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William Barr says ‘communities’ that protest cops could lose ‘the police protection they need’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/04/william-barr-police-protests-communities-race/



So does that mean that people in communities that, using the most American right of protesting what they don't think is fair, lose police protection or does that mean the entire community, including single moms who are sitting at home minding their own business, lose police protection too.

Remember, Barr is our country's top cop. I'm curious how the top cop in each community now handles his comments.

If you were a cop, how do you imagine you would handle the people in your community calling you the enemy and urging people to disresepct and assault you verbally and physically and to resist your authority and teaching their kids that you are a Nazi?
 
I pray for sinners to repent of their sins and seek God's forgiveness, including Trump. You sound as though you think democrat politicians are not sinners.

You need to pray harder. Your boy is bribing people with your money.
 
If you were a cop, how do you imagine you would handle the people in your community calling you the enemy and urging people to disresepct and assault you verbally and physically and to resist your authority and teaching their kids that you are a Nazi?

If you were part of a group that the police hurt more frequently than other groups, in similar situations, would you have the guts to protest or would you stay at home and let your group's kids be harmed.

I believe a ton of Republicans would stay home. Not enough courage.
 
You need to pray harder. Your boy is bribing people with your money.

Even after Poroshenko fired Shokin at Biden's demand, Joe Dirt-bag Biden then placed other demands on the US aid. What a low down dirty jerk. He not only screwed over girls and women he also abused heads of state.
 
Even after Poroshenko fired Shokin at Biden's demand, Joe Dirt-bag Biden then placed other demands on the US aid. What a low down dirty jerk. He not only screwed over girls and women he also abused heads of state.

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First, protesting is a First Amendment right.

Second, by withdrawing all police protection from a community Barr is A) imposing Federal authority on a State matter and B) punishing the 90%+ of the community who are completely innocent and were not protesting.

Again, this move by Barr is strictly authoritarian: "Do as we say or else!"

What's next? Trump considers the "lies" on social media to be a national threat and orders Barr to nationalize social media?

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Strange, seeing as Barr's not actually doing that and those anti-police protest were in fact calling for the death of uniformed officers.

I'm starting to think you're not fully educated on the subject.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/04/william-barr-police-protests-communities-race/



So does that mean that people in communities that, using the most American right of protesting what they don't think is fair, lose police protection or does that mean the entire community, including single moms who are sitting at home minding their own business, lose police protection too.

Remember, Barr is our country's top cop. I'm curious how the top cop in each community now handles his comments.

I understand the sentiment that people who hate cops so much are incredibly hypocritical when they call them for help.

I don't agree with the statement but I don't think that's why this statement was made.
 
First, protesting is a First Amendment right.

Second, by withdrawing all police protection from a community Barr is A) imposing Federal authority on a State matter and B) punishing the 90%+ of the community who are completely innocent and were not protesting.

Again, this move by Barr is strictly authoritarian: "Do as we say or else!"

What's next? Trump considers the "lies" on social media to be a national threat and orders Barr to nationalize social media?

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Is he proposing doing anything, or is he just suggesting it to toy with you? I think it's the latter.

I don't think listening to the people that are the reason there is police in the first place while ignoring the people that need the police, who are not out throwing a temper tantrum (protesting).

It doesn't make sense and the top law enforcement official in the country knows this.

He's likely just Trumping. Decided it needed to be a verb for saying things just to get a rise out of people.
 
I understand the sentiment that people who hate cops so much are incredibly hypocritical when they call them for help.

I don't agree with the statement but I don't think that's why this statement was made.

would you protest against cops if kids in your own group were hurt, in similar situations, than other groups by police.

my theory is that a lot of Republican parents wouldn't have the courage to do so.
 
Is he proposing doing anything, or is he just suggesting it to toy with you? I think it's the latter.

I don't think listening to the people that are the reason there is police in the first place while ignoring the people that need the police, who are not out throwing a temper tantrum (protesting).

It doesn't make sense and the top law enforcement official in the country knows this.

He's likely just Trumping. Decided it needed to be a verb for saying things just to get a rise out of people.
Proposing unless you think he’s toying with a roomful of LEOs. Do you think Barr was just BSing them?

