Will CBS axe Colbert earlier than the pre-announced May, 2026 cancellation?

[Hip octogenarian]

Colbert has committed to saying what he really things, telling his audiences that the "gloves are off" and that CBS "made one mistake" by leaving him "alive." He committed to grinding his axe with the network during his remaining time on the air.

It got me thinking that it puts CBS in an interesting dilemma. Colbert seems to be daring them to censor him or cancel him early. Depending on how brutal he is toward his bosses, it could not only skyrocket his ratings, but completely immortalize him if he is allowed to proceed with a no-holds barred approach. However, if CBS prematurely cancels him as a result of his hardcore criticism, it would make him a martyr and still immortalize him.

What do you think CBS will do?

It is possible that this is just a big publicity stunt, like New Coke. In a few weeks CBS might give in to the pressure they knew was coming and announce that he won't be canceled after all. This just may be CBS's way of gauging public opinion so they can stand up to Trump.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

When iTunes came out there were artists who didn't want to put there music on it because kids would only listen to singles and not entire albums.

There were arguments on both sides.

The point remained though, progress was going to go forward and in that world if you wanted your money, you'd release your albums and songs on iTunes. The nature of acquisition and listening had changed.

It isn't just that you can wait, and stream the entire show the next day. It is that most people don't want to watch the entire show. There are a thousand more things competing for the attention of folks today and your very best performance with your very best writers might not net a full 60 minutes (with commercials) in the lives of most people for five days a week.

Not only does CBS know this, but advertisers know it. Plus you can find your favorite stars interview on a 2 hr podcast for more depth, vs a 10 minute segment where they also had to play "name that tune".

The world has changed.

An opportunity with talk shows is that they can be adapted to different formats thereby strengthen the interest in the streaming service and create alternativ revenue streams. For example that you can watch the entire show on the steaming service. On YouTube watch a clip with the monologue while also one or more clips for each interview. While on TikTok watch short highlights from the show. For example just the YouTube clip with the monologue there Colbert announce that the show have been cancelled have got 8 million views.

 

[ElChupacabra]

He's already out of streaming show that's getting canceled. But yes podcast is probably his future

It's not a streaming show.

Oh how the mighty have fallen

CBS, definitely. Netflix and Apple, not so much.

But going to another streaming service that's struggling?

Netflix and Apple are not struggling.

 

[Crunchtime]

He was awesome last night. Millions in the USA would love to tell the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat and pedophile to go **** himself.

Colbert has never been awesome and never been funny. He’s always been a shill. Nothing more than a sub par talking head for the progressive mess than has visions of immoral grandeur. If he represents you you’re in trouble.

 

[CLAX1911]

It's not a streaming show.

Sorry actually just searched it on her about right before I made that post yes it is.

CBS, definitely. Netflix and Apple, not so much.

Yeah Netflix and apple too.

Netflix and Apple are not struggling.

Yep all those blockbuster hits that come out of the Netflix and apple right.

 

[CLAX1911]

Colbert has never been awesome and never been funny. He’s always been a shill. Nothing more than a sub par talking head for the progressive mess than has visions of immoral grandeur. If he represents you you’re in trouble.

I liked the term NPC. Did I picture him at the Jimmys with that wojack bot face.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Sorry actually just searched it on her about right before I made that post yes it is.

It is not a streaming show. It is first aired on linear broadcast, which makes it a linear show.

Yeah Netflix and apple too.

Incorrect, but I it would be entertaining to see you try and make your case.

Yep all those blockbuster hits that come out of the Netflix and apple right.

Given your clear confusion on the state of media, my guess is you're not aware of the struggles movie studios are dealing with given the lower turnout for movies as well.

 

[CLAX1911]

It is not a streaming show.

Yes it is

It is first aired on linear broadcast, which makes it a linear show.

So it's a streaming show now.

Incorrect, but I it would be entertaining to see you try and make your case.

Too bad

Given your clear confusion on the state of media, my guess is you're not aware of the struggles movie studios are dealing with given the lower turnout for movies as well.

My confusion of the state of media well the trash they put in movie theaters absolutely sucks I think I'd rather watch paint dry at the low attendance kind of shows that.

Have you ever tried to watch Netflix originals there's some good ones but for every good one there's about 36 horrible ones.

Be honest I can't tell you anything about Apple I refuse to give that scumbag company money.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Highest rated late night talk show by a mile.

Yes, but also the highest rated late night talk show by a mile in a format that is in decline.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Yes it is

It is not for the reasons I cited, and those are based on the industry definitions.

