

 

[Ahlevah]

Alexei? Is that you?

Nope, just someone who's warming up to Trump thanks to the nitwits in Chicago, Costa Mesa, and Burlingame. (John Boehener's trashing of Ted Cruz didn't help my choice of Cruz, either. I mean, Cruz, according to Boehner, is "Lucifer in the flesh," a "jackass," and "a miserable son of a bitch" while Trump is his "golf buddy"? Ouch! uch: I guess, among other things, Boehner didn't take to his portrayal by the Cruz campaign as a drunkard. Frankly, it turned me off, too. In politics, it helps to be liked, especially by the former Speaker of the House.)

 

[Grant]

Nope, just someone who's warming up to Trump thanks to the nitwits in Chicago, Costa Mesa, and Burlingame. (John Boehener's trashing of Ted Cruz didn't help my choice of Cruz, either. I mean, Cruz, according to Boehner, is "Lucifer in the flesh," a "jackass," and "a miserable son of a bitch" while Trump is his "golf buddy"? Ouch! uch: I guess, among other things, Boehner didn't take to his portrayal by the Cruz campaign as a drunkard. Frankly, it turned me off, too. In politics, it helps to be liked, especially by the former Speaker of the House.)

Can Boehner really survive trashing Ted Crus while not mentioning Harry Reid? You needn't be a Cruz fan to realize the hypocrisy, or the lack of perspective and party loyalty during an election campaign.

 

[radcen]

In 2006, legal and illegal aliens marched in Los Angeles, waving the flag of Mexico. Witnesses to the event were outraged, and it really set back their agenda.

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As they continue to prove they have no interest in the United States, and only want to exploit the stupidity of those delusional enough to think otherwise, one hopes these protests garner the same reaction from citizens here.

1) Are they Spanish-decent Mexicans? If so, then even by their own criteria they're not in their homeland.

2) The area was ceded to the US after a war, and they agreed to it. Denied.

 

[Ahlevah]

Can Boehner really survive trashing Ted Crus while not mentioning Harry Reid? You needn't be a Cruz fan to realize the hypocrisy, or the lack of perspective and party loyalty during an election campaign.

Boehner retired from congress, so he can survive playing golf. (Plus his credibility rating just went up, IMHO.) And I think he's just telling folks loudly and clearly whom he supports for the Republican nomination. Nothing wrong with shooting straight from the hip. Besides, if Cruz valued Boehner's loyalty, he shouldn't have intimated in a political ad that he's an alcoholic or called him a liar like he does everyone else.

 

[foadi]

Re: Donald Trump CA protest

I grew up in L.A. and live here, and I like Cruz. And there are quite a few others like me--I know, because I've met them. The suburbs of L.A. and Orange County are more conservative than people who aren't familiar with California might think. Some of those people support Trump, but others have not put their brains in neutral.

The suburbs and exurbs of LA are nowhere near as conservative as they used to be.

I have seen exactly zero Cruz support in CA. Been selling candidate gear most of the year around the state and haven't sold a single Cruz item. Have registered/updated voter registration for approx 1500 people in CA this cycle and not a single one of them has expressed interest in the guy. I would be supremely pissed if Cruz wins. A Trump nomination equals a fun filled summer and fall of working county fairs and rallies trolling liberals and making a lot of money in the process selling Trump gear. Can't do the same with Cruz because literally no one likes the guy. Can't move his product. Would be stuck working boring low paying GOTV crap or something this election cycle. I'm fairly certain the only reason he is getting any votes is because he is not Trump. Or his voters are weird religious people.

 

[clownboy]

Can Boehner really survive trashing Ted Crus while not mentioning Harry Reid? You needn't be a Cruz fan to realize the hypocrisy, or the lack of perspective and party loyalty during an election campaign.

Boehner is retiring. He's already survived.

 

[jet57]

Re: Donald Trump CA protest

once again you prove that you really have no argument, but worse
attempt to defend destruction of property and beating people up.

so much for the party of tolerance and open mindedness.

no they were tipping that car over until a policeman showed up and ran them off.
I know I saw the video. it was very clear what they were doing.

Where have I defended said behavior? I said that L.A. was bad and the nothing happened in Burlingame, and that's a fact. The cop car tipping was in L.A. and the one I saw was about eight guys who kept rocking it but couldn't get it off the ground so they gave up. They were stupid down there.

