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Woman accuses Al Franken of kissing, groping her without consent

TheGoverness said:
That's great. I didn't say that anybody was.
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You seemed to be claiming that another poster should abandon their convictions due to the way it affected their image. That's simply not a valid rebuttal.
 
ludin said:
it is clear that he did. his fingers are on her clothes on her breasts as i said i don't see how you don't know that is groping.
He shoved his tongue in her mouth unwanted and then groped her and your defending it.

go figure.
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You're just stating lies. That's simply not convincing. Anyone can see the picture and therefore that you're wrong.
 
TheGoverness said:
No, there is absolutely no danger for a man to hang out alone with a woman. What you cannot do however, is try and take advantage of a woman.

And the women who have come forward with their stories are not doing a "disservice" to women at all.
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I see. You might want to rethink that.
 
HenryChinaski said:
You’re probably right dude, I agree with you. And how about Trump? He’s an asshole and in all likelihood a groper too, right?
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He grabs ******s. Completely healthy. :lol:
 
MSgt said:
Has anybody else noticed that the other thing in common that these guys seem to have is that they are all old and out of former generations?

- Takaei
- Hoffman
- Spacey
- Weinstein
- Franken
- Moore
- Trump
- Bush Sr.
- Clinton
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Hey, leave Bush 41 alone.
 
poweRob said:
Well... him bragging about groping women. Oh... how about when he forcibly kissed a journalist. Or is your outrage only reserved for dems. I'll bet that's the case.
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More than that...

A New York woman has told The Guardian that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump grabbed her and kissed her without her consent when she was with her family at a Mother’s Day brunch at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach about 20 years ago.

Heller, now 63, told The Guardian she was with her husband, three children and in-laws at Mar-a-Lago on Mother’s Day in about 1997 when Trump made the rounds and stopped by her table.

“He took my hand, and grabbed me, and went for the lips,” Heller told The Guardian. She said that when she tried to avoid him, “he said, ‘Oh, come on.’ He was strong. And he grabbed me and went for my mouth and went for my lips.” She said she turned her head and Trump kissed the side of her mouth. “He kept me there for a little too long,” Heller said.
http://www.ajc.com/news/national/wo...0s-trump-denies-claim/T6uN77xA6mzdDaEH8dJ8IL/
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Donald Trump Forced a Kiss on Katy Tur - Yahoo

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Why I Spoke Up About Trump

"I'm doing okay," says former People writer Natasha Stoynoff. A bestselling author since leaving the magazine in 2009, Stoynoff, 51, knew she was making herself a political target when she stepped forward on Oct. 12 with a statement about Donald Trump. Three days earlier Trump had said that his caught-on-tape boasts of sexually assaulting women—by forcing kisses on them or grabbing their genitals without consent—were only "locker-room talk...just words." Stoynoff's account of a sexually aggressive December 2005 encounter with him starkly contradicted that.
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And Stoynoff's former journalism professor at Ryerson University, Paul McLaughlin, and a half dozen of her friends and former colleagues have gone on the record to confirm that Stoynoff, even as she kept quiet to her People bosses, confided details of the assault right after it happened. McLaughlin recalls her, in tears, calling from her Florida hotel room that same night. "She wasn't sure what she should do," McLaughlin says. "I advised her not to say anything, because I believed Trump would deny it and try to destroy her." People East Coast news editor Liz McNeil, one of Stoynoff's confidantes, remembers the day Stoynoff got back from the Trump assignment. "She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall," says McNeil."
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https://www.npr.org/2016/10/14/4979...accuser-jessica-leeds-on-why-she-came-forward
"When Jessica Leeds was a traveling paper saleswoman in the late 1970s and early 1980s, she told herself that sexual harassment was just a fact of life.

"You didn't complain about that sort of thing," she told NPR in an interview Friday, which will air on All Things Considered.

But an encounter she says she had with Donald Trump on a New York-bound airplane more than 30 years ago was different. As she initially recounted to the New York Times in a story published Wednesday, she says Trump groped and kissed her as the two sat next to each other in first class."
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"The Times says that Rachel Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist in 2005 working for The Bayrock Group, “a real estate investment and development company in Trump Tower” when the alleged incident occurred. The Times alleges that Crooks says she introduced herself to Trump outside an elevator, and Trump kissed her “directly on the mouth,” which she considers “so inappropriate.”

There's more, if you want.
This doesn't excuse Franken, but Trumpsters sure excused Trump.
 
poweRob said:
Well... him bragging about groping women. Oh... how about when he forcibly kissed a journalist. Or is your outrage only reserved for dems. I'll bet that's the case.
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So he bragged about what he could do? But no real person that it was done to. That’s worthless.


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Paperview said:
More than that...

A New York woman has told The Guardian that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump grabbed her and kissed her without her consent when she was with her family at a Mother’s Day brunch at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach about 20 years ago.

Heller, now 63, told The Guardian she was with her husband, three children and in-laws at Mar-a-Lago on Mother’s Day in about 1997 when Trump made the rounds and stopped by her table.

