Your own media on Coronavirus 19. Watch if you doubt me

[MSgt]

Dr Fauci and Dr Blix defended Trump telling that SOB Jim Acosta that the medical professionals had no clue the virus would hit America and so hard. Trump listened to them. You do not alarm the nation based on a hunch.

Take what serious? Even the Democrats own press did not take it serious?

Well, these are clearly lies. Is your integrity worth so little or have you really allowed radical right-wing propaganda such power over you? .....

Late February:

He criticized CNN and MSNBC for “panicking markets.” He said at a South Carolina rally — falsely — that “the Democrat policy of open borders” had brought the virus into the country. He lashed out at “Do Nothing Democrat comrades.” He tweeted about “Cryin’ Chuck Schumer,” mocking Schumer for arguing that Trump should be more aggressive in fighting the virus. The next week, Trump would blame an Obama administration regulation for slowing the production of test kits. There was no truth to the charge.

February 28:

"The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," Trump said. "One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new hoax."

March 5:

For days, Trump’s allies in right-wing media have defended the president and his response to coronavirus, supporting the administration’s narrative that Democrats are using the coronavirus to further their own political agenda by purposefully exaggerating the severity of coronavirus just to blame Trump for it.

March 13:

Democrats in Congress and heavily-affected states had been urging Mr Trump to issue the order, which will also allow more people to qualify for government health insurance.

Later on Friday, US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced she had reached a deal with the White House on a package to assist people affected by the outbreak.

It includes two weeks of paid sick leave and up to three months of paid family and medical leave, free virus testing for those without insurance and food aid.

March 17:

Trump downplayed the coronavirus threat in its early days. A new report says Jared Kushner had been telling him the media was exaggerating the crisis.

March 27:

Fox News has been one of the president’s best allies during the pandemic messaging war, with most of its hosts spending the pandemic downplaying its severity and echoing Trump’s positions. “We are scaring people unnecessarily,” host Sean Hannity said in one early March monologue. “I see it again as ‘let’s bludgeon Trump again with this new hoax.’”

And why do you trump acolytes appear absolutely clueles of this reality? Because of this garbage:

The cable-news network that for weeks seemed to refuse to take coronavirus outbreak fears seriously has pivoted to heaping praise upon the president for taking it seriously.

Now that President Donald Trump has been forced to soberly address the coronavirus outbreak, after weeks of calling fears about the virus a Democratic “hoax,” some of his biggest boosters on Fox News have also moved from that dismissive talking point to a new one: Do not criticize the president while he leads us through this crisis.

And because of this garbage:

Seven of Donald Trump's most misleading coronavirus claims

SO......how exactly can Trump spend months denigrating the media and the Democrats for exaggerating the virus just to hurt his reelection....but now you insist that the media and the Democrats didn't take it serious? Use your common sense. You only insult your own intelligence.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Well, that's why the Supreme Court properly called it "racially" gerrymandering.

Or is your obtuse position to pretend that only black people are uneducated? The country is full of white idiots too. Go to a Trump rally, walk past the neo-Nazis and White Supremacists, and ask the average conservative in attendance questions about Duck Dynasty or socialism. You'll get great answers about one of them.

Frankly such racial issues are or were at one time, very localized. And the Democrats set up the rules.

As to questions put to the Trump group, look what the Obama group gave as answers!!

Good going youtube. A well known video is hidden or removed.

Folks, voters for Obama told the interviewer things like he would pay her utility bills for her, buy gas for her car and phones to use. And this was multiplied by dozens of his supporters who said they planned for Obama to buy them things. Sure, purchase their votes.


now let's watch Obama to examine why I call him slow witted. This very simple question by Katie Couric took him like forever to formulate his final answer. The man called smart in real life was dim witted.

 

[MSgt]

In the middle, Otero chose sites like Vox and NOR as legitimate sources of news.

