Wisconsin Company To Implant Microchips In Employees

[jimbo]

IF companies start mandating that employees be chipped and you don't want to be chipped.Then it won't matter what you want,You'll either be chipped because you like financial security or be on welfare,foodstamos and section-8 housing or project housing.Or be a bum on the street begging for change.


The company in the OP story saw the "need" to implant chips in their employees and I am sure other companies will see the "need" too.



Those things are not implanted in you. You can leave those things at home or easily store them up in something that blocks tracking.

Exactly. That''s my point. No need for a chip.

So far as I understand the OP, there have been no implanted chips. This may be nothing more than an advertising stunt.

 

[radcen]

IF companies start mandating that employees be chipped and you don't want to be chipped.Then it won't matter what you want,You'll either be chipped because you like financial security or be on welfare,foodstamos and section-8 housing or project housing.Or be a bum on the street begging for change.

Self-employed. Or, employed by a small company who doesn't want to pay for that crap.

But hey, if you *want* to support me...

 

[OlNate]

You'd do ok. The "independent contractor" treatment for highly skilled science jobs is annoying, but it's not the end of the world. They also only do the intrusive **** at point of hire, because it would cost them a lot of money to do it regularly. Training costs also warrant a degree of job security. It's not so bad.

I have a subscription, man... I don't think I'd get my meds there anyway, but if I did, these tests would be problematic for me, and result in me probably being required to divulge the condition being treated by it, a further invasion of my privacy.

I recognize that for certain jobs you probably don't want someone who could potentially harm themselves because they are using at work...but I know software developers that had to pass a piss test... Seems a little redundant, as I think if they were using at work their work would suffer, and they'd get fired for that.

 

[rocket88]

Are you aware that the word "offer" is not the same as "require"? They are offering it.

And why do libertarians and conservatives so fear technology?

I agree with them on this one. It's kind of horrifying when you think about it.

 

[ludin]

Nobody forces anyone to drug tests either but good luck finding someone to employ you that does not require you to voluntarily agree to being tested. The concern being raised is not an unfounded one.

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There is a difference between the two of them.
Drug tests involve safety of the people around you.

Microchips do not.

 

[Lovebug]

I posted this in CT because I thought it'd get more interest here. Why does a company involved in selling potato chips and bagged peanuts need to microchip their employees? We're living in bizarre times.

They aren't doing it to sell more potato chips, but are trying to keep up with the ever evolving technology.

The company designs software for break room markets that are commonly found in office complexes.

Of course, like everything else in this world...including potato and microchips...misuse/abuse is possible.

 

[Lovebug]

Gimme a break Red. You're a complete cynic, yet you trust microchips being placed under your skin, that can monitor and track you? Why?

The chip is meant as a convenience, to pay and get access. Lets face it, we live in an every changing society. We use credit cards that can be used to track our habits, we use cellphone bank and pay apps. Cars are smarter then some people now. I can google an address and look at the neighborhood at my convenience. This is the next step.

 

[radcen]

There is a difference between the two of them.
Drug tests involve safety of the people around you.

Microchips do not.

Not necessarily. Not if you site at a desk all day and bang away on a keyboard.

 

[Lovebug]

Not necessarily. Not if you site at a desk all day and bang away on a keyboard.

Depends. If that is someone who puts in important data for me, I want them to run on all cylinders.

 

[ludin]

Not necessarily. Not if you site at a desk all day and bang away on a keyboard.

you messing something up on that computer hurts someone else as well and it hurts your company.
companies what their people at 100%. taking drugs you are never at 100%.

 

[ludin]

The chip is meant as a convenience, to pay and get access. Lets face it, we live in an every changing society. We use credit cards that can be used to track our habits, we use cellphone bank and pay apps. Cars are smarter then some people now. I can google an address and look at the neighborhood at my convenience. This is the next step.

it might be the next step for some people but not for me.

 

[radcen]

Depends. If that is someone who puts in important data for me, I want them to run on all cylinders.

Data entry errors do not necessarily equate to unsafe.

 

[radcen]

you messing something up on that computer hurts someone else as well and it hurts your company.
companies what their people at 100%. taking drugs you are never at 100%.

So could any number of things. I guess we should have mandatory competency tests every morning, and if you're having an off day for any reason, you get sent home.

An incomplete list of reasons why one may not be 100% on a given day...

- Bad back, didn't sleep well
- Sick baby, up all night
- Recent relationship break-up, emotionally devastated
- Mother/father just diagnosed with terminal illness

...the list can go on.

