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Will Trump incompetence be linked to the devastating Texas flood?

Lest we forget how Trump incompetence was on full display during his first term with respect to Covid and the multitude of unnecessary deaths that resulted.
Time will tell if Trump's reckless budget cuts played a part in this tragedy as well.
It goes without saying that Trump and his disgusting MAGA base will likely try to blame this on former President Biden.
Yes, time will tell.
Of course, the drastic cuts to NOAA, FEMA, and NWS will most certainly cost lives and treasure in the future.
It makes zero sense to make those cuts.
 
You've just admitted that additional manning may have helped.
Yes, it is terrible. And it's disingenuous to ignore that DOGE gleefully gutted NOAA and the NWS (remember the chain saw?) and "coincidentally" we ended up with a horrific weather tragedy.
Of couse, it may have. Then again, in my opinion I don’t believe it would have made any difference in the outcome. I presented my reasons.

You believe differently. That's fine.
 
What could the Federal government have done with more people that it was supposed to do that contributed to this flood or the damage it caused?

I don't put a lot of stock in search results with AI tools, and I don't use them as sources. I don't know who set the parameters of the search they use or the criteria and script for the answer they present.

No, they don't. Your source says, "Texas officials pointed fingers at the National Weather Service, which they said issued forecasts earlier in the week downplaying the impending storm and its severity." IOW, "Local Texas Officials" don't complain that there weren't enough warnings, but that the warnings all week long weren't accurate enough.

And your source goes on:
"But in a statement to NBC News, the NWS said it was “heartbroken by the tragic loss of life in Kerr County,” and added it had issued flash flood warnings the night of July 3 and then again the morning of July 4.

Tom Fahy, legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, said local NWS were adequately staffed and “issued timely forecasts and warnings leading up to the storm.”

That's the Union, BTW.

When there's a credible cause and effect relationship. (At a minimum, when a cited, credible source shows such a relationship and not when the source works against it.)
Damn, you're good.
 
Of couse, it may have. Then again, in my opinion I don’t believe it would have made any difference in the outcome. I presented my reasons.

You believe differently. That's fine.

🤣

We are judging, and responding to your "beliefs." Your beliefs are bad, and the beliefs of a bad person.
 
The point is that it's on fire. I see you haven't heard. Now you know.
Of course it's on fire. It's summer, it's hot brush is dry. Happens every year.
Do you always imagine dumb questions?
No, because I usually don't have to deal with "water is wet" problem statements.
When you're there, find support for your claim that they're bloated.
Even Democrats have complained about that. Clinton fired 400,000 federal employees. Obama and Biden both talked about waste and inefficiency but did nothing about it.
 
What could the Federal government have done with more people that it was supposed to do that contributed to this flood or the damage it caused?

I don't put a lot of stock in search results with AI tools, and I don't use them as sources. I don't know who set the parameters of the search they use or the criteria and script for the answer they present.

No, they don't. Your source says, "Texas officials pointed fingers at the National Weather Service, which they said issued forecasts earlier in the week downplaying the impending storm and its severity." IOW, "Local Texas Officials" don't complain that there weren't enough warnings, but that the warnings all week long weren't accurate enough.

And your source goes on:
"But in a statement to NBC News, the NWS said it was “heartbroken by the tragic loss of life in Kerr County,” and added it had issued flash flood warnings the night of July 3 and then again the morning of July 4.

Tom Fahy, legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, said local NWS were adequately staffed and “issued timely forecasts and warnings leading up to the storm.”

That's the Union, BTW.

When there's a credible cause and effect relationship. (At a minimum, when a cited, credible source shows such a relationship and not when the source works against it.)
There’s a huge body of peer-reviewed research ( I know that kind of stuff doesn't probably doesn't mean much to you, but for whatever its worth) showing that rising global temperatures are linked to increased heatwaves, more extreme rainfall, stronger hurricanes, worsening droughts, and even changes in wildfire behavior. The National Academy of Sciences, NASA, NOAA, and other scientific bodies around the world all agree on this.