She also chose “Slate” as being a site that “skews liberal” but was still a “great, in-depth source of news” because they were so “complex.”

'Nuff said.

Not nearly enough. And I will prove this to be a right-wing lie as well, simply by using the unbiased charts.

- Vox may provide a complexity of pieces, but as clearly presented in the latest chart, it sits to the left of CNN.com in terms of politics. Hardly the center.

- As for Slate, it sits waaaaay off to the left where it is categorized right in the middle of "some reliability issues and/or extremism." Very, very hardly the center.

But your radical right-wing Federalist defense would have you believe that the chart placed these in the center? They clearly lied to you in order to protect radical right-wing sources from the truth. And what did you do? You proved always gullible and highly susceptible to soak up anything the radical right-wing gives you simply because it meets with a world-view that makes you comfortable about yourself and your irrationality. This is the conservative mind of 2020.



Here's the chart from a few years ago. Look for Vox, Slate, FOX, the Federalist, CNN, what have you. Then review back to the current chart to see how they have shifted during Trump's White House:



I noticed that you didn't even bother with the studies that showed you, a FOX News viewer, as highly manipulated. Perhaps you can scour more radical right-wing material to defend itself.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Well, these are clearly lies. Is your integrity worth so little or have you really allowed radical right-wing propaganda such power over you? .....

Late February:


February 28:


March 5:


March 13:


March 17:


March 27:


And why do you trump acolytes appear absolutely clueles of this reality? Because of this garbage:


And because of this garbage:




SO......how exactly can Trump spend months denigrating the media and the Democrats for exaggerating the virus just to hurt his reelection....but now you insist that the media and the Democrats didn't take it serious? Use your common sense. You only insult your own intelligence.

What the hell sort of poster talks to others the way you talk down to us?

I said both Blix and Fauci defended Trump and you flew into a rage like few others here do.

I posted proof both praised Trump.

Do not expect that CNN gives Trump a fair shake.

And more proof:

[video]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/31/cnns_acosta_vs_trump_fauci_on_starting_social_dist ancing_sooner_jim_we_acted_very_very_early.html[/video]

 

[MSgt]

Frankly such racial issues are or were at one time, very localized. And the Democrats set up the rules.

I'm a historian. You have to do better than some illusive declaration.

Do you mean the Democrats, as in Jim Crow, when the Democratic Party represented conservatives?

 

[Robertinfremont]

Not nearly enough. And I will prove this to be a right-wing lie as well, simply by using the unbiased charts.

- Vox may provide a complexity of pieces, but as clearly presented in the latest chart, it sits to the left of CNN.com in terms of politics. Hardly the center.

- As for Slate, it sits waaaaay off to the left where it is categorized right in the middle of "some reliability issues and/or extremism." Very, very hardly the center.

But your radical right-wing Federalist defense would have you believe that the chart placed these in the center? They clearly lied to you in order to protect radical right-wing sources from the truth. And what did you do? You proved always gullible and highly susceptible to soak up anything the radical right-wing gives you simply because it meets with a world-view that makes you comfortable about yourself and your irrationality. This is the conservative mind of 2020.

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Here's the chart from a few years ago. Look for Vox, Slate, FOX, the Federalist, CNN, what have you. Then review back to the current chart to see how they have shifted during Trump's White House:

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I noticed that you didn't even bother with the studies that showed you, a FOX News viewer, as highly manipulated. Perhaps you can scour more radical right-wing material to defend itself.

What program on FOX are you so upset about?

 

[Robertinfremont]

I'm a historian. You have to do better than some illusive declaration.

Do you mean the Democrats, as in Jim Crow, when the Democratic Party represented conservatives?

Calling the Democrats conservatives is your attempt to smear those Democrats. And well they deserved smearing. Because there is not one dime of difference in today's Democrats and those who created the Klan and Jim Crow laws.

 

[MSgt]

What the hell sort of poster talks to others the way you talk down to us?

