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You Voted For Budget Cuts. Why Are You Crying Now Alaska

Crakhobarbie said:
Well, to be 100% accurate, donald insisted over and over that he would not cut Madicaid.

But, donalds word is dogshite, and now thousands will suffer and die because of him and his sycophants, who are gleefully cheering on their own demise from the sidelines.

God bless Orange Julius (Cesar)
God bless the halfwits.
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he gave his word....................

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skews13. said:
President Donald Trump campaigned on gutting the federal government—slashing Medicaid, killing food assistance, ending clean energy tax credits, and defunding agencies that keep rural America afloat. More than 54% of Alaskans voted for him in 2024 anyway.

This isn’t new. Red states have long depended on the very federal programs that their politicians vow to destroy. When Trump cuts the Federal Emergency Management Agency, it’s the governors of red states who panic. When Medicaid is attacked, it’s rural hospitals in deep-red counties that go under. With SNAP on the chopping block, red states suffer the most. West Virginia, for example, has 16% of its population on food stamps.

And through it all, blue states keep footing the bill—only to be smeared as “socialist” for insisting that the government should actually help people.

In fact, the small-government crowd is the most dependent on assistance from the government. The same politicians who rail against handouts suddenly demand carveouts when the axe swings their way—like Sen. Lisa Murkowski scrambling to shield Alaska from the very law her constituents voted for. It’s a pattern, and it’s getting old.

www.dailykos.com

You voted for budget cuts. Why are you crying now, Alaska?

Two Alaskan lawmakers—including one Republican and one independent—just published a hand-wringing op-ed in The New York Times warning that the GOP’s latest budget reconciliation bill ...
www.dailykos.com
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Airyaman said:
No, he is correct. Trump did not run on gutting the government. In fact, if you recall, he tried to distance himself from Project 2025 multiple times. Shamefully he was quick to let them run his admin, but it is not something he ran on.
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Yes, he lied about his intentions. What a surprise. I recall Trump lying about not knowing about Project 2025, even though he shared a private plane ride with its found. The campaign definitely tried to distance him, but it was entirely smoke and mirrors. As soon they got into office, things changed.

Airyaman said:
Gutting the government is a Project 2025 thing.
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Not entirely. Bannon has been talking about tearing it all down for years, and he has Trump's ear. And many Trump-supporting posters on this site echoed the same sentiments, including gutting the administrative state. They knew exactly what they were voting for.
 
Airyaman said:
No, he is correct. Trump did not run on gutting the government. In fact, if you recall, he tried to distance himself from Project 2025 multiple times. Shamefully he was quick to let them run his admin, but it is not something he ran on.

Gutting the government is a Project 2025 thing.
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Airyaman said:
That still isn't "gutting the federal government". What DOGE and Project 2025 are doing is way beyond anything Trump proposed.
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Again, nothing more than a semantic argument.
 
Crakhobarbie said:
Well, to be 100% accurate, donald insisted over and over that he would not cut Madicaid.

But, donalds word is dogshite, and now thousands will suffer and die because of him and his sycophants, who are gleefully cheering on their own demise from the sidelines.

God bless Orange Julius (Cesar)
God bless the halfwits.
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He still claims that he did not cut medicaid and as usual lies make everything right.
 
Mycroft is right on this one. Trump didn’t, but…

He let it happen once in office. Not only that…

But the MAGA-sphere demanded that it should happen before, during and after the campaign.

MAGA politicians also demanded it.

Certain members on this board also demanded it.

So, does it really matter if Mycroft is right when many in MAGA publicly stated they wanted it and when Trump won, he allowed DOGE to happen as well as the Big Beautiful Bill?

To get back to the point of why some MAGA folks are upset about it…

They are upset because they thought the consequences would happen to others, the bad Americans, and that they would somehow be exempt for being MAGA.
 
Airyaman said:
Actually, this time, Mycroft is correct.


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If one is going to cite a "platform" as what Trump campaigned on, at least two points bear examination:

First, in the 2020 election, the Trump campaign refused to define a platform, and the party ended up reusing the 2016 platform.
So much for Trump's respect for "platforms" What the author presents has no connection to anything that Trump promised at rallies.

Second, it was widely theorized that Trump's 2024 "platform" was the Project 2025. At the time he very adamantly declared that he knew nothing about that...that it did not exist....that he never heard of it. So much for Trump's respect for truth, as the writers of that document are now his staff, and he's following every line.

Trump lies about every topic that crosses his mind. He did promise an instant and inhumane public round up of "illegals" and to some extent he has delivered that red meat to his fans. He also promised to rid the nation of women and minorities that hold positions that "rightly" belong to white men, and he has delivered.
 
Airyaman said:
That still isn't "gutting the federal government". What DOGE and Project 2025 are doing is way beyond anything Trump proposed.
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way beyond anything Trump admitted would be a more accurate statement.
 
Been saying this for awhile. Just like patriarchy and toxic masculinity hurt men, white supremacy/white natonalism, hurts white folk also.

We are seeing the consequences of bigotry in real time. The capitalist donor class is reaping the rewards of having redirected your anger towards all sorts of manufactured nonsense - wokeness run amok, LGBTQ folk, illegal immigration, Dr Fauci - instead of them.

