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Your President just said he's immune from all stages of a State criminal process...

I wonder if there are any republicans who know that Trump is an extremely dirty businessman and politician and a crook and are simply praying that he can string everything out long enough to serve for a term or two.

If there are then that's the lowest of the low. Like lower than people in Baltimore who support crooks.

There's some guy by the name of George Conway says he is 'horrified' over GOP's impeachment defense of Trump Another one is Justin Amash: The Last Republican in America
 
The stupidity of the Left wing never ceases to amaze me. You all go on-and-on about how The United States is a democracy, then claim that the Founders only wanted the political elite to select the president.

They literally just finished fighting a war against the political elite and you all think they wanted to re-event the wheel by creating the exact same system? :lamo

Your historical ignorance continues to shine bright.
 
Re: subpoena for his tax returns, Trump legal team files 179 page brief arguing that "he is absolutely immune from all stages of state criminal process while in office" https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6549876/Petition-for-Writ-Trump-v-Vance-1.pdf https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1195107497532706817/photo/1

Donald Trump said he would release his tax returns while RUNNING to be a POLITICIAN.

Now that he IS a POLITICAN he says he's better than all you guys while he IS a POLITICAN (can't even be investigated).

He said so in an 179 page argument.

Politician. Your daddy.

Barr has to be making these legal arguments for Trump. I don't think Trump could come up with this own his own.
 
He promised you suckers he would. That's the funny part.

Five bucks says Donald Trump thinks that 99 percent of Trump voters are just a bunch dumb asses from outside of Manhattan.

I don't give a ****, so obviously, he was promising you "suckers" that he would. :lamo

Well, we know that Trump haters are a buncha dumbasses. :lamo
 
He's the president and you're not. Neither are Nancy Pelosi or Adam Schiff suck it up pajama boy sick your IRS boys on Maxine Waters or Al Sharpton.

Not for long


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He has one, standing up to racists and White Supremacists. Hell of a good hobby imo.

Probably not something that's looked at as a good thing by some people.
 
We don't want our President rendered entirely ineffective by state charges and lawsuits. We need him to be able to do his job free of state legal obligations.
This is why our system removes the President first Then he can spend the rest of his days in state and federal court. But while his job is the Presidency, he has other things to do.
It doesn't matter whom the President is. This is the system we installed and for good reason.

The system is poor, and outdated. There was no testing of it before-hand, there hasn't been significant exercising of it, and in retrospect its weak and absurd.

- POTUS can't be effectively investigated by Congress, they have no teeth if the DOJ doesn't play ball. Even DOJ has extrem limits on investigating POTUS as we saw with SC. Congress has a tiny fraction of that authority.

- The jury of the Senate, is biased, witness-tampered, is tied to their career/legacy/employment/reputation in terms of how they vote, and is stacked in favor of one party or another. "justice" is a complete crap-shoot with such a design.

- POTUS also has unlimited pardon power, and is able to effectively let anyone take the fall, obstruct, etc., with only a "legacy" impact, no fear of punishment like in every other case.

The idea that removing a president is somehow a reasonable remedy to the inability to try them for crimes, is absurd, sorry. If you have BOTH houses vs the opposing party, you have a shot. Short of that, it's simply not an actual option unless it was something like they stripped off their clothes and went on a shooting spree.

Crimes don't even toll while in office. If the statute of limitations expired, nothing DOJ can do after the fact, regardless of impeachment.

So many holes, it's basically a fail-safe that only triggers in the most calamitous, or partisan, of circumstances.

Not saying they could have done better at the time, you get what you get. But look at our system of laws...that get tested all day every day. They have evolved millions of times, been shaped and corrected, tweaked and re-tweaked as we've found issues.
Impeachment is very rarely used, only for a handful of people in the nation, and elections are apparently seen as the catch-all to make up for that poor system anyway.
 
President Truman was the first to release his tax returns to the public. Why did he do it? Because he was poor and his taxes were simple. It forced his opponent to release his taxes, he was a rich man with complicated taxes. It was a 100% political move.

I don't have to show my taxes to anybody and I don't see why Trump should have to either.
He was adamant that he would release them if he were elected president. The guys a liar and now they’re being sought after in a criminal investigation and it’s going to go to the Supreme Court..
 