“He took my hand, and grabbed me, and went for the lips,” Heller told The Guardian. She said that when she tried to avoid him, “he said, ‘Oh, come on.’ He was strong. And he grabbed me and went for my mouth and went for my lips.” She said she turned her head and Trump kissed the side of her mouth. “He kept me there for a little too long,” Heller said.
http://www.ajc.com/news/national/wo...0s-trump-denies-claim/T6uN77xA6mzdDaEH8dJ8IL/
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Donald Trump Forced a Kiss on Katy Tur - Yahoo

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Why I Spoke Up About Trump

"I'm doing okay," says former People writer Natasha Stoynoff. A bestselling author since leaving the magazine in 2009, Stoynoff, 51, knew she was making herself a political target when she stepped forward on Oct. 12 with a statement about Donald Trump. Three days earlier Trump had said that his caught-on-tape boasts of sexually assaulting women—by forcing kisses on them or grabbing their genitals without consent—were only "locker-room talk...just words." Stoynoff's account of a sexually aggressive December 2005 encounter with him starkly contradicted that.
...
And Stoynoff's former journalism professor at Ryerson University, Paul McLaughlin, and a half dozen of her friends and former colleagues have gone on the record to confirm that Stoynoff, even as she kept quiet to her People bosses, confided details of the assault right after it happened. McLaughlin recalls her, in tears, calling from her Florida hotel room that same night. "She wasn't sure what she should do," McLaughlin says. "I advised her not to say anything, because I believed Trump would deny it and try to destroy her." People East Coast news editor Liz McNeil, one of Stoynoff's confidantes, remembers the day Stoynoff got back from the Trump assignment. "She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall," says McNeil."
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https://www.npr.org/2016/10/14/4979...accuser-jessica-leeds-on-why-she-came-forward
"When Jessica Leeds was a traveling paper saleswoman in the late 1970s and early 1980s, she told herself that sexual harassment was just a fact of life.

"You didn't complain about that sort of thing," she told NPR in an interview Friday, which will air on All Things Considered.

But an encounter she says she had with Donald Trump on a New York-bound airplane more than 30 years ago was different. As she initially recounted to the New York Times in a story published Wednesday, she says Trump groped and kissed her as the two sat next to each other in first class."
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"The Times says that Rachel Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist in 2005 working for The Bayrock Group, “a real estate investment and development company in Trump Tower” when the alleged incident occurred. The Times alleges that Crooks says she introduced herself to Trump outside an elevator, and Trump kissed her “directly on the mouth,” which she considers “so inappropriate.”

There's more, if you want.
This doesn't excuse Franken, but Trumpsters sure excused Trump.
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That's different! Somehow. And much less worse than anything a dem has ever done... again.. somehow.
 
Anthony60 said:
So he bragged about what he could do? But no real person that it was done to. That’s worthless.


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That link you just ignored in my post wasn't bragging. It was doing. As well as Paperview's post above your with a slew of other actions he took that you don't care about because well... can't sully the name of your cult leader. Have some more Koolaide Anthony.
 
poweRob said:
That link you just ignored in my post wasn't bragging. It was doing. As well as Paperview's post above your with a slew of other actions he took that you don't care about because well... can't sully the name of your cult leader. Have some more Koolaide Anthony.
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He kissed some woman on the cheek? LOL! What’s next, he shook someone’s hand?


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Anthony60 said:
He kissed some woman on the cheek? LOL! What’s next, he shook someone’s hand?


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Read Paperview's post. How about if I walked up and kissed you on the cheek. Bet you wouldn't be too happy about that. Nice job minimizing and ignoring other times to protect the cult leader. :lol:
 
poweRob said:
Read Paperview's post. How about if I walked up and kissed you on the cheek. Bet you wouldn't be too happy about that. Nice job minimizing and ignoring other times to protect the cult leader. :lol:
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Nothing credible there, it’s all fabricated as far as we know.


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Anthony60 said:
Nothing credible there, it’s all fabricated as far as we know.


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And the cult bubble continues by blocking out what they don't want to hear or believe.
 
poweRob said:
And the cult bubble continues by blocking out what they don't want to hear or believe.
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Sources like the Democrat party, The NY Times, etc... need to be taken with a grain of salt and only believed when verified. So far, no reason to believe this.


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Ass grabber! And no apologies extended.

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Leeann Tweeden, be ashamed!
 
PeteEU said:
So now getting the phone number of a person who you fancy and calling that person up to ask them out on a date.. now makes you a "creepy loon"?
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We have harassment and stalking laws in this country. if it comes to the point where someone is threatening to call the cops if you don't stop calling them, you may be crossing that line.
 
Woman says Al Franken inappropriately touched her in 2010 - CNNPolitics

A woman says Sen. Al Franken inappropriately touched her in 2010, telling CNN that he grabbed her buttocks while taking a photo at the Minnesota State Fair.

It is the first allegation of improper touching by Franken, who is a Democrat, while he was in office. It comes just days after Leeann Tweeden, a local radio news anchor in California, said that Franken forcibly kissed and groped her in 2006, when Franken was a comedian.
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