Now they're telling you to go **** yourself to your face and like it.
 
Lycanthrope said:
The list of horrors is long: Nearly 40,000 Alaskans will lose their health coverage, tens of thousands will go hungry as SNAP benefits are slashed, rural clinics and grocery stores will disappear, schools will be defunded, and entire communities will be left to fend for themselves.

All of it is true. And all of it is the direct result of the agenda that Alaska voted for.
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Which is why I can't wait to hear them squealing like stuck pigs.
 
Airyaman said:
Actually, this time, Mycroft is correct.


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While that is correct, Project 2025 most certainly called for slashing the government. Though Trump tried to distance himself from Project 2025, anyone that is reasonably savvy knows this would happen (or be attempted) under Trump. If you didn't know it then (because you were not politically savvy or just foolish), you certainly knew it when Project 2025's chief architect was nominated to be head of the OMB, the perfect position to implement its precepts.
 
No Trump voter can now complain if they get kicked off medical care or have vital services they use cancelled because it's now critically underfunded.
 
Volunteer said:
Yes, he did.
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Maybe you can provide something...an entry on his campaign website, a statement at a rally...anything?...where he says he wants to "gut the federal government".

If you can't do that, then you are simply wrong.

Volunteer said:
Gutting FEMA. So there's that.
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Gutting FEMA isn't gutting the government. Hell, gutting the Department of Education isn't gutting the government.

Please...try to avoid hyperbole when engaging in a discussion, eh?
 
MamboDervish said:
This is simply wrong. In fact, it's bullshit. It's making what is only a semantic argument. Any campaign to cut federal funding from anywhere is gutting the federal government. Even within the article itself, plank 16 boasts cutting “federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children.”, all entirely capriciously determined by the Trump administration. What exactly is "pushing" critical race theory? Only Trump's education secretary knows.

Trump campaigned on reversing virtually any and every Biden initiative, and handed down dozens of EOs to that effect within weeks of taking office. How do you fulfill the very overt campaign promise of gutting regulations without gutting the regulatory bodies that monitor and enforce them? Answer: You can't. Witness cuts at the FDA and USDA as just a couple of examples.
www.reuters.com

Explainer: How does US food safety work, and what cuts has Trump made?

Recent actions by President Donald Trump's administration, including staff cuts at the Food and Drug Administration, have raised questions among consumers about food safety in the United States.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

When you promise the fossil fuel industry to remove the burdensome regulations on their profits at the expense of the health of the nation, you do it by cutting the EPA staff.

EPA Under Trump Besieged by Mass Terminations, Axed Programs, Funding Cuts

The nation’s environmental watchdog is under an “unprecedented” attack
www.sierraclub.org www.sierraclub.org

The same goes for enforcing mining regulations with the MSHA and the Bureau of Land Management.
www.americanprogress.org

The Trump Administration Is Recklessly Axing Funding and Staff for America’s National Parks, Forests, and Public Lands

The number of visitors to America’s public lands remains at an all-time high, while the Trump administration has made drastic cuts to popular agencies.
www.americanprogress.org www.americanprogress.org

Not only did Trump campaign on widespread deregulation, his campaign coffers directly profited from the raping and polluting industries. I'm not sure on what planet all of the federal watchdog agencies that protect American lives and national resources are suddenly not part of the federal government, but here on earth they still are ... by definition!
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You could have turned your set off right that beauty.
Reducing spending for any Government program is "gutting the Government".
Yeah, you're a Progressive all right.
Once the Federal Government creates something it has to keep it going.
A reader can imagine the teardrops on your keyboard.
 
bubbabgone said:
You could have turned your set off right that beauty.
Reducing spending for any Government program is "gutting the Government".
Yeah, you're a Progressive all right.
Once the Federal Government creates something it has to keep it going.
A reader can imagine the teardrops on your keyboard.
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Ironically, that beauty of a sentence is where you cut off your comprehension. And no surprise at all. Because attempting to address the actual content of the balance of my post might result in bringing tears to your own eyes. I guess we'll just have to assume that you're okay with poisoning US citizens and poisoning the planet. Well, ... I am not.
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MamboDervish said:
Ironically, that beauty of a sentence is where you cut off your comprehension. And no surprise at all. Because attempting to address the actual content of the balance of my post might result in bringing tears to your own eyes. I guess we'll just have to assume that you're okay with poisoning US citizens and poisoning the planet. Well, ... I am not.
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The balance of your post was baseless overwrought drama-queenery worthy of Jasmine Crockett.
 
bubbabgone said:
The balance of your post was baseless overwrought drama-queenery worthy of Jasmine Crockett.
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Breathtaking bullshit. EPA regulations alone have probably saved or lengthened tens-of-thousands of lives since its inception in 1970. I remember what it was like just standing behind an idling vehicle 50 years ago, and a person simply could not breathe. I grew up in the inner city where choking smog was an almost daily event. Now it's a rare occurrence. Nothing overwrought or drama-queeny about any of that. The EPA was truly a conservative initiative of a federal government that understood that the lives and well-being of the American public was much more important than the bottom lines of polluting corporations, no matter how much lobbying and campaign monies they threw at our elected officials in DC.

And that just covers one of the applicable points in my post.
 
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