WuFlu Impact On Porn

[CLAX1911]

I don't understand why it is so difficult for people to understand that we've been compromised, and taken advantage of here. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he could devastate Iran and its people much quicker, by piping in American pornography and media. His admission was true- in order to ruin young people, simply ply them with porn, drugs, casual sex, LGBT options, child molestation, and within one generation,,society will be fractured, broken, and incapable of offering up resistance against those who prey on them.

Pornography is a symptom of a bigger problem, nothing you posted here argued that

Hollywood is rife with the same degenerate scum that pornography is, such as Harvey Weinstein. There's very little difference. Men like Weinstein use propaganda in film to enact their revenge, while poronographers use a more obvious, less subtle form.

So should we ban movies?

 

[truthatallcost]

Pornography is a symptom of a bigger problem, nothing you posted here argued that

Yet the one fact you can't maneuver around is the fact that porn has only existed for the last hundred years, and with greater accessibility to porn has come a host of problems. There are no benefits from porn.

So should we ban movies?

Something should be done about Hollywood. They just make unimaginative trash now.

 

[CLAX1911]

Yet the one fact you can't maneuver around is the fact that porn has only existed for the last hundred years,

disagreed it's existed in one form or another for thousands of years.

and with greater accessibility to porn has come a host of problems. There are no benefits from porn.

that's because there's greater access to most things. something doesn't have to be beneficial in order to exist but we don't live in a Communist dictatorship.

Something should be done about Hollywood. They just make unimaginative trash now.

the only thing that can be done people aren't willing to do and that's stop watching. Same thing with pornography. as long as there is a demand for it it will exist.

 

[truthatallcost]

disagreed it's existed in one form or another for thousands of years.
that's because there's greater access to most things. something doesn't have to be beneficial in order to exist but we don't live in a Communist dictatorship.


the only thing that can be done people aren't willing to do and that's stop watching. Same thing with pornography. as long as there is a demand for it it will exist.

So porn serves no legitimate purpose, has no benefits, and should go on ensnaring people because there's a demand for it? I have a difficult time accepting that.

I've stopped consuming Hollywood's products. It puts me at odds with some people in my age group, but I don't feel like I've given up anything meaningful. I miss going to the movies, only because I enjoyed the experience, but I found that I wasn't enjoying the actual films. I do still watch foreign films, as I believe they're still producing art, not the useless drivel coming out of Weinsteinland.

 

[CLAX1911]

So porn serves no legitimate purpose, has no benefits, and should go on ensnaring people because there's a demand for it? I have a difficult time accepting that.

I didn't say anything about what should happen. All I mentioned is what is.

I've stopped consuming Hollywood's products. It puts me at odds with some people in my age group, but I don't feel like I've given up anything meaningful.

good if you recall enjoy something you shouldn't pay for it because of social pressure.

I miss going to the movies, only because I enjoyed the experience, but I found that I wasn't enjoying the actual films.

I went for the film's in the theater sound now that I can have that in my home for relatively low cost, the movie theater no longer serves a purpose

I do still watch foreign films, as I believe they're still producing art, not the useless drivel coming out of Weinsteinland.

Good you should enjoy what you like for whatever reason you like it.

 

[CLAX1911]

You know why no one is having sex?

Because of Japan’s degenerate pornographic culture.

I think you're putting the cart in front of the horse. Entertainment doesn't drive culture culture dries entertainment. what you're saying is essentially the same thing as when people blame video games for violence. That's backward that's not how reality works.

Entertainment like pornography is a reflection of a culture.

Japan's degenerate pornography culture exists because people aren't having sex. A product comes in to fill the void.

Disordered perversion is on open display, from fetish vending machines to animated porn, to a work culture that discourages family life, all kinds of stupid crap

You touched on something here and I think you're onto something. Their work culture discourages family life therefore the Japanese have a void to fill, therefore Pornography comes along, and sex robots. Human courtship is a big part of relationships. we need to spend a lot of time getting to know a person before we decide to start a family with them.

When you spend much if your time focused on your career you don't have time for things like relationships, therefore things like pornography finds a niche.

 

[CLAX1911]

You know how you go from the lower 85% to the upper 15 with women?

You do realize 15% isn't average right? You realized you missed the point?

By not being a *****. Women already have one, they don’t want their man to be one.

so the problem is men? Well if a guy has to break his back to impress a woman than they opt out of it. I don't blame them. It seems to be a waste of life to try and impress a person that deems 85% of men below average.

This attitude is exactly why we are where we are.

I’m being a little crude but somethings are that simple.

Yeah it's simple, forget yourself live only to impress people with ridiculously high standards and if you don't waste your life doing this you are a *****.

Well I understand why men choose to be what you would consider a *****, they can be happier.

So last year I lost a bunch of weight (using the discipline from giving up shameless self pleasure) and just started asking women out. I’ve been on dates with 5 different ladies, two were Hispanic, one was Asian, two were Canadian citizens, three were better educated then me and had higher paying jobs (and knew that when they said yes) and now I’ve been consistently dating the 5th one for some time now and it seems it’s going places.

