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With net neutrality gone, you will pay a lot more for your internet!!

EMNofSeattle said:
Allowing internet companies to charge market rate is not a handout
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The more the internet companies consolidate and collude the more power they have over the market rate. The handout is giving them free reign over the internet with little-to-no regulation over something the taxpayers paid for.
 
Geoist said:
Do some research before you speak.
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No kidding.

I was working on military packet switching equipment long before the Al Gore's internet. The newest I worked on before leaving the military was the AT&T DACS III frame. The one puny unit we had was capable of 120 full duplex DS1 signals. It could separate any packet out of any of the 120 inputs and place it on any of the 120 outputs.
 
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Geoist said:
The more the internet companies consolidate and collude the more power they have over the market rate. The handout is giving them free reign over the internet with little-to-no regulation over something the taxpayers paid for.
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Although there are anti trust laws that say otherwise?
 
HowardBThiname said:
Wikipedia begs to differ:
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Yes Being appointed to the Commission not as The Chairmen of the FCC. That is exactly what I said...Obama and Mitch add him to the commission. Trump promoted him to Chairmen..Head of the FCC commission.


Diving Mullah
 
Diving Mullah said:
Yes Being appointed to the Commission not as The Chairmen of the FCC. That is exactly what I said...Obama and Mitch add him to the commission. Trump promoted him to Chairmen..Head of the FCC commission.


Diving Mullah
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Actually, you said Obama only "recommended" him. But, I think we've cleared that up now.
 
RetiredUSN said:
And they have already gone after IP's for throttling, and other issues before the stupid assed Net-Nutering nonsense.
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So you'd rather clog the courts and waste taxpayer dollars on these cases than to have clear cut rules for everyone to follow? Seems counterproductive.
 
RetiredUSN said:
The clear cut rules are why they were taken to court to begin with?
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So you want to clog the courts and waste taxpayer dollars. Gotcha. ;)
 
Lutherf said:
When was internet ever free? Maybe back in the late 70's and early 80's when you picked up your phone, dialed a number and plugged the handset into your modem it was free (as long as you had access to the right phone number) but there wasn't much of an internet at the time. Things didn't start to pop until AOL came along and, while the software was free (almost unavoidable!) the service was on a subscription basis.
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The “internet” began with ARPANET, the first network, funded by the US DoD, and implemented the TCP/IP protocol, by which the internet operates, developed under US government grants. From there, the internet developed by funding from the NSF, National Science Foundation, a US government agency. The internet was born from and developed by taxpayer dollars to be an open and free network. “Open” so that anybody, large corp or individual, had equal access and “free” in that there were no “gatekeepers” charging for just getting onto any site. Repealing net neutrality gives it all away, for free, to corps.
 
jonny5 said:
You dont have a right to send electric pulses through someone elses wire.
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Until net neutrality repeal is installed, I have a right to share electrical pulse through the internet.
 
independentusa said:
Not only that but how many new startups will be able to afford to pay the price for higher speeds to be able to compete with older sites. It will mean fewer choices for us and higher prices for whatever we buy online.
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They would be more able to start up if they were not restricted to using existing infrastructure.
 
independentusa said:
This is all about making big bucks for internet providers and has nothing to do with anything else. And you can bet it will mean a lot more for the GOP campaign funds. And like usual the rest of us will pay the bill so the rich can get richer. Is there anything that the GOP will do for regular Americans and when will most Americans get it? BY the time middle Americans that believe in the GOP realize how they have been fooled it will be way, way to late.
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And that's the loadstone for left wingers, isn't it. Whether or not somebody else pays for their stuff.
 
bluesmoke said:
The “internet” began with ARPANET, the first network, funded by the US DoD, and implemented the TCP/IP protocol, by which the internet operates, developed under US government grants. From there, the internet developed by funding from the NSF, National Science Foundation, a US government agency. The internet was born from and developed by taxpayer dollars to be an open and free network. “Open” so that anybody, large corp or individual, had equal access and “free” in that there were no “gatekeepers” charging for just getting onto any site. Repealing net neutrality gives it all away, for free, to corps.
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OMG...

How did we ever have a great internet before the net neutrality that was repealed?

You are full of it and don't even realize it I bet.
 
jonny5 said:
Show me where you have a right to use an ISPs property.
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I have been, and everyone else, assuming you also, using ISP's property. A service provided without cost is within rights until legally otherwise, like repealing net neutrality.
 
Lord of Planar said:
OMG...

How did we ever have a great internet before the net neutrality that was repealed?

You are full of it and don't even realize it I bet.
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What facts have you to refute what I posted?
 
jonny5 said:
Show me where you have a right to use an ISPs property.
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What made the internet all come about was paid for by taxpayers. Show me where corps have a right to dictate what will be, after such net public investment to the benefit of the corps.
 
bluesmoke said:
What made the internet all come about was paid for by taxpayers. Show me where corps have a right to dictate what will be, after such net public investment to the benefit of the corps.
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Taxpayers paid for research 40 years ago into connecting universities. Trillions in products sales paid for all the software, switches, routers, modem, computers, cables, and services that make up the internet. And since the corporations own all that, they have right to say how its used. I pay $80 a month for my access. Its not free.
 
jonny5 said:
Taxpayers paid for research 40 years ago into connecting universities. Trillions in products sales paid for all the software, switches, routers, modem, computers, cables, and services that make up the internet. And since the corporations own all that, they have right to say how its used. I pay $80 a month for my access. Its not free.
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Yep. I pay $77.45 a month for I think 50 mbs service. I get over 80 mbs and 6 mbs.

I wish the prices were lower, but I do understand the costs.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yep. I pay $77.45 a month for I think 50 mbs service. I get over 80 mbs and 6 mbs.

I wish the prices were lower, but I do understand the costs.
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Agreed. I wish my cable bill was lower too, but that being said, I don't have any reason to complain.
Its speedy enough for me, always up and running well, so its reliable, which is probably more important then just speed alone.

I'm sure there's a lot of hard working people behind the scenes to make it so, and keep it so.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yep. I pay $77.45 a month for I think 50 mbs service. I get over 80 mbs and 6 mbs.

I wish the prices were lower, but I do understand the costs.
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Well, for me, about $20 of that is taxes. And I get 100mbs, I probably spend more on coffee in a month.
 
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