I said both Blix and Fauci defended Trump and you flew into a rage like few others here do.

That's because few others can put any substance behind what is actually just an irrational rage. And you people have an intense personal need to pretend that history began the moment Trump declared an emergency. Funny how you people promote His greatness when he was complacent to listen to health officials, and now promote His greatness when he listens to health officials. Do you stand for anything sort of standard at all?

- Fauci and Blix clearly lied when they defended Trump, who was finally actually caring to listen to health officials. Medical professionals having no clue the virus would hit America and so hard is a clear lie since health officials had been trying to sound the alarm, even as it was spreading in America. The very idea that health professionals who understand how viruses spread would "have no clue" is preposterous. As I clearly showed you with link after link, this is a lie. And why would they lie? Because they know who they are having to deal with and soothing his ego works to their advantage.

- You said, "Even the Democrats own press did not take it serious?" Clearly the "Democrat's press" took it serious enough since it was they who Trump denigrated for trying to "exaggerate the virus."

 

[Robertinfremont]

That's because few others can put any substance behind what is actually just an irrational rage. And you people have an intense personal need to pretend that history began the moment Trump declared an emergency. Funny how you people promote His greatness when he was complacent to listen to health officials, and now promote His greatness when he listens to health officials. Do you stand for anything sort of standard at all?

- Fauci and Blix clearly lied when they defended Trump, who was finally actually caring to listen to health officials. Medical professionals having no clue the virus would hit America and so hard is a clear lie since health officials had been trying to sound the alarm, even as it was spreading in America. The very idea that health professionals who understand how viruses spread would "have no clue" is preposterous. As I clearly showed you with link after link, this is a lie. And why would they lie? Because they know who they are having to deal with and soothing his ego works to their advantage.

- You said, "Even the Democrats own press did not take it serious?" Clearly the "Democrat's press" took it serious enough since it was they who Trump denigrated for trying to "exaggerate the virus."

I authored the OP with proof the Democrats own press took this as a joke.

They were still more interested in the impeaching nasty habit by the Democrats.

So you have nothing at all to refute me. That is why you attacked me.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Twitter is not the news, just so ya know. I watch a lot of news stations, Lib and Con leaning, rarely do I ever see anyone trying to blame trump for this pandemic or his handling of this issue. Early on I agree he did not act quickly enough or take it seriously enough but since then he seems to doing as good as any other politician out there. Reserve your judgment until this has run its course and we see where we are then, and then in November voice your opinion.

At first nobody, not even the Democrats took it serious. Guess why? We had a case. We do not take many diseases serious when there is one case.

 

[MSgt]

Calling the Democrats conservatives is your attempt to smear those Democrats. And well they deserved smearing. Because there is not one dime of difference in today's Democrats and those who created the Klan and Jim Crow laws.

Jesus. It's like even High School history was too painful:

- The Democratic Party (Adams) came to represent the South's interests after the Revolutionary War, throughout the Antebellum Period, and during the post Civil War period when the Klan was created and then Jim Crow. They clung to States rights over the federal, conservatism, and tradition. These were the slave owning conservatives.

- The Republican Party (Jefferson) came to represent the North's interests after the Revolutionary War, throughout the Antebellum period, and during the post Civil War period. They clung to national interests, liberalism, internationalism, and progressiveness. These were the abolitionist liberals.

The great shift between conservatives and liberals occurred in the late nineteenth century, when both parties went through a political upheaval, thanks to Grover Cleveland's idiocy. The Parties became big tents where conservatives and liberals could be found in either party. This lasted until the Civil Right's Marches when race became a political issue again. Liberals leaned more towards the DNC, and conservatives leaned more towards the GOP.

No matter who represented them, conservatives have been the constant in the South. If this is too hard for you to understand, find a ninth grader and ask him for his text book.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Jesus. It's like even High School history was too painful:

- The Democratic Party (Adams) came to represent the South's interests after the Revolutionary War, throughout the Antebellum Period, and during the post Civil War period when the Klan was created and then Jim Crow. They clung to States rights over the federal, conservatism, and tradition. These were the slave owning conservatives.

