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Carrie Fisher Had Cocaine, Heroin, Ecstasy in Her System, Autopsy Shows

Hawkeye10 said:
Is this even an accepted autopsy cause of death because I did a little look on the web and I am not sure that it is.
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It is.

Carrie Fisher Cause of Death Detailed by Coroner | Time.com

Sleep Apnea May Boost Risk of Sudden Cardiac Death ? WebMD

Snored to death: The symptoms and dangers of untreated sleep apnea - Harvard Health Blog - Harvard Health Publications

Meanwhile, back in the real world: The same coroner who believes that a pre-existing cardiac condition exacerbated by sleep apnea was the one who delivered the toxicology report.

There is no "victim culture" involved in finding out and discussing facts.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The Celeb Culture and Victim Culture advocates are sure to not appreciate your refusal to go along with their "She died of Sleep Apnea" story....

Is this even an accepted autopsy cause of death because I did a little look on the web and I am not sure that it is.

Not that we can assume this would matter with a Hollywood coroner.

American corruption being what it is.
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It doesn't matter to me. She could have had sleep apnea and it can play a role, but the large amount of drug consumption is actually
a primary.
 
Fenton said:
Wow, she talked about her prolific cocaine use during Empire and Return of the Jedi

She was just a kid back then
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Yep but it was pretty much known that she was into cocaine really bad even back then.
 
Gina said:
Heart arrhythmia can occur at any time. It can occur like this:

Heart arrhythmia Overview - Mayo Clinic

And then it turns in to a heart attack.

Look at my reply to truthatallcost. Fisher acknowledged her problems all her life and her daughter is continuing to do so in an effort to attract attention to drug addiction and mental health. She is not underplaying it, in the least.
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Wasn't talking about her family underplaying it. I was talking about the Coroner underplaying it.
 
backpacker said:
How would sleep apnea contribute to one's death if they were not asleep at the time? I assumed she was awake on the plane but I don't know.
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Damages the circulatory system over time. So too does cocaine. And fatty build-up in her arteries is yet another health issue she apparently had.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Holy ****, that's... that's a lot of drugs.
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Bear in mind they can be detected for different amounts of times in the blood. Cocaine, 3ish days, maybe more (years in the hair, apparently). Heroin is more like 7-12 days. So on and so forth.



So basically, she was quite obviously taking various drugs at various times in the weeks leading up to her death, but not necessarily right before it.
 
truthatallcost said:
The sleep apnea angle was probably released by a publicist or family member. Understandable that most families don't want to acknowledge drug use as the cause of death.
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" The assistant reported that she was awake and normal at the beginning of the flight, but had “multiple apneic episodes, which was her baseline” during the flight."
 
Dragonfly said:
Let's be real.

She OD'd. Period.
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She did, and Janis and Jimmy and many hundreds or thousands of others, well known and obscure. C'est la vie.
 
Mr Person said:
" The assistant reported that she was awake and normal at the beginning of the flight, but had “multiple apneic episodes, which was her baseline” during the flight."
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Taking heroin, cocaine, ecstasy and alcohol together at 60 years old is a recipe for disaster. I think the drug aspect shouldn't be downplayed here, as it might serve as a warning to other people. Fisher's own daughter stated that drug use and mental illness killed her mom.

I don't judge Carrie Fisher for her problems. But I also understand that some people will be pricks about this, and call her a druggie, etc.
 
backpacker said:
How would sleep apnea contribute to one's death if they were not asleep at the time? I assumed she was awake on the plane but I don't know.
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Untreated sleep apnea can lead to all sorts of heart issues.
 
Mr Person said:
Bear in mind they can be detected for different amounts of times in the blood. Cocaine, 3ish days, maybe more (years in the hair, apparently). Heroin is more like 7-12 days. So on and so forth.



So basically, she was quite obviously taking various drugs at various times in the weeks leading up to her death, but not necessarily right before it.
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Okay, that clears some things up. That's still a lot of drugs, though.
 
KevinKohler said:
You left out rectal bleeding, excessive sweat, dry mouth, inability to safely operate heavy machinery, suicidal thoughts or tendencies, and death.
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Talk about missing the point: drug users wouldn't be addicted if they didn't feel like they were getting something out of it.
 
ludin said:
Honestly that was just a minor cause. her constant drug abuse was a bigger factor.
and did more damage to her.
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Based on... the simple fact that she used drugs?

I don't suppose you've ever heard of a distinction being drawn between correlation and causation?
 
truthatallcost said:
Taking heroin, cocaine, ecstasy and alcohol together at 60 years old is a recipe for disaster. I think the drug aspect shouldn't be downplayed here, as it might serve as a warning to other people. Fisher's own daughter stated that drug use and mental illness killed her mom.

I don't judge Carrie Fisher for her problems. But I also understand that some people will be pricks about this, and call her a druggie, etc.
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What makes you think she took those drugs at the same time?
 
Absentglare said:
Talk about missing the point: drug users wouldn't be addicted if they didn't feel like they were getting something out of it.
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Initially, yes. The continuance of drug use is due to chemical addiction.
 
KevinKohler said:
Initially, yes. The continuance of drug use is due to chemical addiction.
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Which brings with it emotional satisfaction.

Have you ever asked an addict why they continue to use? Because it feels better than quitting, because they simply want to.

Their mind isn't being controlled by some external device. It's an intrinsic desire.
 
Absentglare said:
Which brings with it emotional satisfaction.

Have you ever asked an addict why they continue to use? Because it feels better than quitting, because they simply want to.

Their mind isn't being controlled by some external device. It's an intrinsic desire.
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Your emotional state, and your mind, are controlled by chemicals produced by your body.

If your opinion were true, quitting cold turkey wouldn't be lethal, as it all too often is.
 
KevinKohler said:
Your emotional state, and your mind, are controlled by chemicals produced by your body.

If your opinion were true, quitting cold turkey wouldn't be lethal, as it all too often is.
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If it were a purely physical dependence, there would be no psychological addiction and it would be trivially easy to quit by tapering off.

But it's not easy to quit. The big hurdle is developing a robust desire to quit, because the desire to keep using is so strong, because the chemical induced satisfaction is so much more appealing than a life of sobriety.
 
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