Will The Left Run Up The White Flag

[Checkerboard Strangler]

:lamo

I forgot how out of it you are.

Literally photographic proof of their racist temper tantrums, and you still pretend they don't exist.

Nice job.

Photographic? I shot something like 120 hours of video between 2009 and 2011.

 

[PLizzy]

Photographic? I shot something like 120 hours of video between 2009 and 2011.

I can only imagine how many times ropes and apes were allude to.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I can only imagine how many times ropes and apes were allude to.

Shot for MoveOn, HuffPost, you name it...about five or six online outfits and a fair amount of it also got syndicated to the news media as well.
I thought about getting back into it again but ever since Charlottesville I've been thinking about my physical well being and I decided to pass.

 

[Grokmaster]

They'll suck it up and move on.

Meanwhile, if the Democrats don't at least take the house, there will be riots and violence like we haven't seen since the '60s.

Good bet, and escalating violence on GOP reps, senators staffers, etc.

 

[Grokmaster]

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Now...show us all the Tea Party RIOTS...

 

[DH Kirkwood]

I'm in it for the long-haul. I was discouraged to the point of not intending on giving a **** right before the last presidential election. I'm ashamed to admit that, and I'm committed to being a very old man yelling at kids to go out and vote, if need be.

 

[DH Kirkwood]

If that happens, I won't be angry at Democratic politicians, I'll be livid and disgusted with Democratic voters.

OTOH: how will they right-wing react to there being no red wave? Not good.

That's completely ass-backwards. You do realize that most people aren't spending their free-time on a political message-board, crossing-swords (Snnrrk) with Republicans, right? No, most people tune out politics, and are focused on working, family, and the minutiae of life. The people's representation has utterly failed them, and understandably, much of the public has been jaded for at least far back as I remember.

Within my 'circle', those friends and family that I know well, I'm easily one of the most, if not the most invested in politics, only challenged in that regard by my twin brother. This has caused no shortage of friction, and has probably damaged some of my personal relationships. Add in the massive information-overload that we've been afflicted with, and it's no wonder why regular, sane folks simply check out.

It is the candidate's burden to excite these people, to give them a reason to believe that they are fighting for them. It's the politician's job to cut through the bull**** and give the average Joe a reason to believe that going to vote is important, and will substantively improve their lives. Until a party steps up to the plate and boldly offers real change without beating around the bush, then voter-turnout will always be weak.

 

[Harshaw]

:lamo

I forgot how out of it you are.

Literally photographic proof of their racist temper tantrums, and you still pretend they don't exist.

Nice job.

Your motivated interpretation of a couple of photos doesn't make things the way you wish they were. Did you even notice that the "Tea Party Comix" thing, whatever that is, isn't actually part of the photo, and was inserted in over a bunch of signs about economic issues? No, you probably thought it was a sign they were carrying, even though it obviously isn't.

There were no riots. There was no violence, save for a couple of isolated incidents. No one set anything on fire, smashed any windows, tried to topple any statues, climbed up on statues, pounded on chamber doors demanding to be let in, screamed in the Senate chambers, overturned any cars, blocked any traffic, especially on Interstates. There were no masked "black flag" crews running about causing violence and then disappearing into a crowd willing to give them cover. There were hardly any arrests, certainly nothing compared to the mass arrests associated with comparable Lefty protests.

Heck, this guy takes it as evidence that the police were in on the Tea Party:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davese...-party-never-got-pepper-sprayed/#2b2d8a666c2f

Besides, they were protesting policy, not the results of elections. They never tried to undo elections. They never suggested that whole institutions be altered or abolished (the Electoral College, the Supreme Court, the Senate) simply because they didn't get their way through legitimate channels.

There's simply no comparison.

 

[Harshaw]

Now...show us all the Tea Party RIOTS...

Yeah, Checky and Moving tried that bit of sleight-of-hand, a switch from "riots" to "racist." Even though most of what was in their photos isn't even actually racist.

 

[Moderate Right]

If the Dems don't win the house then voting will be over. Trump will be president for life. I know you will laugh at that but someone has to keep Trump in check. GOP is not doing it.

Why should the GOP keep Trump in check? And, yes, I am laughing at your suggestion that Trump will appoint himself Czar of the US.

 

[akyron]

If the Dems don't win the house then voting will be over. Trump will be president for life. I know you will laugh at that but someone has to keep Trump in check. GOP is not doing it.

Nah. Peaceful transition of power is a tradition that only democrats oppose today.

 

[Moderate Right]

If that happens, I won't be angry at Democratic politicians, I'll be livid and disgusted with Democratic voters.

OTOH: how will they right-wing react to there being no red wave? Not good.

It is basically historical proof that the minority party usually always wins in the midterms so that would actually be the expected outcome. Even if Democrats fail to win the House, they are bound to make overall gains there, although they will probably actually lose some ground in the Senate. In 2010 there was a red tsunami which wiped out over 1000 Democrats over the span of a few years. This so called blue wave in 2018 is going to be more like a blue trickle toddlers could wade in, even if they do manage to take the House. The blue wave probably won't even reach 100 victims, compared to the over 1000 victims from the red tsunami.