I’m fully supportive of First Responder services. Still, if they are doing something wrong then Americans have a right to protest those wrongful actions.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/04/william-barr-police-protests-communities-race/



So does that mean that people in communities that, using the most American right of protesting what they don't think is fair, lose police protection or does that mean the entire community, including single moms who are sitting at home minding their own business, lose police protection too.

Remember, Barr is our country's top cop. I'm curious how the top cop in each community now handles his comments.
That is what he’s saying:

"But I think today the American people have to focus on something else, which is the sacrifice and the service that is given by our law enforcement officers. And they have to start showing, more than they do, the respect and support that law enforcement deserves. And if communities don't give that support and respect, they might find themselves without the police protection they need."
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/04/william-barr-police-protests-communities-race/



So does that mean that people in communities that, using the most American right of protesting what they don't think is fair, lose police protection or does that mean the entire community, including single moms who are sitting at home minding their own business, lose police protection too.

Remember, Barr is our country's top cop. I'm curious how the top cop in each community now handles his comments.

Wanna Be.... Authoritarian Dictatorships... led by "Men who want to be Tyrants" ---


Sadly, America has seen it all before... for more than 243 yrs of a segment of society groomed in racist agenda and that was then followed up with Cops being used to promote and enforce Segregation for 100 yrs, and sadly some jurisdiction still have cops that live by the old system of segregationist policing ideals.... that do unfair policing with race and ethnicity bias and bias in how they deal with the working poor and dire poor.
(I'm not saying that within poverty sectors that some people are not guilt of crimes, I'm saying ... apprehending criminals should not have any race or ethnicity agenda, only an agenda of "Law Enforcement".... they are not to act like "street level judges and juries, via the acts of excessive violence, and use of excessive force... their job is to "apprehend"... not to beat, brutalize and kill at will and want... their job is to "Apprehend'... Use the radio and call for back up, don't just reach for the pistol and start shooting, and don't go into trying to "beat people" as if they are some jury that issues a verdict of "beat and brutalize".

They can minimize the quick claim of self defense clause in many situation, by calling for "backup"... before they go into physical confrontation with people.

Slowly, but Surely; We as a society are exposing those type of police persons and they are being removed from the police forces across this nation.

If they can apprehend a vile criminal who went into a movie theatre and shoot up a mass of people and come out dressed in military gear and Bp Vest with a gun and they did not kill him... then they certainly don't have the justification to pull their guns and shoot "unarmed persons".

NO More of Police engaging a "Shoot First and Lie Afterwards"..... We've seen far too much of that over the long history in America.

Maybe we need to develop a program where Police after completing the Academy, have to work with a veteran where they don't as a new entrant get to carry a gun, for the first year (it can be accessible to them). Then maybe they won't be so aggressive and develop such aggressive tendencies... their job is to "call for back up"... when a situation looks to pose potential violent encounters. They only get to use a gun, in an extreme situations , when the senior officer, gives it to them if he determines there is need for him to provide armed assistance.

(They have enough trained and experienced people on the force to figure out how to improve their methodology)

They may then be more careful in how they engage the processes of Apprehension, As senior officers they should be able to discern when situation call for such type of support.

The average criminal... yes, I mean "average'... know when they are outnumbered.... So... if we use resources in such a manner... rather than default to deadly force... We can improve much!!!

I would say we should "review training models".... and see what areas of policing we can improve...
 
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That is what he’s saying:

"But I think today the American people have to focus on something else, which is the sacrifice and the service that is given by our law enforcement officers. And they have to start showing, more than they do, the respect and support that law enforcement deserves. And if communities don't give that support and respect, they might find themselves without the police protection they need."

yeah, we know.

it's the perfect wink to Trump voters. gotta give him credit for that.
 
If you were part of a group that the police hurt more frequently than other groups, in similar situations, would you have the guts to protest or would you stay at home and let your group's kids be harmed.

I believe a ton of Republicans would stay home. Not enough courage.