- The Republican Party (Jefferson) came to represent the North's interests after the Revolutionary War, throughout the Antebellum period, and during the post Civil War period. They clung to national interests, liberalism, internationalism, and progressiveness. These were the abolitionist liberals.

The great shift between conservatives and liberals occurred in the late nineteenth century, when both parties went through a political upheaval, thanks to Grover Cleveland's idiocy. The Parties became big tents where conservatives and liberals could be found in either party. This lasted until the Civil Right's Marches when race became a political issue again. Liberals leaned more towards the DNC, and conservatives leaned more towards the GOP.

No matter who represented them, conservatives have been the constant in the South. If this is too hard for you to understand, find a ninth grader and ask him for his text book.

Conservative means squat with no definition. Calling them Democrats is no definition.

As to history, you can't top my knowledge. No fecking way. What you said is ancient history and some of it true.

I myself call out Abe Lincoln for his running all over the USA imposing his personal martial law. And why the hell he could not make a deal with the South baffles the hell 0ut of me. And if he said to save the union, that my friend is conservative. He fought so called Liberals called Democrats.

 

[AlphaOmega]

 

[MSgt]

I authored the OP with proof the Democrats own press took this as a joke.

They were still more interested in the impeaching nasty habit by the Democrats.

So you have nothing at all to refute me. That is why you attacked me.

Your Twitter clip piece was not proof of anything other than your desperation to vindicate Trump. The record is clear and you have been blasted with actual proof that the contrary is the truth. My post alone did the job. This truth is plain as day and occurred quite openly for all to see. You people actually cheered his complacency on as he denigrated the media and the Democrats for their "exaggerations." Already your kind are seeking to re-create a narrative that shines on Trump's ass and excuses you. FOX News personalities did the 180 with Trump over night and have been pushing a false narrative ever since. It's like you simply woke up on March 13 without any sense of whatever happened before.

And the impeachment involved Trump's clear treason, in which your kind ignored. Yes, they were "too busy" actually giving a **** about our country. Pity your kind chose to **** all over it for a draft-dodger who is going down as arguably the worst President in American history. But FOX News tells you that he's the greatest, huh?

 

[Robertinfremont]

Though i was then a Democrat when it happened, what the Democrats never can explain is why they fought so hard to prevent Civil Rights laws while the Republicans fought them tooth and nail to obtain the civil rights laws.

Claiming those were conservatives only is a mask for the outright ignorance from the Democrat side of the ledger.

FACTUALLY it was Republicans fighting for civil rights laws. And we were opposed by Democrats.

You know how I learned this?

Not from Democrats, but from the actual congressional record. Thank god all this is records in DC.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Your Twitter clip piece was not proof of anything other than your desperation to vindicate Trump. The record is clear and you have been blasted with actual proof that the contrary is the truth. My post alone did the job. This truth is plain as day and occurred quite openly for all to see. You people actually cheered his complacency on as he denigrated the media and the Democrats for their "exaggerations." Already your kind are seeking to re-create a narrative that shines on Trump's ass and excuses you. FOX News personalities did the 180 with Trump over night and have been pushing a false narrative ever since. It's like you simply woke up on March 13 without any sense of whatever happened before.

And the impeachment involved Trump's clear treason, in which your kind ignored. Yes, they were "too busy" actually giving a **** about our country. Pity your kind chose to **** all over it for a draft-dodger who is going down as arguably the worst President in American history. But FOX News tells you that he's the greatest, huh?

Bull crap. I posted actual videos where the media operated as if the Virus did not exist.

Trump carried out his presidential duties vs Ukraine. He never so much as collected a clam for his efforts to aid Ukraine fight Russia.

This shyt he got tit for tat is a lie.

