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Youngest Migrants Held in 'Tender Age' Shelters

trouble13 said:
Yup you just made my point by showing how trump would be portrayed by the left if he did as they are demanding and used his pen.

Thank you

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You advocated martial law. Yes, I will object to ending the constitution as we know it. What a terrible, terrible liberal I am, wanting America to still have freedom and due process and all that stuff you hate.
 
ludin said:
they will be separated 20 days later by a bill signed by bill clinton.
so are you going to start your outrage at bill clinton? 20 days from now?
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Yup. I’ve made that very clear. I don’t care who signed it or what the bill/policy is. It’s immoral and wrong to split apart families.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
. You can stop with the intellectual dishonesty, he is ending the policy.
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yes please stop your intellectual dishonesty but i know you won't.

the kids will be separated in 20 days per a law from 1997. so will i see your outrage against clinton for that?
 
Deuce said:
You advocated martial law. Yes, I will object to ending the constitution as we know it. What a terrible, terrible liberal I am, wanting America to still have freedom and due process and all that stuff you hate.
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But you want to supercede the law by executive order, yes?

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Gina said:
They were not being charged with a crime before Zero Tolerance. This changes the way in which the children are handled, being reclassified as unaccompanied minors with no protocols in place to reunite them. They also will spend time in jail before they have the chance to reclaim their children. This is new. Presuming that all parents are human traffickers, regardless of what can be observed, is not the way to solve the problem of immigrants not returning to court. It's inhumane. It's damaging children.
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No, it isn't new. If they come through the normal path for asylum seekers this doesn't happen. These people attempt to sneak across the border, which is illegal, and only claim asylum if ICE catches them. It is an attempt to game the system, and many in that boat are bad actors using children as human shields, as has already been shown numerous times.

If you wan the children of valid asylum seekers to be protected then support the enforcement of the law. If you want a free pass for child sex traffickers then keep on your current path.

Also, due to the Homeland Security Act of 2002 these children need to be treated as unaccompanied minors because their parents are being held in adult facilities and can't care for their children. Trump and the Republicans are working on a program that will create family holding facilities that will allow families to stay together during the adjudication process. I'm sure the Democrats will continue to have a problem with this because, in the end, what they really want is unfettered illegal immigration.
 
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PoliSciXtina said:
Yup. I’ve made that very clear. I don’t care who signed it or what the bill/policy is. It’s immoral and wrong to split apart families.
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we will see.
 
ludin said:
that is the liberal media spin.
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If we're talking illegals here instead of migrant seasonal workers with the proper paperwork, then the media is either telling a down right lie by changing the status of illegals to migrants which the media knows they are lying about the status. I suppose if this is the case, there is no either or.

One could come to the conclusion that if you want to keep families together, either enter the U.S. legally with the proper paperwork or don't enter at all. The power to keep families together if it is illegals lies with the illegals and their decisions, choices actions of either breaking U.S. law or not.
 
jmotivator said:
No, it isn't new. If they come through the normal path for asylum seekers this doesn't happen. These people attempt to sneak across the border, which is illegal, and only claim asylum if ICE catches them. It is an attempt to game the system, and many in that boat are bad actors using children as human shields, as has already been shown numerous times.

If you wan the children of valid asylum seekers to be protected then support the enforcement of the law. If you want a free pass for child sex traffickers then keep on your current path.
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This is accurate as well.
 
trouble13 said:
But you want to supercede the law by executive order, yes?

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Incorrect. Trump's authority to do what I suggest already exists in law. I hope that clears up the issue for you and you realize he should do this.
 
ludin said:
yes please stop your intellectual dishonesty but i know you won't.

the kids will be separated in 20 days per a law from 1997. so will i see your outrage against clinton for that?
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And you thought I was kidding right? LOL!
 
Deuce said:
Incorrect. Trump's authority to do what I suggest already exists in law. I hope that clears up the issue for you and you realize he should do this.
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Cite the law please

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trouble13 said:
Cite the law please

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The president's authority over criminal investigations. He can direct the DOJ to cease criminal investigations against asylum seekers and their children. The families can be released with an order to return for court dates to evaluate their asylum cases.
 
Ikari said:
Well I mean, it's called Tender Age facilities, so we know it will be OK.
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Of course. Babies being separated from their parents is a very tender way to treat them.
 
Gina said:
Of course. Babies being separated from their parents is a very tender way to treat them.
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It's for their own good really.
 
Renae said:
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Stop the fake outrage and give a ****. All those images were from before 2016. Ya'll didn't give a rats ass then, now? Because the media told you this is the time you care, you do.

I hate fake outrage.
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And they are from the period when unaccompanied minors appeared at the border in tremendous numbers. The Obama administration took enormous heat and then steps to end that kind of dentention. Obama did not create the problem, as Sessions and Trump have in order to get his wall.

The children being separated from their parents since Zero Tolerance became policy are not unaccompanied, but become classified as that after their parents are charged with a crime. There are no protocols or procedures to reunite them with their parents at this time.
 
PoliSciXtina said:
Seems like trump is listening to the outraged and changing his tune. I will applaud him if he changes his mind and ends family separations.


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The kids are going to be sent to jail with their parents and you all will be screaming about that, too.
 
Deuce said:
Incorrect. Trump's authority to do what I suggest already exists in law. I hope that clears up the issue for you and you realize he should do this.
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Donald Trump could resolve the DACA issue by executive order too- if he wanted to! Just sayin'!

That is what Obama was compelled to do- when Congress is too scared politically to do anything or starts dragging their feet!

That is why we have executive privileges!

It's time Donald Trump uses them in positive ways- instead of just ways to delegitimize the Obama presidency!
 
Gina said:
And they are from the period when unaccompanied minors appeared at the border in tremendous numbers. The Obama administration took enormous heat and then steps to end that kind of dentention. Obama did not create the problem, as Sessions and Trump have in order to get his wall.

The children being separated from their parents since Zero Tolerance became policy are not unaccompanied, but become classified as that after their parents are charged with a crime. There are no protocols or procedures to reunite them with their parents at this time.
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Yes, we know Obama's admin more often just let the families through and lost total track of them... how is that good for America?


Woah there, Trump didn't create the problem, people trying to enter the country illegally did, people coming here because they are told they can get free welfare, social security, housing, education paid for, jobs (at pay well uner what a US Citizen would get).
 
Gina said:
Of course. Babies being separated from their parents is a very tender way to treat them.
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It happens everyday in The United States; to American citizens.
 
apdst said:
The kids are going to be sent to jail with their parents and you all will be screaming about that, too.
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No, I will not. I’m glad the babies will now be with their parents. That’s all we are asking for. Not sure what will happen to all of the children who have already been separated from their parents though. May be too late for them. Heartbreaking.


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apdst said:
It happens everyday in The United States; to American citizens.
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Oh well then it's ok to do it intentionally as a zero tolerance policy with specific intent to be cruel as a deterrent.
 
Gina said:
They are all over the news, but here are some:

The CBP won't allow the press to take their own pictures, in which they have clearly viewed children locked up behind chain link walls.
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you realize that some of those photos are probably from 2014 right when you know the obama administration had kids locked up behind chain linked walls?
 
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