It’s like saying smoking doesn’t cause a single specific case of lung cancer, but it dramatically raises your risk—and over a population, you clearly see the effects. That’s what’s happening with climate change. The trends are clear, and the models that predicted more extreme weather as the planet warms are being confirmed by what we’re seeing now. So even if we can’t say “this flood was 100% caused by climate change,” we CAN say that climate change made it more likely and more damaging. And that’s the part that matters—especially when we’re deciding how to prepare for the future.

So now on top of this, there’s actually a lot of evidence that when governments cut funding—especially to emergency services, infrastructure, and environmental programs, as has been done by DOGE—it leads to more damage when disasters do hit. It’s not just about having fewer firefighters or slower or absent FEMA responses (though that matters); it’s also about things like outdated stormwater systems that can’t handle extreme rainfall, or underfunded power grids that collapse during heatwaves or freezes, like in Texas in 2021. When we stop investing in prevention—like wildfire management, climate forecasting, or enforcing building codes in flood zones—we’re basically setting ourselves up for more loss of life and property down the road. These aren’t just theories; they’re patterns we’ve seen again and again after hurricanes, fires, floods—you name it. Cutting corners today almost always costs more tomorrow.

The only question is: how expensive and painful, in terms of both life and property, does MAGA want to make this lesson?
 
Your list doesn't matter.
ah, I see. So President wants to increase timber harvesting while reducing the federal personnel to make it happen. President Trump wants to increase Oil and Gas production from federal lands while reducing the federal personel that would set up the lease sales.


As you say, that's your opinion. We'll see.
as it was yours.
The idea that I get is that liberals are quite happy to see an inefficient bureaucracy sucking up taxpayer money, especially if the bureaucrats vote Democrat.
I find it interesting the fall back rebuttal is something about liberals.. Here is a clue. I am not a liberal. Was a Republican for decades till I became Independent in the last 5 years.

So, explain to me how President Trump can increase timber sales with less personnel. Explain to me how more oil and gas sales can be done with reduced staffing?

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As far as the OP. imo, President Trump's "incompetence had nothing to do with the Texas flood.
 
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The only question is: how expensive and painful, in terms of both life and property, does MAGA want to make this lesson?
No, the question is whether the Federal government did something it shouldn't have done, or failed to do something it should have, that caused the damage and loss of life in the floods on Texas on Friday.
 
ah, I see. So President wants to increase timber harvesting while reducing the federal personnel to make it happen. President Trump wants to increase Oil and Gas production from federal lands while reducing the federal personel that would set up the lease sales.
Has the government been reduced to the point that it can't do what is needed to make the goals for those two things happen?
I find it interesting the fall back rebuttal is something about liberals.
The name of the site is "Political Debate." If one takes the positions that liberals take, one is likely to be suspected of being a liberal (small "l").
So, explain to me how President Trump can increase timber sales with less personnel.
He can, (1) change the way that timber sales are made, or (2) retain only the number of people required to get the job done.
Explain to me how more oil and gas sales can be done with reduced staffing?
He can, (1) change the way that oil and gas sales are made, or (2) retain only the number of people required to get the job done.
 
Has the government been reduced to the point that it can't do what is needed to make the goals for those two things happen?
Why answer my question with a question. Show that the increased sales can be done.
The name of the site is "Political Debate." If one takes the positions that liberals take, one is likely to be suspected of being a liberal (small "l").
funny. then you seem to be saying without saying that all republicans and conservatives agree 100% of the time on all issues. There is never a difference of opinion. Is that right?
He can, (1) change the way that timber sales are made, or (2) retain only the number of people required to get the job done.
actually, the President would have to get members of Congress to change the laws first.
That is the problem with the DOGE approach. They did not do a programmatic review of programs. They started off by trying to be laying off "probationary" employees with no consideration of work the President wants done.
He can, (1) change the way that oil and gas sales are made, or (2) retain only the number of people required to get the job done.
again. The President would have to get Congress to change the federal laws. Some things cannot not be done by EO's. As much as President Trump would like to be able to make it so.
 
