You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.[W:113]

[Fishking]

Apparently, if you're a dude that likes vagina, and you won't consider having sex with a girl with a penis, or a girl who likes penis and not men with vaginas (or the various gay matchups) you're transphobic.

Hey...I'll call them their preferred gender and chosen name but this doesn't make sense. So what are the thoughts on this? Also, are you gay if you are say, a dude that has sex with a transman that has a vagina or if you have sex with a girl with a penis?

 

[evaporate]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Apparently, if you're a dude that likes vagina, and you won't consider having sex with a girl with a penis, or a girl who likes penis and not men with vaginas (or the various gay matchups) you're transphobic.

Hey...I'll call them their preferred gender and chosen name but this doesn't make sense. So what are the thoughts on this? Also, are you gay if you are say, a dude that has sex with a transman that has a vagina or if you have sex with a girl with a penis?

My position is that trannies ought not go anywhere near 'cis' people, when it comes to sex/romance. It's not their world.

Any who think they can hunt amongst the cis are delusional, and in for profound and perpetual disappointment, if not violence. It's entirely an extension of their flaming narcissism that leads them to think cis people will view them as the gender they imagine they are.

And yes, if you are attracted to a trannie, you are whatever sexuality applies to those attracted to the biological gender in question. Any male dating the pictured tranny, for example, is gay. A FTM (female to male) tranny who dates men is straight. And so on. Where you have FTM and MTF together, they're gay and lesbian - in reverse, so to speak. They will claim they're a straight couple, of course. All part of the fantasy.

 

[Henrin]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

I'm way past the point of sick of the phobia and ism accusations. MTF's are male and FTM are female. Stating and refusing to budge on facts doesn't make someone a suffer of a phobia, but it does mean they know science enough to not believe in stupid false things. Refusing to humor a realtionship with a dude rather they had surgery or not doesn't make you a sufferer of a phobia either, but someone that recognizes and respects facts. How about transgenders stop pushing stupid crap and stop trying to get straight people to have relationships with them with dumb reasoning like the dude in the video.

 

[Henrin]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

And yes, if you are attracted to a trannie, you are whatever sexuality applies to those attracted to the biological gender in question. Any male dating the pictured tranny, for example, is gay. A FTM (female to male) tranny who dates men is straight. And so on. Where you have FTM and MTF together, they're gay and lesbian - in reverse, so to speak. They will claim they're a straight couple, of course. All part of the fantasy.

That dude in the video is an example of MTF that doesn't pass, but not all MTF fail to pass. If you find yourself attracted to someone that passes quite well there is nothing to be ashamed of. However, going forward with a realtionship when you know the facts is more than little ****ed up for someone that claims to be straight.

 

[evaporate]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

How about transgenders stop pushing stupid crap and stop trying to get straight people to have relationships with them with dumb reasoning like the dude in the video.

This. They have no business trawling the cis world ... straight or gay. They should exclusively look for partners within their own strange little world. Don't like that? Don't transition.

The psych problems ensue when this stuff isn't taken into consideration prior to transitioning. I'll wager VERY few stop to think just how limited their options (for partners) will be. Then when reality hits, they end up depressed.

 

[evaporate]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

That dude in the video is an example of MTF that doesn't pass, but not all MTF fail to pass. If you find yourself attracted to someone that passes quite well there is nothing to be ashamed of. However, going forward with a realtionship when you know the facts is more than little ****ed up for someone that claims to be straight.

Oh sure, the eye can occasionally be fooled. But the second that the truth is understood, all ardor is ice-bucketed. Instant repulsion. That's what sexuality is (straight or gay) ... the unwanted gender is repulsive in this context.

 

[TheGoverness]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Apparently, if you're a dude that likes vagina, and you won't consider having sex with a girl with a penis, or a girl who likes penis and not men with vaginas (or the various gay matchups) you're transphobic.

Hey...I'll call them their preferred gender and chosen name but this doesn't make sense. So what are the thoughts on this? Also, are you gay if you are say, a dude that has sex with a transman that has a vagina or if you have sex with a girl with a penis?

Riley makes some of the most mind-bogglingly stupid videos. His (and I'm not being transphobic, he says he identifies as a woman yet goes by him/he pronouns, which makes no goddamn sense) videos are really only useful to point and laugh at, since his arguments are totally ridiculous.

 

[Fishking]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Eh...I don't see a problem with transfolk working the dating scene but I'd say that it would almost be a necessity to be upfront about being trans, right out the gate. I'm saying this for both the person who is perhaps interested and also for the physical safety of the transperson. I can see that getting physically violent, real quick, if it goes to far without foreknowledge.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Apparently, if you're a dude that likes vagina, and you won't consider having sex with a girl with a penis, or a girl who likes penis and not men with vaginas (or the various gay matchups) you're transphobic.

