Missouri Lawmaker Wants To Revoke Scholarships If Athletes Protest

[TheDemSocialist]

Legislation introduced in Missouri would strip college athletes of their scholarshipsif they refuse to play for any reason "unrelated to health."The proposal, filed Friday by state Rep. Rick Brattin, comes a month after the University of Missouri was roiled by protests in which 30 black football players refused to show up unless President Tim Wolfe resigned. Days later, Wolfe announced he would step down.
Brattin's plan would revoke scholarships for any protesting college athlete and fine coaching staff members who encourage it. Brattin's office didn't immediately answer a request for comment.
The St. Louis Post Dispatch notes that Mizzou's athletic scholarships are raised through private resources and aren't linked to any state funds. It's unclear how the bill would affect money the state doesn't supply.

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Refusing to play for any other reason other than health? :shock: Also as pointed out in the article and the article linked, the money used for athletic scholarships at Mizzou is not state money, its privately donated money, so why is the state legislature getting involved in this at all if it does not affect state resources?

 

[Gaius46]

Hard to see how he can make that happen considering that article points that the scholarships are privately funded and don't use government money.

 

[Paleocon]

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Refusing to play for any other reason other than health? :shock: Also as pointed out in the article and the article linked, the money used for athletic scholarships at Mizzou is not state money, its privately donated money, so why is the state legislature getting involved in this at all if it does not affect state resources? [/FONT][/COLOR]

Good. If they don't do what they get the scholarship for, they should be stripped of it. It may not be state money, but a state institution is in control of it.

Frankly I think the whole concept of sports scholarships is stupid, but that's a separate argument.

 

[reinoe]

Rick Brattin is the conservative State Representative serving central Cass County.

As soon as I heard that a lawmaker was proposing legislation to deny someone of their first Amendment rights and to create more unnecessary big government initiatives I knew a conservative Republican would be involved.

 

[Gaius46]

Good. If they don't do what they get the scholarship for, they should be stripped of it. It may not be state money, but a state institution is in control of it.

Frankly I think the whole concept of sports scholarships is stupid, but that's a separate argument.

Interesting point. I didn't consider it from the perspective that the school is the one who is making the decisions as to who gets the scholarships. I don't know if that changes my opinion but it makes it much less clear cut to me.

I agree though that sports scholarships are stupid. The reality though is that football brings in a lot more money to the school than winning math competitions. That's wrong but it's the way it is right now.

 

[ThePlayDrive]

He's a racist and an idiot. :shrug:

 

[Manc Skipper]

Yay for Mocrasy n' freem speech!

 

[Jetboogieman]

Yay for Mocrasy n' freem speech!

To people like him freedom usually means freedom from not freedom to...

 

[ludin]

Hard to see how he can make that happen considering that article points that the scholarships are privately funded and don't use government money.

Once the money is given to the college it becomes state money. it doesn't matter if it is private or not. it is a resource of the school
therefore it is a resource of the state.

 

[ludin]

As soon as I heard that a lawmaker was proposing legislation to deny someone of their first Amendment rights and to create more unnecessary big government initiatives I knew a conservative Republican would be involved.

he isn't denying anyone their first amendment rights. they can speak out all they want to, but when it is time for practice or time for a game they need to show up.
however there scholarship is to play football for the school.

that is basically their contract. if they don't want to play then they lose their scholarships. pretty simple.

 

[ludin]

He's a racist and an idiot. :shrug:

you evidently don't know what racist means that or are you saying that all of the athletes on the team are black?

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Really? They can't wait until the students are out of college and part of corporate America before drumming all traces of social conscience out of them? They have to do it while they are still in college and idealistic? What's the rush?

 

[Gaius46]

Once the money is given to the college it becomes state money. it doesn't matter if it is private or not. it is a resource of the school
therefore it is a resource of the state.

Yeah Paleocon pointed that out in his post. I agree provided the school and the state comply with any strings that the donors attached.
I'm not sure that it's a good though. Dissent and challenging authority when you believe they are wrong is something that schools should encourage. Stifling that doesn't seem to further the goal of developing independent thinking citizens.