You think that the IRS can get the tax returns? Seriously? Yeah, I know Trump said he couldn't release them because he was under audit. Apparently there's a law that says anyone under audit is prohibited from allowing anyone else to see those tax returns. Nobody can find that law ... but anyway, the head of the IRS serves at the pleasure of the president, so those returns will never see the light of day.

Anyway, Trump doesn't have to obey the USSC for the same reason he doesn't have to obey congressional subpoenas. He is head of a independent branch of government, and as such he can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. The president cannot be investigated (seriously, that's the argument) and lacking an investigation, there is no cause to charge criminally no matter what the president does.

So the USSC and Congress can go F*** off. No one can tell DJT what to do. Deal with it.

Keep dreaming, we are going to put him in jail and there is nothing you can do about it.


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Re: subpoena for his tax returns, Trump legal team files 179 page brief arguing that "he is absolutely immune from all stages of state criminal process while in office" https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6549876/Petition-for-Writ-Trump-v-Vance-1.pdf https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1195107497532706817/photo/1

Donald Trump said he would release his tax returns while RUNNING to be a POLITICIAN.

Now that he IS a POLITICAN he says he's better than all you guys while he IS a POLITICAN (can't even be investigated).

He said so in an 179 page argument.

Politician. Your daddy.

They can say what they like but Trump's legal team doesnt write the law. They don't even interpret it. They just defend the most corrupt swindler who ever farted in the Oval Office and rehearse different ways to say "witch-hunt".
 
Yours is blinding!...lol

A brief history lesson for you and others.

During the constitutional convention, there were two major factions, the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists, but there were no political parties. One side called for true democratic elections, of course at that time the only people allowed to vote were white, male property owners. Obviously, not all property owners were wealthy, in fact, the majority were not, being mostly farmers and small shop owners.

The other side had different thoughts about who should be allowed to choose the president and vice-president. First, they thought the majority of 18th-century voters lacked the knowledge to be fully informed about the candidates, especially in rural outposts - slow communication of news and a lack of 'larnin'. Second, they feared a “democratic mob” steering the country astray. And Third, fear of a president appealing directly to the not so affluent and educated people who might then be given a dangerous level of power.

Out of those drawn-out debates came a compromise based on the idea of electoral intermediaries. These intermediaries wouldn’t be picked by Congress or elected by the people. Instead, the states would each appoint independent “electors” who would cast the actual ballots for the presidency. Those electors were then allowed to vote for the candidate they wished to vote for and were not required to vote as the popular vote indicated.
 
I don't give a ****, so obviously, he was promising you "suckers" that he would. :lamo

Well, we know that Trump haters are a buncha dumbasses. :lamo

We know you don't care. We also know you guys preached fiscal conservatism, not trusting politicans and small government.

You've been exposed.

I say Bravo.
 
Re: subpoena for his tax returns, Trump legal team files 179 page brief arguing that "he is absolutely immune from all stages of state criminal process while in office" https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6549876/Petition-for-Writ-Trump-v-Vance-1.pdf https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1195107497532706817/photo/1

Donald Trump said he would release his tax returns while RUNNING to be a POLITICIAN.

Now that he IS a POLITICAN he says he's better than all you guys while he IS a POLITICAN (can't even be investigated).

He said so in an 179 page argument.

Politician. Your daddy.

Lest we not forget

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I don't give a ****, so obviously, he was promising you "suckers" that he would. :lamo

Well, we know that Trump haters are a buncha dumbasses. :lamo

This is true reality

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So what people are arguing is something like this…

A guy gets elected president. A tip comes through that he owns a business in a small town where underage sex slaves from China perform sexual acts for the clientele and it's done in a really sneaky way that's hard to prove. He can not even be investigated until after he's out of office. The 14 year old girls have to wait 4 to 8 years.

Does that make sense to any sane people in our country? Or any decent person?

that would obviously be an impeachable offense... and with PROOF of it, the person would be removed and there would be hell to pay afterward.
 
racism, the final go to of the left's incessant whining.
 
Nobody is above the law.

Except, of course, for Donald Trump.

Let's not forget the Biden's. Hell even the president dare not even ask someone to look into possible corruption if he is involved.
 
Who mentioned "criminal" charges regarding these tax returns?

Why was that word included in this topic?
 
that would obviously be an impeachable offense... and with PROOF of it, the person would be removed and there would be hell to pay afterward.

NOT if the Prez could not even be investigated while in office. The sex slaves world have to wait 4 to 8 years.
 
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