Hey...I'll call them their preferred gender and chosen name but this doesn't make sense. So what are the thoughts on this? Also, are you gay if you are say, a dude that has sex with a transman that has a vagina or if you have sex with a girl with a penis?

Such continuous ridiculousness makes me think the end of society and civilization is nearer than we might like to think.

 

[soylentgreen]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

I'm way past the point of sick of the phobia and ism accusations. MTF's are male and FTM are female. Stating and refusing to budge on facts doesn't make someone a suffer of a phobia, but it does mean they know science enough to not believe in stupid false things. Refusing to humor a realtionship with a dude rather they had surgery or not doesn't make you a sufferer of a phobia either, but someone that recognizes and respects facts. How about transgenders stop pushing stupid crap and stop trying to get straight people to have relationships with them with dumb reasoning like the dude in the video.

Actually you have just advertised that yours is a phobia. By making your statement you show that you do not know just how science is explaining gender differences. You are doing nothing more than giving very bad reasons, hence a phobia.

 

[Henrin]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Actually you have just advertised that yours is a phobia. By making your statement you show that you do not know just how science is explaining gender differences. You are doing nothing more than giving very bad reasons, hence a phobia.

I was talking towards sex, not gender. :lol: That is not to say you're right on your silly attack though.

 

[soylentgreen]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

I was talking towards sex, not gender. :lol: That is not to say you're right on your silly attack though.

No you were talking rubbish. You demonstrated a dislike. You lacked any reasoning therefor you displayed that which you claim not to have, a phobia.

And you were obviously not talking about sex even trying to make stuff up is you displaying a lack of reason for your dislike. In other words a phobia.

 

[holbritter]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Apparently, if you're a dude that likes vagina, and you won't consider having sex with a girl with a penis, or a girl who likes penis and not men with vaginas (or the various gay matchups) you're transphobic.

Hey...I'll call them their preferred gender and chosen name but this doesn't make sense. So what are the thoughts on this? Also, are you gay if you are say, a dude that has sex with a transman that has a vagina or if you have sex with a girl with a penis?

:beam:

Seriously? Shoot me now.

 

[Henrin]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

No you were talking rubbish. You demonstrated a dislike. You lacked any reasoning therefor you displayed that which you claim not to have, a phobia.

And you were obviously not talking about sex even trying to make stuff up is you displaying a lack of reason for your dislike. In other words a phobia.

Do you even know what a phobia is? Oh and btw, gender is a social construct. Trying to say you win because of scientifically defined gender differences is idiotic and wrong.

 

[soylentgreen]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Do you even know what a phobia is? Oh and btw, gender is a social construct. Trying to say you win because of scientifically defined gender differences is idiotic and wrong.

It is you who have no clue what a phobia is. You just admitted that with your next statement. Once again you have shown a lack of reasoning. I claimed no win by stating science defined gender. I claimed you do not understand that science can and does explore and try to understand gender.

Nor is gender a social construct as science has shown. But it does get treated as such by those who cannot reason, like you, and display their phobia towards it.

 

[maquiscat]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Apparently, if you're a dude that likes vagina, and you won't consider having sex with a girl with a penis, or a girl who likes penis and not men with vaginas (or the various gay matchups) you're transphobic.

Hey...I'll call them their preferred gender and chosen name but this doesn't make sense. So what are the thoughts on this? Also, are you gay if you are say, a dude that has sex with a transman that has a vagina or if you have sex with a girl with a penis?

Lots of misconceptions here. Your attraction to one gender or another has nothing to do with either their genitals, or even their birth gender. It has to do with how you perceive their gender. If you look at a person, who identifies female, and was born biologically female, yet you perceived them as male (most likely thinking they are MtF or CD). The other part of it is that regardless of your overall attraction, you have preferences. Maybe you prefer bigger women. Or you prefer hairy men. And, keeping with the video, you might prefer men with penises. None of that is phobic or sexist. One only starts down those paths when it affects how they think about the individual as a whole, not in relation to how they see them as a potential bed or life partner.

 

[matchlight]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

I met her in a pub down in North Soho, where they drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry cola, See-oh-ell-ae cola . .

 

[calamity]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Apparently, if you're a dude that likes vagina, and you won't consider having sex with a girl with a penis, or a girl who likes penis and not men with vaginas (or the various gay matchups) you're transphobic.

Hey...I'll call them their preferred gender and chosen name but this doesn't make sense. So what are the thoughts on this? Also, are you gay if you are say, a dude that has sex with a transman that has a vagina or if you have sex with a girl with a penis?

Old news. This has been hashed over many, many times here. It's clearly over the top ridiculous to criticize a straight person for refusing to have sex with a trans of the same biological sex.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

There are idiots on youtube, period.