 

[ludin]

Yeah Paleocon pointed that out in his post. I agree provided the school and the state comply with any strings that the donors attached.
I'm not sure that it's a good though. Dissent and challenging authority when you believe they are wrong is something that schools should encourage. Stifling that doesn't seem to further the goal of developing independent thinking citizens.

they can challenge them all they wan to, but they signed a contract to play a sport for the school in exchange for a scholarship.
if they want to violate that then they can but then they will lose that scholarship.

it is a life lesson.

 

[Kal'Stang]

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Refusing to play for any other reason other than health? :shock: Also as pointed out in the article and the article linked, the money used for athletic scholarships at Mizzou is not state money, its privately donated money, so why is the state legislature getting involved in this at all if it does not affect state resources? [/FONT][/COLOR]

Personally I'm surprised as hell that this wasn't already a clause in the contract of receiving the scholarship.

 

[Shadowless]

This is clearly against the students 1st amendment rights. Unconstitutional and illegal action by the University.

 

[Caine]

Really? They can't wait until the students are out of college and part of corporate America before drumming all traces of social conscience out of them? They have to do it while they are still in college and idealistic? What's the rush?

If I were a person who privately funded a sports scholarship for deserving athletes........ I would expect that they ****ing show up to practice and games and not take my money while being a whiney little protesting bitch.


But, hey, maybe that is just me.

 

[Ray410]

Really? They can't wait until the students are out of college and part of corporate America before drumming all traces of social conscience out of them? They have to do it while they are still in college and idealistic? What's the rush?

That would be the Liberal definition of a social conscience all right; Irresponsible behavior paid for by someone else.

Anyone who would use a college athletic scholarship to spend their time whining about what a victim he is is too stupid to have a college degree.

 

[reinoe]

If I were a person who privately funded a sports scholarship for deserving athletes........ I would expect that they ****ing show up to practice and games and not take my money while being a whiney little protesting bitch.


But, hey, maybe that is just me.

Perhaps that's your expectation, but private funds are misused all the time by charities. If you don't want your private donation misused, don't donate.

 

[nota bene]

Really? They can't wait until the students are out of college and part of corporate America before drumming all traces of social conscience out of them? They have to do it while they are still in college and idealistic? What's the rush?

I'm going to have to disagree with you and say that it's never too soon to learn about accountability and due obligations.

 

[Casper]

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Refusing to play for any other reason other than health? :shock: Also as pointed out in the article and the article linked, the money used for athletic scholarships at Mizzou is not state money, its privately donated money, so why is the state legislature getting involved in this at all if it does not affect state resources? [/FONT][/COLOR]

Yes by all means let's use the Law to take away peoples rights, sooner or later that will come back to bite one in the rear, hard.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

More and more evidence that student athletes need a Union.

 

[Peter King]

Good. If they don't do what they get the scholarship for, they should be stripped of it. It may not be state money, but a state institution is in control of it.

Frankly I think the whole concept of sports scholarships is stupid, but that's a separate argument.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

How can this lawmaker want to violate the right to peaceably assembly and their right to freedom of speech? That they receive scholarships has not bearing on their constitutional right to peaceably assemble and voice their opinion.

 

[cpwill]

How can this lawmaker want to violate the right to peaceably assembly and their right to freedom of speech? That they receive scholarships has not bearing on their constitutional right to peaceably assemble and voice their opinion.

No, it is contingent on their willingness to play football. If the scholarships were being stripped for speech taking place away from game/practice/school, then that's a very different matter. But someone who takes a scholarship to play football losing their scholarship when they refuse to play football? I can understand that. If I went into my boss and said "F You I'm Not Working Anymore", his response would (rightly) be "Okedoke, Pack Your Stuff So We Don't Have To Toss It Out".

 

[Peter King]

No, it is contingent on their willingness to play football. If the scholarships were being stripped for speech taking place away from game/practice/school, then that's a very different matter. But someone who takes a scholarship to play football losing their scholarship when they refuse to play football? I can understand that. If I went into my boss and said "F You I'm Not Working Anymore", his response would (rightly) be "Okedoke, Pack Your Stuff So We Don't Have To Toss It Out".

I disagree, and also, not the governments money so it is none of their business IMHO.