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How to Deal With Your White Guilt

PirateMk1 said:
No we are NOT. We are not responsible. This whole notion of reparations for actions long ago perpetrated by people long dead to people long dead is bunk. We are NOT responsible for the sins of or ancestors. I dont not accept the notion of reparations in the case you suggest as valid. It is a shill notion promoted by shysters and poverty pimps.
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So 13% of the population just continues to suffer injustice? Bad plan.
 
ecofarm said:
So 13% of the population just continues to suffer injustice? Bad plan.
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First of all your whole notion injustice is a load of crap. Second you want to "help" then whip YOUR pocketbook out, and start writing checks from your own account.
 
ecofarm said:
You don't understand what reparations are for. They're not payments to former slaves. They're an attempt to correct disproportional representation in power, wealth and politics resulting from slavery and two hundred years of injustice.
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This is what reparations are about:

"These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again."
Democratic President LBJ
 
Moot said:
The injustices that blacks endured for the 100 or so years that followed the civil war entitles them to reparations of some sort. The government systemically discriminated against blacks which prevented them from getting loans to start businesses and buy homes and build wealth.
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So?

Everyone in their brother had a hard time back then.

How about the Quakers, they were running from King George. Do you want to give them reparations too?

Tell ya what - some of my ancestors died fighting the Nazis and Communists in World War II - how about I get some reparations too?

I don't think you're going to be able to sell the idea of taxing people for stuff that happened 200 years ago.
 
ballantine said:
So?

Everyone in their brother had a hard time back then.

How about the Quakers, they were running from King George. Do you want to give them reparations too?

Tell ya what - some of my ancestors died fighting the Nazis and Communists in World War II - how about I get some reparations too?

I don't think you're going to be able to sell the idea of taxing people for stuff that happened 200 years ago.
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Pretty snarky for someone so clueless.
 
Moot said:
Pretty snarky for someone so clueless.
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Maybe you're the one who's clueless.

Crack a history book lately?

These dumb ass liberals think they're the only ones who had a hard time, well they're wrong.

Everyone's on to their professional victim game by now. No one's going to pay any taxes for that stuff. My elected representative would be impeached on the spot if he tried anything that idiotic.
 
ecofarm said:
So 13% of the population just continues to suffer injustice? Bad plan.
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WHAT injustice? What a load of horse pucky!

This country bends over backwards to elevate minorities and immigrants.

It is institutionalized into the law, it's a matter of record.

Now, if you're going to claim that is "injustice", then let's take it back the other way. Maybe you'd like to experience what REAL injustice feels like.
 
PirateMk1 said:
If you feel so guilty, then you open your pocket book.
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Blacks never got reparations. Its not about individual guilt. I got mine ***** you isnt the answer.
 
I agree that Caucasian people have NO need to feel any guilt for what happened in the 19th century.

Since the 1960s, Caucasian Americans have been the most generous people in the history of the world in levelling the playing field for all Americans.

The election of 2008, of course, was a watershed in the history of the United States.

And sometime this century, non-Caucasians will constitute the overwhelming majority of the people in this country.

IMHO, Caucasians deserve a well-deserved shoutout.
 
Moot said:
The injustices that blacks endured for the 100 or so years that followed the civil war entitles them to reparations of some sort. The government systemically discriminated against blacks which prevented them from getting loans to start businesses and buy homes and build wealth.
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The bulk of the atrocities against the blacks, was done by the Democrats. During the Civil War the Democrats wanted to divide the country so they could have slaves, after the Emancipation Proclamation. The Democrats need to pay the reparations.

Lincoln was a Republican. Republicans helped the blacks since before the Civil War, all the way to the present. Martin Luther King was a Republican, who fought against the southern Democrats. The Democrats perpetuated the atrocities against the blacks, even after Emancipation. The KKK was the strong arm of the Democrat party, sort of like the ATIFA of today, but worse. I would suggest an extra tax on all Democrats, to pay for the reparations.

As far as the US government playing a role, the government is composed of Republicans and Democrats, with the Democrats the legal scammers of the two, just like today. The collusion delusion was from the Democrats legal scam playbook of old. This was originally used against the blacks who complained about injustice. Then became the target of bullies using legal scams and intimidations. It is the Democrats who believe in heavy handed big Government. Republican believe in small government. If small government had been implemented, this would have made it impossible to enforce the racist laws of the Democrats.