 

[MSgt]

Conservative means squat with no definition. Calling them Democrats is no definition.

As to history, you can't top my knowledge. No fecking way. What you said is ancient history and some of it true.

I myself call out Abe Lincoln for his running all over the USA imposing his personal martial law. And why the hell he could not make a deal with the South baffles the hell 0ut of me. And if he said to save the union, that my friend is conservative. He fought so called Liberals called Democrats.

Is you B even a english talker? Hey mods. Found a Russian bot.

 

[Robertinfremont]

I get news from a wide variety of sources rather than from MSNBC. That program is a joke. As is the stupid jerks on ABC, CBS and NBC and look up Chuck Todd for sheer stupid reporting.

I even have received German news, and at times check other news sources. I do not rely only on the Democrats favorite haunts.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Is you B even a english talker? Hey mods. Found a Russian bot.

You can be a Russian spy and I would not be surprised. Are you speaking Russian daily?

Folks, when reports come out how the Russians operate, check out the guy fighting with me. He clearly supports Russian causes.

 

[MSgt]

Bull crap. I posted actual videos where the media operated as if the Virus did not exist.

You posted videos where all the media operated as if the virus did not exist? Seems a very stupid thing too say.

Trump carried out his presidential duties vs Ukraine. He never so much as collected a clam for his efforts to aid Ukraine fight Russia.

There is nothing presidential about avoiding the State Department in order to use a private lawyer to coerce a foreign government to interfere in American democracy in order to win an election. It was ****ing treason.

This shyt he got tit for tat is a lie.

He "got" nothing because he "got" caught. See how that works? And after he "got" caught, Republicans and conservatives excused him, making them just as treacherous.

 

[ecofarm]

Conservative means squat with no definition. Calling them Democrats is no definition.

As to history, you can't top my knowledge. No fecking way. What you said is ancient history and some of it true.

I myself call out Abe Lincoln for his running all over the USA imposing his personal martial law. And why the hell he could not make a deal with the South baffles the hell 0ut of me. And if he said to save the union, that my friend is conservative. He fought so called Liberals called Democrats.

That you believe Lincoln was a bad President tells us all we need to know about your nazi version of history. Buying bs from racist scumbag websites does not constitute "history knowledge".

And, sure, the slavers were liberals. How moronic.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Your Twitter clip piece was not proof of anything other than your desperation to vindicate Trump. The record is clear and you have been blasted with actual proof that the contrary is the truth. My post alone did the job. This truth is plain as day and occurred quite openly for all to see. You people actually cheered his complacency on as he denigrated the media and the Democrats for their "exaggerations." Already your kind are seeking to re-create a narrative that shines on Trump's ass and excuses you. FOX News personalities did the 180 with Trump over night and have been pushing a false narrative ever since. It's like you simply woke up on March 13 without any sense of whatever happened before.

And the impeachment involved Trump's clear treason, in which your kind ignored. Yes, they were "too busy" actually giving a **** about our country. Pity your kind chose to **** all over it for a draft-dodger who is going down as arguably the worst President in American history. But FOX News tells you that he's the greatest, huh?

Frankly what a Russian trying to get our election changed would talk like. Stop it. I suspect the Feds are watching you.

 

[Robertinfremont]

That you believe Lincoln was a bad President tells us all we need to know about your nazi version of history. Buying bs from racist scumbag websites does not constitute "history knowledge".

I am very honest about Abe Lincoln. I wager in the future you too will be honest about that president.

 

[MSgt]

You can be a Russian spy and I would not be surprised. Are you speaking Russian daily?

Folks, when reports come out how the Russians operate, check out the guy fighting with me. He clearly supports Russian causes.

Say's the guy who just defended slavery and writes as if he is learning the language as he goes along.

 

[ecofarm]

I am very honest about Abe Lincoln. I wager in the future you too will be honest about that president.

I don't plan on becoming a kkk member, so I doubt it.