You want to see a bigger one?



Not much point in getting worked up over it, idiots, idiots everywhere.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

I'm way past the point of sick of the phobia and ism accusations. MTF's are male and FTM are female.

If you want to make clearly inaccurate assertions that you're making here, you're going to have to live with the accusation of being transphobic, because you very clearly are.

The assertion that trans people are attempting to, as you put it "deceive" people is all the evidence one needs to highlight the seething hatred you have for these people.

But hey, leave it to an alleged "libertarian" to get really upset about what others do... Pretty much constantly.

 

[Henrin]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

If you want to make clearly inaccurate assertions that you're making here, you're going to have to live with the accusation of being transphobic, because you very clearly are.

The assertion that trans people are attempting to, as you put it "deceive" people is all the evidence one needs to highlight the seething hatred you have for these people.

But hey, leave it to an alleged "libertarian" to get really upset about what others do... Pretty much constantly.

Lol. Yes, they are attempting to look like a sex they are not and desire for people to see them as that sex. They do this through hormone treatment and maybe even surgery in the hopes people won't be able to tell them apart from the real thing. They want to use the wrong bathroom and locker room and not be known as anything other than belong there, be in relationships with people that are straight, be addressed as someone would if they were a member of that sex/gender, compete with people in sports from the sex they are claiming to be part of, etc. So believe what you want there champ and I will stick to what they say and do to make my judgements.

Oh and btw, libertarianism is a political ideology that does not require me to accept falsehoods and or just ****ing crazy ****.

 

[PirateMk1]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Apparently, if you're a dude that likes vagina, and you won't consider having sex with a girl with a penis, or a girl who likes penis and not men with vaginas (or the various gay matchups) you're transphobic.

Hey...I'll call them their preferred gender and chosen name but this doesn't make sense. So what are the thoughts on this? Also, are you gay if you are say, a dude that has sex with a transman that has a vagina or if you have sex with a girl with a penis?

I learned a long time ago I am a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, trans hating bastard. Well that's what they say anyhow. I don't care, so if they added child eating, Nazi, pedophilic monster to that description, wouldn't bother me in the least. To be honest I would wish these labeling authorities would at least be more creative in their attempts to label us, so I could pretend to be interested in what the sniveling twats with the three day old fishy odor are attempting to bore me to death with. I mean come on put a little effort in their man hating labeling attempts. They seem to act like women who just lay there when having a sexual encounter. What fun is that? Now that I think about it, they probably are the kill joy women who just lay there. Makes sense to me.

 

[Fishking]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

There are idiots on youtube, period.

You want to see a bigger one?



Not much point in getting worked up over it, idiots, idiots everywhere.

Whoa...I think we are screwed as a society. This type of thing isn't too much on the fringe for the left anymore, and it's growing. I know a few smart and normally what I would call rational people, who are on the left, and they buy into this type of thing on a smaller scale.

 

[Fishking]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

If you want to make clearly inaccurate assertions that you're making here, you're going to have to live with the accusation of being transphobic, because you very clearly are.

The assertion that trans people are attempting to, as you put it "deceive" people is all the evidence one needs to highlight the seething hatred you have for these people.

But hey, leave it to an alleged "libertarian" to get really upset about what others do... Pretty much constantly.

Depends on how you look at it. Trans people, unless they are one of the very, very, few who have an actual chromosome type of problem, aren't the other sex. That's just a fact. They do, however, get surgery, dress, and claim to be the other sex.

 

[Mach]

Re: You're transphobic if you aren't bisexual.

Whoa...I think we are screwed as a society. This type of thing isn't too much on the fringe for the left anymore, and it's growing. I know a few smart and normally what I would call rational people, who are on the left, and they buy into this type of thing on a smaller scale.

As far as I know it's fringe feminism and LGBT stuff, and I usually only see it talked about in that crazy attempt at detail by youth. I think with the advent of youtube/internet, we routinely hear stuff from kids that make adults cringe...that's always been the case, they just have a bigger podium now.

The point they try to make is a fantasy about western imperialism and how its all bad, etc. But the reality is that we are just animals in nature with a lot of genetic and instinctual survival adaptations, and a long history of cultural adaptations and traditions that help us function as a society.

Associating gender with genitals...I'm thinking that's pretty normal in biology as a science, not just "western imperialistic culture".

It's like, who are they trying to sway with this stuff? Hardcore right wingers? Or moderates, who already try not to see or care about race, gender, etc., but certainly don't fixate on it? It pushes right wingers away, and moderates already don't oppose LGBT rights, so what are they doing? I think in that respect, it's an ideology like many others, that is attention seeking and has a certain appeal on the surface level with all its in-crowed language and teachings, very cult-like. No different than hardcore libertarian ideology in that respect