Are you aware that the Democrats taught the Nazis the legal basis for how to make a group of people second class citizens in their own country? Before WWII, top level Nazis came to America to learn how the Democrats used legal scams against the blacks. They wanted to learn from the master so the Germans could do this against the Jews. Republican need to be for the Democrats paying reparations for all their decades of evil games.

Pardon Our Interruption
 
bomberfox said:
Blacks never got reparations. Its not about individual guilt. I got mine ***** you isnt the answer.
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Actually it is the answer, a very good answer to a bull**** proposition. A better answer is **** off loser. All the slaves and slave owners are dead. My family dont owe jack **** especially after some back then sacrificed themselves freeing slaves, and fighting for the Union. We never owned one slave black or white. So why the **** do we have to pay jack ****? Bottom line, piss off with reparations bull****, we aint buying.
 
joko104 said:
This is what reparations are about:

"These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again."
Democratic President LBJ
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Thats bang dead on what's going on.
 
ballantine said:
WHAT injustice? What a load of horse pucky!

This country bends over backwards to elevate minorities and immigrants.

It is institutionalized into the law, it's a matter of record.

Now, if you're going to claim that is "injustice", then let's take it back the other way. Maybe you'd like to experience what REAL injustice feels like.
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13% of the population has only 3% of the power.

Explain that.
 
ecofarm said:
So 13% of the population just continues to suffer injustice? Bad plan.
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My god the unjust constant suffering of Oprah, Whoopie and the Obamas must be unbearable!

The racism of so many Democrats is astonishing - as is the ignornance. Are all blacks in the USA the prodigy of slaves? NO. Are all blacks in the USA offspring from the age of discrimination in the USA? NO.

Of course, your view is the old slavery 1-drop rule, isn't it? Anyone with even 1 drop of black ancestry blood therefore if forever banned from being a white person as are their children now until the end of time - meaning they also would forever be slaves. To you, anyone regardless of ancestry and history in the USA can never, ever, ever be a pure white person like you, can they?

Thus, in your opinion, they are inherently inferior and handicapped compared to a pure white person like you, for which they need a little more charity from you superior white people. That is your claim, isn't it? Money to offset their inferiority to you as a pure white man.

So, in the great national DNA testing to determine who doesn't mean your pure-whiteness standards, to make certain we can identify for the Democratic Party all the people who fail to met their - and your - pure whiteness test - will the government pay for the nationwide testing? Do you want people who refuse jailed?
The person's race tattooed on his/her forehead to make certain all you Democrats can know who isn't pure white?
 
bomberfox said:
Blacks never got reparations. Its not about individual guilt. I got mine ***** you isnt the answer.
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Blacks in the South did, they got land and political positions. Not in the North. Affirmative action also is reparations as is every project favoring minority companies. So was forced busing. So were projects to improve black communities. Much of the welfare system was created as reparations to minorities, though white people also increasingly use the welfare system.
 
ecofarm said:
13% of the population has only 3% of the power.

Explain that.
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LBJ deliberately created a generational welfare class specifically targeting blacks in doing so. Democratic President Johnson to be specific.
 
ecofarm said:
A white person claiming black people wanna remain victims.
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Now the majority of Americans seem desperate to claim any victimhood status. Race. Age. Gender. Sex. Religion. Economic. Unfairness. Physical disabilities. Mental disabilities. Physical appearance. Expecting and even demanding rewards for self pity parties is a national fad.

Why just blacks? Nearly everyone in the USA has ancestors who were victims of the super rich industrialists. Tens of millions whose ancestors were killed in unjust wars, causing great poverty and lost of land that affected them economically adversely in the following generations. The horrific discrimination against Native Americans. Discrimination against Chinese, Irish, Eastern Europeans, Hispanics, and certainly women. 95% of Americans have ancestors who economically - and institutionally - suffered and in ways that adversely affected their prodigy.