Nice anecdote, and I am happy for you. But your experience isn't the average. And it doesn't mean anything to the discussion.

It’s really easier then many men think. Many ladies these days get a lot of creeper attention but no sincere respectful attention. Women rate 85% of men below average when shown pictures, but here’s the deal, women are less interested in physical attractiveness then men.

Yeah they are more interested in their ability to provide for the lifestyle they want. When women are promoted over men, preferred in college over men and hired over men, men lose opportunity.

They’re less interested in sex then men, they are more interested In confidence and respect in men.

You can have all the confidence and respect in the world, if you are a janitor or a fast food worker, you are in the bottom.

That’s it. All you have to do is ask a lady out, have your life somewhat In order, and not be a creeper.

So again, 85% of men don't have their life in order or are a creeper? How does our economy work?

You’ll have so much estrogen raining down on you you’ll need a helmet.

So you are a stud?

Note: yes I know that there are 7 billion unique human beings and that not everyone is the same... I am talking generalities

Yeah, generally 85% of men are losers and creeps. Seems a bit misanthropic is all.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

You do realize 15% isn't average right? You realized you missed the point?
so the problem is men? Well if a guy has to break his back to impress a woman than they opt out of it. I don't blame them. It seems to be a waste of life to try and impress a person that deems 85% of men below average.

This attitude is exactly why we are where we are.
Yeah it's simple, forget yourself live only to impress people with ridiculously high standards and if you don't waste your life doing this you are a *****.

Well I understand why men choose to be what you would consider a *****, they can be happier.
Nice anecdote, and I am happy for you. But your experience isn't the average. And it doesn't mean anything to the discussion.
Yeah they are more interested in their ability to provide for the lifestyle they want. When women are promoted over men, preferred in college over men and hired over men, men lose opportunity. You can have all the confidence and respect in the world, if you are a janitor or a fast food worker, you are in the bottom.


So again, 85% of men don't have their life in order or are a creeper? How does our economy work? So you are a stud?

Yeah, generally 85% of men are losers and creeps. Seems a bit misanthropic is all.

Well clearly not 85% of men since most men have wives/girlfriends.

The point is not that 85% of men are below average, the point is your average woman will rate 85% below average on looks, but that doesn’t matter because looks are not as important to them.

So men who are watching porn and justify their practices on the idea that women are the problem are losers who probably could get a decent lady if they actually put in effort.

 

[CLAX1911]

Well clearly not 85% of men since most men have wives/girlfriends.

85%Of men seeking women. This should have been assumed.

If it's the case that these men are losers and creeps than we have bigger problems. maybe if that's the case our culture shouldn't survive.

The point is not that 85% of men are below average,

yes that's the point. When most women rate 80 to 85% of men below average that's a problem. That's the point that's the reason why we are having the problems we are having.

the point is your average woman will rate 85% below average on looks, but that doesn’t matter because looks are not as important to them.

If women refuse to date 85% of men based on looks than yes looks do matter. But it's not looks. It's instinctual. Women generally don't want to date men who generate less wealth then they do. You can say it's because they are losers or creeps but that's just Petty name calling and it ignores a verified trend that has existed through all of history.

The problem is neglecting the needs of boys and men in school, college, and career.

"Just stop being a *****" is worthless. Even if you are 100% correct.

So men who are watching porn and justify their practices on the idea that women are the problem are losers who probably could get a decent lady if they actually put in effort.

Easy to say, but not easy to prove.

I think you're just blaming men because of your own experience.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

85%Of men seeking women. This should have been assumed.

If it's the case that these men are losers and creeps than we have bigger problems. maybe if that's the case our culture shouldn't survive.

This isn’t even a string of coherent sentences. I don’t know what you’re trying to say.

yes that's the point. When most women rate 80 to 85% of men below average that's a problem. That's the point that's the reason why we are having the problems we are having.

it is not a problem

If women refuse to date 85% of men based on looks than yes looks do matter. But it's not looks. It's instinctual. Women generally don't want to date men who generate less wealth then they do.

In practice this is very flexible

You can say it's because they are losers or creeps but that's just Petty name calling and it ignores a verified trend that has existed through all of history.

name calling is usually true.

The problem is neglecting the needs of boys and men in school, college, and career.

Whatever truth there may be to that, men as adults can always improve their situation. And if you’re jerking off you can start there. Stop it.

"Just stop being a *****" is worthless. Even if you are 100% correct.

It’s the best thing you can do if you are one.

Run 5 miles, take cold showers and stop jerking off. That is guaranteed to de-pussify you in 30 days.

Easy to say, but not easy to prove.

I think you're just blaming men because of your own experience.

I know I’m not the strongest or smartest man ever, so If I can manage improvement then anyone can.