Why answer my question with a question. Show that the increased sales can be done.
OK. The Government can change the computer application that's used to make sales in such a way that the process is largely automated and tied into the relevant databases of other agencies as required to insure integrity if the sale. Or, if the Government realizes that fewer people are required to make an additional number of sales because the agents involved are wasting time, people can be dismissed. Either solution addresses your question as to how additional sales can be done with fewer people.
funny. then you seem to be saying without saying that all republicans and conservatives agree 100% of the time on all issues. There is never a difference of opinion. Is that right?
Nope.
actually, the President would have to get members of Congress to change the laws first.
Nope. Revising a bookkeeping procedure doesn't require Congressional action.
Some things cannot not be done by EO's. As much as President Trump would like to be able to make it so.
For the items you questioned, no E.O. would be necessary. Now, if we change your question to say that the President wants to sell more timber (or gas and oil) than is allowed under current law, and do it with fewer people, he would have to get Congress to raise the sales limit (although that's probably controlled by regulation that can be changed by the Cabinet Department involved).
 
Dismissing climate change doesnt help prepare us for future catastrophes.
 

Trump says he plans to phase out FEMA after 2025 ...​

CNN reports, "At least 80 people have died in connection with the flash floods that struck central Texas early Friday, according to officials. The toll includes at least 28 children in Kerr County, where 10 girls and one counselor from Camp Mystic are still unaccounted for, authorities said."

There was no warning!

The Times reports, "
"A newly released budget document reveals that the Trump administration is proposing to eliminate nearly all federal climate research conducted by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). According to Axios, the administration's plan would entirely defund NOAA’s Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR), the agency’s primary hub for climate science coordination and research."
 
But Biden!
Knowing that you wouldn't want to mislead anyone, I thought I'd add the rest of what Trump actually said.
"Trump: That water situation that all is and that was really the Biden setup. That was not our setup. But I wouldn't blame Biden for it either."
 
ICE Barbie says not Trump's fault.


When did she dye her hair?

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Ugg...
She gives all us Barbies a bad name.
 
"Its a 100 year catastrophe" seems dangerously naive.
 
What's good for the goose you know?
 
She gives all us Barbies a bad name.
Actually, Barbies are safe. It's the Daily Beast that gets a bad name. According to TIME magazine;
"On Thursday, the (National Weather Service) office issued a broad flood watch for parts of south-central Texas, including Kerr County, though the most severe warnings started when the NWS issued a “life-threatening flash flooding” warning in Kerrville at 1:14 a.m. local time on Friday. The alert triggered the Emergency Alert System, which would have sounded the alarm on cell phones throughout the area, providing people had service and had not turned off their emergency alerts. The alert was issued roughly three hours before the first reports of flooding came in.".
 
Knowing that you wouldn't want to mislead anyone, I thought I'd add the rest of what Trump actually said.
"Trump: That water situation that all is and that was really the Biden setup. That was not our setup. But I wouldn't blame Biden for it either."

He can't even get a straight sentence out anymore.

Still knows how to **** up a country, though. Maybe that's the last thing to go?
 
Knowing that you wouldn't want to mislead anyone, I thought I'd add the rest of what Trump actually said.
"Trump: That water situation that all is and that was really the Biden setup. That was not our setup. But I wouldn't blame Biden for it either."

You believe that changes him blaming Biden, by adding he wasn't blaming Bidien while doing so?
 
Lest we forget how Trump incompetence was on full display during his first term with respect to Covid and the multitude of unnecessary deaths that resulted.
Time will tell if Trump's reckless budget cuts played a part in this tragedy as well.
It goes without saying that Trump and his disgusting MAGA base will likely try to blame this on former President Biden.
He blamed Biden. It was a landslide with 1.62% of Americans making him POTUS.
 
Knowing that you wouldn't want to mislead anyone, I thought I'd add the rest of what Trump actually said.
"Trump: That water situation that all is and that was really the Biden setup. That was not our setup. But I wouldn't blame Biden for it either."
He went on to claim it was a "100 year flood" The Guadaloupe river flooded in 1936, 52, 72, 73, 78, 87, 91, and 1997.

Or was he blaming Coolidge, who was POTUS 100 years ago?
 
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