 

[ludin]

So could any number of things. I guess we should have mandatory competency tests every morning, and if you're having an off day for any reason, you get sent home.

An incomplete list of reasons why one may not be 100% on a given day...

- Bad back, didn't sleep well
- Sick baby, up all night
- Recent relationship break-up, emotionally devastated
- Mother/father just diagnosed with terminal illness

...the list can go on.

if you can't be honest there is no reason to continue discussing this with you.
the fact is that drug abuse has huge impacts on the safety and performance of a companies workers.

a microchip does not. they are completely separate things and the fact you still don't understand this prove you either don't want to
or are just being obtuse.

 

[radcen]

if you can't be honest there is no reason to continue discussing this with you.
the fact is that drug abuse has huge impacts on the safety and performance of a companies workers.

a microchip does not. they are completely separate things and the fact you still don't understand this prove you either don't want to
or are just being obtuse.

Ok... In other words, you have absolutely nowhere to go with my point that there are many things that can cause a person to "not be 100%" on any given day, so you resort to a lame accusal of dishonesty. Wow.

 

[mike2810]

Data entry errors do not necessarily equate to unsafe.

I agree with your statement. However the opposite can also be true. Data entry errors do not necessarily equate to a safe environment.

So what were you trying to prove with your statement?

 

[radcen]

I agree with your statement. However the opposite can also be true. Data entry errors do not necessarily equate to a safe environment.

So what were you trying to prove with your statement?

That safety isn't necessarily achieved with a drug test. Not every job has a literal physical safety aspect to it. Hence, if that's the rationale for having a drug test, the rationale isn't always logical or applicable.

Bus driver? You bet. Mechanic? Sure. Date entry? Most likely not.

 

[mike2810]

That safety isn't necessarily achieved with a drug test. Not every job has a literal physical safety aspect to it. Hence, if that's the rationale for having a drug test, the rationale isn't always logical or applicable.

Bus driver? You bet. Mechanic? Sure. Date entry? Most likely not.

Ever heard of a post office person going "postal"? They were just processing mail. A persons job does not in itself determine if they can become violent or not in the workplace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_postal_killings

 

[Lovebug]

Data entry errors do not necessarily equate to unsafe.

Depends on the data. You can sit at a desk directing flights or redirecting ambulances.

 

[jamesrage]

Exactly. That''s my point. No need for a chip.

So far as I understand the OP, there have been no implanted chips. This may be nothing more than an advertising stunt.

I am sure they will argue that since you can leave those things at home then they can be stolen or lost. One of the main reasons of the chip implant is that it can't be lost or stolen.

 

[jimbo]

I am sure they will argue that since you can leave those things at home then they can be stolen or lost. One of the main reasons of the chip implant is that it can't be lost or stolen.

Works for dogs and possibly small kids. The rest of us try to be more responsible.

 

[radcen]

Depends on the data. You can sit at a desk directing flights or redirecting ambulances.

"Depends on..." confirms my point. Not necessarily, or not automatically, a safety hazard.

 

[radcen]

Ever heard of a post office person going "postal"? They were just processing mail. A persons job does not in itself determine if they can become violent or not in the workplace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_postal_killings

Yep. These are the more extreme situations, of course, but this confirms my point to the other poster... one can be "off" on a given day or for a period of time without being under the influence at all.

 

[RAMOSS]

I posted this in CT because I thought it'd get more interest here. Why does a company involved in selling potato chips and bagged peanuts need to microchip their employees? We're living in bizarre times.

Of course the company reps have said there'll be no GPS monitoring of employees, but nearly every technological breakthrough is exploited for tracking purposes. Just ask Edward Snowden.

You phone is tracking you. Your apps have permission to record you. And now some companies want to microchip you. Where is this coming from? CIA? NSA?
What's your opinion.

From what I see, the motivation is

The company designs software for break room markets that are commonly found in office complexes.

Me, I wouldn't do it .. invasion of privacy.

 

[jamesrage]

Works for dogs and possibly small kids. The rest of us try to be more responsible.

I am sure they tried that with drug tests. They claimed that most people are responsible adults who don't do recreational drugs(including alcohol) or that if they do don't do recreational drugs before and during work.And now because of those who rather have a job than stand by principals almost every employer either drugs tests their employees before employment or that the employees may be subjected to drug tests. It will be that way with the chip is laws are not implemented to prevent this from spreading to every employer. You may think good luck finding someone else to that job, I'm not being implanted with a chip. But like I said in a earlier post your options with either be let yourself be injected with a chip by your employer because you like financial security and have people to support or become a mooch off the state.And by then it will be too late to change the laws.