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You want evidence? Bolton book outlines Trump is guilty

No he doesn't have to resign.
a half ass leak that has 0 context is nothing.

we know the sycophants will eat it up and dump millions into bolton's pocket but
guess what no one else cares. the rest of society isn't so triggered on TDS.

bolton is playing the same thing that comey did. guess what? comey had nothing as well.
except the millions from TDS sycophants.

lol.

Sorry, you literally need to stop watching Fox News. It's detrimental to your mental health.
 
Take a look at almost every thread on here lately and watch all these small government voters, who preached for decades that they never trusted any politician, cover up for one of the most corrupt politicians the country has ever seen.

They were always lying about not trusting politicians and they were always lying about being small government and in addition to that there were always lying about being pro military and they've always lied about being against our debt.

Fakes is the right word.

Scumbags is probably better. These people are scumbags
 
Suddenly Bolton is a source of truth and light for the left.
Suddenly, Trumpworld turns on one of its own. Again. Anyway....

I've always seen Bolton as a warmonger and deeply wrong about how to handle foreign policy. That hasn't changed.

I never thought he was a liar. That hasn't changed.
 
You once again prove you have no clue what you are talking about.

Bolton'''s manuscript leaks as memoir pre-orders begin on Amazon; Trump fires back | Fox News
The Times further claimed Bolton had shared a manuscript of his forthcoming book with "close associates" -- prompting Bolton's team to deny the claim, and assert that the National Security Council's [NSC's] review process of pending manuscripts is "corrupted" and prone to leaks.

A "pre-publication review" at the NSC, which functions as the White House's national security forum, is standard for any former government officials who held security clearances and publicly write or speak publicly about their official work. The review typically would focus on ferreting out any classified or sensitive material in advance of publication, and could take from days to months.

It is required by the NSC.
and yes if there is classified material it must be removed if it has not been unclassified.
learn what you are talking about before spouting off at other people.

The book has not been published.

Who is required to get the review? What are the penalties for not getting the review?


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Just a few months ago just like comey he was demonized as a liar and untrustworthy by the left.
now all we have is gas lighting and virtue signalling that he is the epitome of virtue and honesty.


of course they are... it's completely evident that this entire sham is all about getting Trump at any cost.
 
Suddenly, Trumpworld turns on one of its own. Again. Anyway....

I've always seen Bolton as a warmonger and deeply wrong about how to handle foreign policy. That hasn't changed.

I never thought he was a liar. That hasn't changed.



BS I have not liked Bolton since he advised all out war with Iran over the drone incident. now I think that whatever this is, it is from a disgruntled person due to his advice not being carried out.
 
No he couldn't. Lefties will be falling over themselves to buy his book now. Wow did bolton sucker you guys right into his wallet.

I don't doubt anyone who is claiming he is only lying to sell books would be quoting him over and over again if he stuck to the perfect call narrative.

It's only reasonable now to have him testify and see what he has to say under oath.
 
nope, absolutely not. Bolton is not the end all be all of the truth here.

Exactly, Bolton is not the end all be all of the truth. He could be the beginning of the truth, however. You DO want the complete truth do you not?

We all need to hear from Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompeo and others and we all need to see relevant documents, don’t you agree?
 
Trumpsters, suck on this....




DIRECT EVIDENCE.

Why do you believe John Bolton? He has a motive to lie you know. To sell books. And even if everything he says is true it still doesn't raise what Trump did to the level of impeachment and removal from office.
 
BS I have not liked Bolton since he advise all out war with Iran over the drone incident. now I think that whatever this is, it is from a disgruntled person due to his advice not being carried out.

I don't have any reason to doubt Bolton even though I don't agree with him, politically. What I have a lot of doubt about is Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens because Joe Biden was a 2020 political rival.
There is actual evidence to the contrary coming from testimony from the house intelligence committee saying Trump said the investigations were about events leading up to the 2016 election.
 
We all need to hear from Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompeo and others and we all need to see relevant documents, don’t you agree?