 

[CLAX1911]

This isn’t even a string of coherent sentences. I don’t know what you’re trying to say.
it is not a problem


In practice this is very flexible
name calling is usually true.


Whatever truth there may be to that, men as adults can always improve their situation. And if you’re jerking off you can start there. Stop it.


It’s the best thing you can do if you are one.

Run 5 miles, take cold showers and stop jerking off. That is guaranteed to de-pussify you in 30 days.




I know I’m not the strongest or smartest man ever, so If I can manage improvement then anyone can.

I don't need help finding a woman. Exercising is good advice but nothing else you stated is.

You should probably have a stable relationship for more than a couple of months before you offer advice.

 

[CLAX1911]

This isn’t even a string of coherent sentences. I don’t know what you’re trying to say.
it is not a problem


In practice this is very flexible
name calling is usually true.


Whatever truth there may be to that, men as adults can always improve their situation. And if you’re jerking off you can start there. Stop it.


It’s the best thing you can do if you are one.

Run 5 miles, take cold showers and stop jerking off. That is guaranteed to de-pussify you in 30 days.




I know I’m not the strongest or smartest man ever, so If I can manage improvement then anyone can.

The better advice is to be yourself, if you're not exercising to improve yourself but to find women you aren't going to keep them very long. If you're not masturbating so you can find women you are not going keep them very long.

 

[OscarLevant]

tough. pornography should be illegal anyway.

Are you against public nudity?

 

[OscarLevant]

tough. pornography should be illegal anyway.

What would you say about our president, who appeared in a porn film?

What would you say about a president, who bragged about committing sexual assualt?

What would you say about a president, who bragged about barging in on teen dressing rooms during a teen pageant, all of whom would be in various stages of dress, and do it unnounced?

 

[OscarLevant]

Consent is irrelevant, you cannot be permitted to consent to evil

Is simulated explicit sex for entertainment purposes, done in public, evil?

Is simulated explicit violence for entertainment purposes, done in public, evil?

 

[OscarLevant]

I don’t think it needs to be stopped. Merely punished.

Unlike the left or libertarians, I do not believe a utopia can ever be made, that being said I do not use that as an excuse for why anything should go.

Please define pornography.

 

[OscarLevant]

I have no respect for sex workers, it is not a job, it's not an art, it's sh*t, it's utter Sh*t.

if they lose their "jobs" oh well, thats fine

If someone paid you $10,000,000 to appear naked while masturbating in a film, to be distributed, the intent of which was to arouse women and gay men, would you do it?

 

[OscarLevant]

I have no respect for sex workers, it is not a job, it's not an art, it's sh*t, it's utter Sh*t.

if they lose their "jobs" oh well, thats fine

If someone paid you $10,000,000 to appear naked while masturbating in a film, to be distributed, the intent of which was to arouse women and gay men, would you do it?

 

[OscarLevant]

So? They're dead. I'm alive. As the saying goes, "A living dog is greater than a dead lion".

they had to die, the lived in the 18th century.

You'll have to die, too, eventually.

How does that make you greater than the founding fathers, noting that the primary difference between the founding fathers and you is that they founded a nation that you, and many others, continue to enjoy, and you did not.

I'll file your comment in the dumbest comment I've ever seen, file.

 

[Dayton3]

What would you say about our president, who appeared in a porn film?

What would you say about a president, who bragged about committing sexual assualt?

What would you say about a president, who bragged about barging in on teen dressing rooms during a teen pageant, all of whom would be in various stages of dress, and do it unnounced?

President Trump is an utterly disgusting and repulsive person for those reasons (and many more). Which is one of the big reasons I did not vote for him.

I've made that clear repeatedly on this board.

 

[TypicalRussian]

If someone paid you $10,000,000 to appear naked while masturbating in a film, to be distributed, the intent of which was to arouse women and gay men, would you do it?

No. nac

 

[TypicalRussian]

Well clearly not 85% of men since most men have wives/girlfriends.

The point is not that 85% of men are below average, the point is your average woman will rate 85% below average on looks, but that doesn’t matter because looks are not as important to them.

So men who are watching porn and justify their practices on the idea that women are the problem are losers who probably could get a decent lady if they actually put in effort.

but that doesn’t matter because looks are not as important to them.

are you kidding me? Of course looks are important for SEX, when it comes to marriage it is all about money, stable living, and kids

 

[TypicalRussian]

If someone paid you $10,000,000 to appear naked while masturbating in a film, to be distributed, the intent of which was to arouse women and gay men, would you do it?

Why are you making hypothetical situations? Discuss what is actually happening now

 

[CLAX1911]

are you kidding me? Of course looks are important for SEX, when it comes to marriage it is all about money, stable living, and kids

Looks are important, but in modern times it seems people are valuing marriage less and less, in valuing hedonism more and more.

 

[OscarLevant]

No. nac

Really, you'd skip on an easy 10 million?


Some would call you a fool. But, of course, no one can call you a whore.