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Young transgender regret

dixon01767 said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!! Infinitely more authoritative then the silly ideas bouncing around in your head.
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Have you read the book? Where are the relevant quotes from the book?
 
dixon01767 said:
No the Drs determine sex when the child is born. We were talking about gender.
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True. Sex/gender is determined at birth. Only later transgender children's genders are revealed. Society doesn't determine that. Children do due to them being born as transgender.
 
AProudLefty said:
True. Sex/gender is determined at birth. .
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Well, the gender is assumed and correct in 90 something percent of the time. Gender is everything OTHER than biology. Long hair, pretty dresses, makeup, feminine demeanor, these all come later. No one is born with a desire for a pretty dress and makeup.
 
dixon01767 said:
Well, the gender is assumed and correct in 90 something percent of the time. Gender is everything OTHER than biology. Long hair, pretty dresses, makeup, feminine demeanor, these all come later. No one is born with a desire for a pretty dress and makeup.
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I think that is a false assertion, I believe "desire", ones sexual desire is inherent, not learned.
 
Rich2018 said:
You can say you are gay and not be gay

You cant identify as gay and not be gay.
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You got some kind of meter to detect this? If someone says hes gay, identifies as being gay, is there some method to determine that he is in fact a bisexual only identifying as gay?
 
dixon01767 said:
Well, the gender is assumed and correct in 90 something percent of the time. Gender is everything OTHER than biology. Long hair, pretty dresses, makeup, feminine demeanor, these all come later. No one is born with a desire for a pretty dress and makeup.
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Yeah that's true. Just like no one is born with a desire to worship specific god or join a religion. Regardless, a person is born with specific gender (as you said, 90% or more correct in matching their biological sexes). A transgender child is born with a gender that is more or less their biological sexes.
 
Lisa said:
I fail to see how this is a problem when it is the child who is making the decisions on how to dress. Nobody is pushing her to do anything and there is no medication involved. They are merely letting her express herself and being supportive. It would be extremely unethical, espcially to a child, to be encouraging her to do anything that she doesn't feel comfortable to do. She is a child and let her be a child, even if her dress and grooming are incongruent with her supposed biological gender. if she decides that she isn't trans then she learned and she is still who she is.

I feel the same way about adult trans people. Nobody should be telling them how to dress. That would be just as bad as when someone told them how to dress before they came out and admitted their transgendered feelings. The core concept of being transgendered is being comfortable in who you are. You are not to be used as a Barbie or Ken doll by your therapist for them to arrange your life as they think is correct. It is my choice how I wear my hair and dress and I have been making that decision for 40+ years. Trans people are far more emotionally vulnerable to suggestion and they should h be permitted to be who they are, even when they make fashion mistakes like I did when I was a teen and in my 20's. Thankful there were no cell phones and social media so only a few very people have a snapshot or even memories of those 1980s horrific mistakes.
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Except that there often are parents pushing their kids, seriously I think a lot of these "MY 3 YEAR OLD IS TRANS" are parents with Munchausen by Proxy, instead of making their kid "sick" to get attention this is the substitute. It DOES happen, and a lot of the Trans regret show this. THAT **** is where we need the brake checks for.
 
Renae said:
Except that there often are parents pushing their kids, seriously I think a lot of these "MY 3 YEAR OLD IS TRANS" are parents with Munchausen by Proxy, instead of making their kid "sick" to get attention this is the substitute. It DOES happen, and a lot of the Trans regret show this. THAT **** is where we need the brake checks for.
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Munchausen by Proxy is a real thing and rare, yeah. But "transitioning" a child doesn't make the child sick. Confused maybe but it will be straighten out later. And any competent psychologist/psychiatrist will be able to spot it miles away.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I think that is a false assertion, I believe "desire", ones sexual desire is inherent, not learned.
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We are not talking about sexual desire we are talking about gender. You are confused and my statement isn't false.
 
AProudLefty said:
Munchausen by Proxy is a real thing and rare, yeah. But "transitioning" a child doesn't make the child sick. Confused maybe but it will be straighten out later. .
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A transitioning child is sick with the mental disorder of gender dysphoria. And even after the transition is complete, the sickness frequently remains and is never straightened out.
 
dixon01767 said:
A transitioning child is sick with the mental disorder of gender dysphoria. And even after the transition is complete, the sickness frequently remains and is never straightened out.
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Do they look sick to you?

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dixon01767 said:
Course it does. Homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, these are identities chosen by the individual.
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dixon01767 said:
Well, the gender is assumed and correct in 90 something percent of the time. Gender is everything OTHER than biology. Long hair, pretty dresses, makeup, feminine demeanor, these all come later. No one is born with a desire for a pretty dress and makeup.
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dixon01767 said:
We are not talking about sexual desire we are talking about gender. You are confused and my statement isn't false.
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Again, YOU ARE arguing over SEXUAL ORIENTATION, what/who one desires. Gender is not a determination of orientation. Orientation is inherent, not "chosen".
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Again, YOU ARE arguing over SEXUAL ORIENTATION, what/who one desires. Gender is not a determination of orientation. Orientation is inherent, not "chosen".
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Desire for a pretty dress and makeup isn't a sexual orientation.
 
AProudLefty said:
Munchausen by Proxy is a real thing and rare, yeah. But "transitioning" a child doesn't make the child sick. Confused maybe but it will be straighten out later. And any competent psychologist/psychiatrist will be able to spot it miles away.
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APL, no, a lot of therapist are ready to hand you freaking hormones the moment you say "I think I'm trans." I know because I went to SEVERAL before I found one willing to WORK with me on the "why" before jumping straight into "TRANSITION". That scared the **** out of me.
 
Renae said:
APL, no, a lot of therapist are ready to hand you freaking hormones the moment you say "I think I'm trans." I know because I went to SEVERAL before I found one willing to WORK with me on the "why" before jumping straight into "TRANSITION". That scared the **** out of me.
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I am not dismissing your experience. I'm sure it happened. However, how often does that happen with other children?
 
dixon01767 said:
Desire for a pretty dress and makeup isn't a sexual orientation.
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I'll keep reposting this until you recognize that you were discussing sexual orientation:

dixon01767 said:
Course it does. Homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, these are identities chosen by the individual.
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dixon01767 said:
Well, the gender is assumed and correct in 90 something percent of the time. Gender is everything OTHER than biology. Long hair, pretty dresses, makeup, feminine demeanor, these all come later. No one is born with a desire for a pretty dress and makeup.
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dixon01767 said:
We are not talking about sexual desire we are talking about gender. You are confused and my statement isn't false.
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Again, YOU ARE arguing over SEXUAL ORIENTATION, what/who one desires. Gender is not a determination of orientation. Orientation is inherent, not "chosen".
 
AProudLefty said:
How so? The question makes your claim stupid.
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Asking me if they look sick right before admitting that such mental sickness isn't visible. Like asking if I see your invisible friend.
 
dixon01767 said:
Asking me if they look sick right before admitting that such mental sickness isn't visible. Like asking if I see your invisible friend.
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You're the one who claimed that those people are sick. Maybe you don't look sick to us but are you?
The claim is on you.
 
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