If we did then the House should've called them as witnesses and gone through the courts to force their testimony.

Why didn't they?
 
Why do you believe John Bolton? He has a motive to lie you know. To sell books. And even if everything he says is true it still doesn't raise what Trump did to the level of impeachment and removal from office.

Let’s give him motivation to tell the truth.. put him under oath and let’s see what he says


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Exactly, Bolton is not the end all be all of the truth. He could be the beginning of the truth, however. You DO want the complete truth do you not?

We all need to hear from Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompeo and others and we all need to see relevant documents, don’t you agree?

If the republican senators feel the need, then sure. if not though, and think they have heard enough to acquit, I am also fine with that.
 
LOL. Direct evidence from an unnamed anonymous source? Doesn't get any better than that.

Direct evidence - from John Bolton.

Sorry.

checkmate.

If the republicans ignore this, they will have destroyed our constitution.
 
Bull crap you guys were railing your heads off on how dishonest and what a hack he is still you get s sniff of some anti-trump
stuff and then he is a hero. just like comey. He was the devil and the biggest evil since satan when he was investigating clinton.
that he should have been fired etc ... until he went anti-trump then he was hoisted on chairs.

so please spare us if we don't believe the rhetoric.
Pull your head out, ludin. I’m not “you guys” and I haven’t ever asserted that Bolton is dishonest.
 
Let’s give him motivation to tell the truth.. put him under oath and let’s see what he says


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This impeachment is illegitimate. The impeachment crimes are illegitimate and the premise of the articles that Trump wanted is investigate an upcoming political rival is illegitimate.

If the impeachment is illegitimate, why is there a need for more witnesses?
 
I don't have any reason to doubt Bolton even though I don't agree with him, politically. What I have a lot of doubt about is Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens because Joe Biden was a 2020 political rival.
There is actual evidence to the contrary coming from testimony from the house intelligence committee saying Trump said the investigations were about events leading up to the 2016 election.

I agreee. and to me that is the ONLY thing that MIGHT be worthy of impeachment. we have even sen that withholding aid or whatever is a standard diplomatic tactic used by Obama and Biden most recently.
even IF he did it totally wrong Censure would be the most appropriate measure for that, not impeachment.
 
Pull your head out, ludin. I’m not “you guys” and I haven’t ever asserted that Bolton is dishonest.

This is going to keep happening. It's just going to keep spilling out of this WH.

What is concealed now, will be shouted from the mountaintops later.

This is the endgame.
 
Bolton is a self admitted liar in matters of national scurity. Whether that applies to other areas or not remains to be seen.

I have no idea if this rumor is true or not, and neither do you.
1. Show proof (with link/s) of Bolton’s supposed lies.
2. Go back and read my post. I didn’t say Bolton is telling the truth. Only that he is not known for lying.
 
This impeachment is illegitimate. The impeachment crimes are illegitimate and the premise of the articles that Trump wanted is investigate an upcoming political rival is illegitimate.

If the impeachment is illegitimate, why is there a need for more witnesses?

I don’t know, I saw articles of impeachment delivered to the senate.. Was this all a prank by Pelosi??.. dang it, I fell for it


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So the senate should just wait till 3/17 to find out what Bolton has to say? If only they had some way to ask him to come tell his story..


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The House had a way. They could've issued subpoenas and gone to court to have them enforced, except that they would've had to allow the witnesses legal counsel - something the House had refused to allow. That's called denial of due process, and That's at least part of the reason the House should have to do it over again.
 
I agreee. and to me that is the ONLY thing that MIGHT be worthy of impeachment. we have even sen that withholding aid or whatever is a standard diplomatic tactic used by Obama and Biden most recently.
even IF he did it totally wrong Censure would be the most appropriate measure for that, not impeachment.

Complete nonsense and ignorant of federal appropriations law..


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Complete nonsense and ignorant of federal appropriations law..


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oh ya? how about you inform me then , where a breach, possibly even accidental, of FAL is considered a High crime and misdemeanor?

I await your FAL or constitutional excerpts.
 
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