I would raise support for efforts to find and implement NEW value systems that would replace our culture's values which threaten our people and our community and our culture and our neighbors and our law enforcement officers.

But the impulsive, short sighted, emotionally driven, uninformed, ill educated and media manipulated quasi revolutionaries who lack role models and responsible leadership respond in the way that you defend.

The idea of the Police failing to enforce the law is not an option.

If there is to be a change it has to start somewhere.

If the Police are willing to show more compassion in their policing, how does that make the community start getting their stuff together?


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I would raise support for efforts to find and implement NEW value systems that would replace our culture's values which threaten our people and our community and our culture and our neighbors and our law enforcement officers...

but you wouldn't have the courage to protest if members of your group, like kids and such, continued to be hurt by police at a higher rate under similar situations than people in other groups, correct?
 
Another implied threat from the trump administration, do as we say or you'll pay the price. Sorta' sounds like the ukraine call doesn't it?
 
Wanna Be.... Authoritarian Dictatorships... led by "Men who want to be Tyrants" ---

...

I would say we should "review training models".... and see what areas of policing we can improve...

I say you should examine the wealth of research and stats which dispel popular but incorrect belief such as those you display in your post.

The Anti-Police Culture


By*JACK DUNPHY

August 1, 2016 5:00 AM

The War on Cops: How the New Attack on Law and Order Makes Everyone Less Safe, by Heather Mac Donald (Encounter, 248 pp., $23.99)

In 1990, 2,245 people were murdered in New York City, the most ever. In Los Angeles, the high-water mark for homicide came in 1992, when 1,092 people were killed. In the years since, those grim numbers fell steadily in both cities, reflecting a national drop in violent crime. In 2014, New York saw 333 murders; in Los Angeles, the number was 260. In those two cities alone, thousands of people are alive today who would not be if not for the advances in policing methods that came into practice in the early 1990s. This is to say nothing of the thousands upon thousands of additional people who would have been robbed, assaulted, or otherwise victimized if crime rates had remained constant at their appalling early-1990s numbers. No writer has expended more energy in chronicling how those remarkable gains were achieved than Heather Mac Donald. And no writer is more dismayed at seeing those gains being undone.



And the evidence, Mac Donald tells us, is that America’s police officers have of late been slandered in a deliberate campaign of misinformation and dishonest interpretation of data, perhaps the most pernicious example of which is, as in President Obama’s remarks noted above, the assertion that blacks are unfairly targeted by racist police officers and unjustly funneled through the justice system by equally racist (or at least indifferent) prosecutors and judges. She cites a 1997 study by criminologists Robert Sampson and Janet Lauritsen, who reviewed “massive literature on charging and sentencing” and reached a conclusion that was surely discomfiting to those searching for a biased system. The researchers concluded that “large racial differences in criminal offending,” not racism, explained why more blacks were imprisoned proportionately than whites, and for longer terms. Study after study has confirmed these findings, says Mac Donald, yet “this consensus hasn’t made the slightest dent in the ongoing search for systemic racism.”

Heather MacDonald's "The War on Cops" | National Review
 
Another implied threat from the trump administration, do as we say or you'll pay the price. Sorta' sounds like the ukraine call doesn't it?

You are wrong and you know it.
 
The blatant racism inherent in this is just WOW. Looks like Trump is trying to get his base energized for the impeachment hearings.

As long as cops are disrespected to the point of being physically attacked, the removal of cops is justified, IMO.
 
Another implied threat from the trump administration, do as we say or you'll pay the price. Sorta' sounds like the ukraine call doesn't it?

Grammar police I am. The correct term is, actually, inferred threat (your inference) from the Trump administration: do as we say or you'll pay the price.
 
Proposing unless you think he’s toying with a roomful of LEOs. Do you think Barr was just BSing them?
No. I don't think the room full of fun forsmann officers were the target for that comment even though he was in the room talking to them I think people like you were.
I’m fully supportive of First Responder services. Still, if they are doing something wrong then Americans have a right to protest those wrongful actions.
Yes people have the right to throw fits. But fit throwing isn't the same thing as protesting people don't know how to do that anymore.
 
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