Of course, to the Democratic Party, which always opposed inter-racial marriages, everyone is either white, brown, red, yellow or black. Out of hatred of inter-racial marriages they pretend there are no mixed race people and no mixed race children to most Democrats, when it is likely the majority of black people in the USA are not 100% of black ancestry.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Actually it is the answer, a very good answer to a bull**** proposition. A better answer is **** off loser. All the slaves and slave owners are dead. My family dont owe jack **** especially after some back then sacrificed themselves freeing slaves, and fighting for the Union. We never owned one slave black or white. So why the **** do we have to pay jack ****? Bottom line, piss off with reparations bull****, we aint buying.
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Blacks were never given reparations from the federal government that not only setup the institutions that fostered slavery but also prevented slaves from escaping. Its not just about you and someday you might grow up and learn that.
 
joko104 said:
Blacks in the South did, they got land and political positions. Not in the North. Affirmative action also is reparations as is every project favoring minority companies. So was forced busing. So were projects to improve black communities. Much of the welfare system was created as reparations to minorities, though white people also increasingly use the welfare system.
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Evidence for this the south giving blacks land as reparations?
 
bomberfox said:
Blacks were never given reparations from the federal government that not only setup the institutions that fostered slavery but also prevented slaves from escaping. Its not just about you and someday you might grow up and learn that.
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Do yourself a favor sell the pious horse**** to someone else, because I aint buying it. Maybe you should grow and learn the world is not fair. Never has been, never will be.
 
wellwisher said:
The bulk of the atrocities against the blacks, was done by the Democrats. During the Civil War the Democrats wanted to divide the country so they could have slaves, after the Emancipation Proclamation. The Democrats need to pay the reparations.

Lincoln was a Republican. Republicans helped the blacks since before the Civil War, all the way to the present. Martin Luther King was a Republican, who fought against the southern Democrats. The Democrats perpetuated the atrocities against the blacks, even after Emancipation. The KKK was the strong arm of the Democrat party, sort of like the ATIFA of today, but worse. I would suggest an extra tax on all Democrats, to pay for the reparations.

As far as the US government playing a role, the government is composed of Republicans and Democrats, with the Democrats the legal scammers of the two, just like today. The collusion delusion was from the Democrats legal scam playbook of old. This was originally used against the blacks who complained about injustice. Then became the target of bullies using legal scams and intimidations. It is the Democrats who believe in heavy handed big Government. Republican believe in small government. If small government had been implemented, this would have made it impossible to enforce the racist laws of the Democrats.

Are you aware that the Democrats taught the Nazis the legal basis for how to make a group of people second class citizens in their own country? Before WWII, top level Nazis came to America to learn how the Democrats used legal scams against the blacks. They wanted to learn from the master so the Germans could do this against the Jews. Republican need to be for the Democrats paying reparations for all their decades of evil games.

Pardon Our Interruption
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You seem ignorant of the fact that the Democrat party of the Civil War and Jim Crowe era switched party platforms after Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and are now today's Republicans.
 
Moot said:
You seem ignorant of the fact that the Democrat party of the Civil War and Jim Crowe era switched party platforms after Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and are now today's Republicans.
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OMG! Pure liberal insanity! Democrats were responsible for slavery, Civil War, Jim Crow, and ever worse, crippling welfare entitlement programs that did more harm than slavery and Jim Crow combined. Now is it clear to you?
 
James972 said:
OMG! Pure liberal insanity! Democrats were responsible for slavery, Civil War, Jim Crow, and ever worse, crippling welfare entitlement programs that did more harm than slavery and Jim Crow combined. Now is it clear to you?
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Well, well, well, if it isn't Mr. Revisionist himself. :lol:
 
bomberfox said:
Blacks were never given reparations from the federal government that not only setup the institutions that fostered slavery but also prevented slaves from escaping. Its not just about you and someday you might grow up and learn that.
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1) modern whites are not responsible for what the federal govt did long ago
2) they is nothing in the Constitution about paying reparations to all the wronged people in human history
3) to the extend that blacks were damaged by slavery they qualified proportionately for 100's of programs aimed in a non racist way at all people who were damaged by all sorts things in their histories
4) reparation welfare, like regular welfare, would do as much damage as slavery and Jim crow themselves so are to be condemned in the first place
 
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