 

[Ikari]

if they don't win the House? I mean how demoralizing would that be? Just when they don't think they could lose any more. What if they did? Another two years of Republican control. We know Trump isn't going anywhere. We know that the Senate isn't going anywhere. Then we could even have yet another opening on the Supreme Court, almost for sure if Trump wins in 2020. Oops, that means maybe the left still haven't hit rock bottom yet.

Win or lose, things will continue mostly as they are now, except both sides will likely just increase the vitriol and divisions. I'm not sure the Democrats had learned their lesson from 2016, we'll see if they can put anything together in November. But I've said for awhile that they have a great opportunity to make significant gains if they are smart and play their hand right. They haven't, on whole, shown much of a penchant for being smart about it, however.

But no one on either side is really concerned with fixing the divide or uniting the country, so we're just going to turn the crank again regardless of who wins.

 

[Moderate Right]

Do you think I care what you think?

Because I really don't.

I do.

 

[Moderate Right]

When you know it's only because the elections are rigged it's not really demoralizing it's infuriating. Imagine if a large majority of Americans were voting Republican in almost every election, but Democrats still got to control all three branches of government due to gerrymandering, 2 senators per state, the electoral college and voter suppression? How do you think gun crazy white guys would handle that?

LOL. Hillary and the DNC rigged the primary election against Bernie! And, they are the ones who tried rigging the election against Trump with the Dossier BS.

 

[1751Texan]

if they don't win the House? I mean how demoralizing would that be? Just when they don't think they could lose any more. What if they did? Another two years of Republican control. We know Trump isn't going anywhere. We know that the Senate isn't going anywhere. Then we could even have yet another opening on the Supreme Court, almost for sure if Trump wins in 2020. Oops, that means maybe the left still haven't hit rock bottom yet.

The better question is what happens if the GOP looses the Senate?

 

[Moderate Right]

Ummm... When the majority of voters support your candidate you actually are supposed to be entitled to win. That's how democracies are supposed to work.

LOL. Our democracy has booted out over 1000 Democrats over the last several years, giving Republicans control of the presidency, the Senate, and the House. And, if you look at the map, 2/3 of the US states are red! That's democracy.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Do you think I care what you think?

Because I really don't.

The existence of this post disproves the content of this post.

If you really didn't care what he thought, you wouldn't be taking the time to let him know it.

 

[Moderate Right]

If we don't win at least the House...if we lose in both chambers, we have NOBODY to blame except ourselves.
I am all for taking responsibility on stuff like this and this election is very much ours to win or lose, but it's up to us the voters, to do our duty.

Laughing? No, I take it seriously, it's no laughing matter.
I love my country.

That's the trouble with both parties. They think that every time they lose it is because their side stayed home and didn't vote. Independents are deciding more and more elections, not one side's base. The bases cancel each other out and the middle decides the elections. If you want to win, you have to appeal to the middle.

 

[Moderate Right]

And all of the top national D leadership have to be shown the door....FINALLY.....Can we agree on that?

And replace them with who? The left want to kick out the party of the white senior citizens and replace them with strong progressives who are lefty extremists. As much as I hate both Schumer and Pelosi, this would be even worse.

 

[Moderate Right]

:lamo

I forgot how out of it you are.

Literally photographic proof of their racist temper tantrums, and you still pretend they don't exist.

Nice job.

A piece of paper is a piece of paper is a piece of paper.

 

[Moderate Right]

Shot for MoveOn, HuffPost, you name it...about five or six online outfits and a fair amount of it also got syndicated to the news media as well.
I thought about getting back into it again but ever since Charlottesville I've been thinking about my physical well being and I decided to pass.

Fact is, it is the antifa who go to these events to stir up trouble and bring weapons with them. It is the white supremacists who are far outnumbered and need police protection.

 

[Moderate Right]

That's completely ass-backwards. You do realize that most people aren't spending their free-time on a political message-board, crossing-swords (Snnrrk) with Republicans, right? No, most people tune out politics, and are focused on working, family, and the minutiae of life. The people's representation has utterly failed them, and understandably, much of the public has been jaded for at least far back as I remember.

Within my 'circle', those friends and family that I know well, I'm easily one of the most, if not the most invested in politics, only challenged in that regard by my twin brother. This has caused no shortage of friction, and has probably damaged some of my personal relationships. Add in the massive information-overload that we've been afflicted with, and it's no wonder why regular, sane folks simply check out.

It is the candidate's burden to excite these people, to give them a reason to believe that they are fighting for them. It's the politician's job to cut through the bull**** and give the average Joe a reason to believe that going to vote is important, and will substantively improve their lives. Until a party steps up to the plate and boldly offers real change without beating around the bush, then voter-turnout will always be weak.

Sounds to me like you think it is the job of the extremist whackos on both sides to motivate and brainwash the sheeple to got out and vote for what the extremists want them to vote for.

 

[Moderate Right]

Nah. Peaceful transition of power is a tradition that only democrats oppose today.

LOL. So true. There are no magical moments better than the debate where Hillary jumped all over Trump for not saying he would accept the election results and then when he won, it was Hillary and the left who would not accept the election results and still haven't to this day.

 

[Moderate Right]

The better question is what happens if the GOP looses the Senate?

LOL. Well, you know that isn't going to happen. The question remains, can Democrats take over the House or not? If I were them I would not be making any huge bets, only small bets.