But zero happened in Burlingame. There nobody there this morning, so it was all about Trump.

The liberal hoard is NOT going to take your children so stop trying make up something that just plain isn't there.

 

[jet57]

My article demonstrates that something indeed happened.

In L.A. yeah.

 

[Ahlevah]

Those countries colonized by the Spanish, despite having mild climates, good weather, excellent locations for international trade etc. are, for the most part, economic basket cases. The same is true of Spain in Europe. I spend a great deal of time in Central America and there is a muchl to admire about the people, but part of the culture is bowing to authority too easily, and being too acceptable for the way things are. Stoicism is fine to point but some have carried it too far.

The Nicaraguan people have to be among the hardest working in the world, I like them a great deal, but they live in hovels for the most part and barely get enough to eat. The west should be pointing fingers at the corruption in these countries rather than blaming themselves for not doing enough financially.

If I had to place my finger on the biggest difference between former Spanish colonies and British colonies it would be the culture of corruption in the Spanish colonies that flourished because they didn't have the political institutions or a system of checks and balances to prevent it. Much of the history of Latin America revolves around serial revolutions or political coups that ushered in one dictator after another. The rule of law was whatever el Jefe said it was. After the Mexican Revolution, you had presidents from the same political party who lined up for their turn at the patronage trough, with little to no accountability or opposition.

People who live in former British colonies should wake up every morning and pray at an altar created to worship Sir William Blackstone, among others.

 

[jet57]

What are you talking about? The post I linked to was made by someone called "legalimmigrant." Is that you? As far as the photo of the little Mexican kid standing in front of a Mexican flag while holding a sign that reads "Make America Mexico again," my understanding is that took place at the California Republican Convention in Burlingame, and, truth be told, it is something that happened for lot of Americans. It pisses them off, especially because they know some adult put the kid up to it. In any case, why would anyone want to make America Mexico again? So they can screw it up, too, just like the mother country?

Well, the spot I kept winding up at is what I told you. And no, I'm not "legalimmigrant" either. A kid like that with a flag would have made the news up here I can guarantee you, but nobody reported it. The right, is mixing up the events in order to make hay about "the liberal hoard". The venue in L.A. was much larger, and Burlingame (northern California) was a hotel dining room.

I don't believe in that radical Mexican "take California back" BS either, and for some stupid adult to make their kid hold sign like that just tells you another reason why I don't like it. I wish the California Latino kids were being taught that Mexico gave it to us after they lost war.

 

[Ahlevah]

Re: Donald Trump CA protest

But zero happened in Burlingame. There nobody there this morning, so it was all about Trump.

Not for lack of trying. The story's the same, whether it's Chicago, Costa Mesa, Burlingame, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, or wherever: Prevent Trump from speaking. That's what I would expect to see in some tin-pot or communist dictatorship, not the U.S. These people are un-American and need to find a new place to call home. North Korea sounds good.

 

[apdst]

In L.A. yeah.

I'm Burlingame, too. Refer to the link I posted.

 

[ludin]

Re: Donald Trump CA protest

Where have I defended said behavior? I said that L.A. was bad and the nothing happened in Burlingame, and that's a fact. The cop car tipping was in L.A. and the one I saw was about eight guys who kept rocking it but couldn't get it off the ground so they gave up. They were stupid down there.

They didn't give up a cop came over and stopped them.

But zero happened in Burlingame. There nobody there this morning, so it was all about Trump.

could careless.

The liberal hoard is NOT going to take your children so stop trying make up something that just plain isn't there.

and the typical nonsense that you spout. no one has mentioned anything about this.
we are talking about the group of people that were punching people in the face and attempting
to destroy public property though.

maybe you should deal with that horde as you call it.

 

[jet57]

Re: Donald Trump CA protest

Not for lack of trying. The story's the same, whether it's Chicago, Costa Mesa, Burlingame, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, or wherever: Prevent Trump from speaking. That's what I would expect to see in some tin-pot or communist dictatorship, not the U.S. These people are un-American and need to find a new place to call home.

People across the country HATE Trump! What happens when union people try to exercise their fee speech rights and defense of their jobs when they picket? Are they given the respect they are due? Not hardly. Why is that?

Political demonstrations happen all the time, so what's your point?