So it's a streaming show now.

Incorrect.

Too bad

Good choice, because you would have failed.

My confusion of the state of media well the trash they put in movie theaters absolutely sucks I think I'd rather watch paint dry at the low attendance kind of shows that.

It's not just the content that's being produced though, which yet again betrays your lack of knowledge on the topic.

Have you ever tried to watch Netflix originals there's some good ones but for every good one there's about 36 horrible ones.

I have, and it is indeed a mixed bag, but I'm not sure how that substantiates the company is struggling.

Be honest I can't tell you anything about Apple I refuse to give that scumbag company money.

So why say it's struggling if you admit not knowing anything about the company? Just as an FYI, you don't have to purchase a company's products and services to know their business standing.

 

[CLAX1911]

It is not for the reasons I cited, and those are based on the industry definitions.

I saw it on for about Plus so the reasons you gave me are horseshit

Incorrect.

Horseshit

Good choice, because you would have failed.

Kind of like how you proved that a show that's on a streaming services somehow not on a streaming service.

Are you one of those flat earthers cuz you talk like one

It's not just the content that's being produced though, which yet again betrays your lack of knowledge on the topic.

Yeah it's the content being produced. If you make a whole bunch of s*** ass shows that no one likes and expect them to keep paying for the subscription if that's not going to work.

It seems like it's trick people into paying for the scripture and I hope they forget about it

I have, and it is indeed a mixed bag, but I'm not sure how that substantiates the company is struggling.

Raising prices pissing off their customers not having anything to offer

It's like silly rotten potatoes what can I make any money selling bananas don't people what rotten bananas?

So why say it's struggling if you admit not knowing anything about the company?

Because it's a streaming company. I don't know everything about it but I know that it's streaming and those are all struggling.

Just as an FYI, you don't have to purchase a company's products and services to know their business standing.

Yeah all you have to know is that they're streaming.

 

[Lursa]

When iTunes came out there were artists who didn't want to put there music on it because kids would only listen to singles and not entire albums.

There were arguments on both sides.

The point remained though, progress was going to go forward and in that world if you wanted your money, you'd release your albums and songs on iTunes. The nature of acquisition and listening had changed.

It isn't just that you can wait, and stream the entire show the next day. It is that most people don't want to watch the entire show. There are a thousand more things competing for the attention of folks today and your very best performance with your very best writers might not net a full 60 minutes (with commercials) in the lives of most people for five days a week.

Not only does CBS know this, but advertisers know it. Plus you can find your favorite stars interview on a 2 hr podcast for more depth, vs a 10 minute segment where they also had to play "name that tune".

The world has changed.

A lot of typing for not sure what point. Your last sentence was my point.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Colbert has never been awesome and never been funny. He’s always been a shill. Nothing more than a sub par talking head for the progressive mess than has visions of immoral grandeur. If he represents you you’re in trouble.

He has always been awesome and funny most of the time. Certainly a better and funnier comedian than any wingnut lunatic. Although those guys and girls on faux nooz are a joke.

 

[Lursa]

Trump isn’t a comedian, but he is a joke.

Score!

And so concise.

 

[Trumpetman]

A lot of typing for not sure what point. Your last sentence was my point.

So the world changing is "Trump gets them fired!"

No the world has changed. Trump is just piling on with the change.

 

[butterfly]

I do not watch shows like this and I am not a young man. Hard to imagine the yutes watching it. I get that my TV consumption is probably atypical but still, almost no interest from me for the late-night topical comedy, celebrity, and maybe a band show.

This genre is probably dead.

I imagine a lot of people like me stream the good parts later.

 

[Lursa]

So the world changing is "Trump gets them fired!"

No the world has changed. Trump is just piling on with the change.

Still not sure what point you are making. Also thought it was odd you didnt realize that recording and streaming allow people to watch exactly how much of a show they want to without sitting thru the stuff they dont.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I saw it on for about Plus so the reasons you gave me are horseshit

They are not, and this just indicates you don't know what you're talking about and choose to triple down on ignorance. So if you see a Harry Potter movie on a streaming platform, do you think that means it's a streaming movie?

Horseshit

See above.

Kind of like how you proved that a show that's on a streaming services somehow not on a streaming service.

Are you one of those flat earthers cuz you talk like one

That's not what I proved nor was my point, so clearly you're confused. I never said that a "show that's on a streaming services somehow not on a streaming service", but that a show created for a specific platform (broadcast, cable, streaming) is identified as such despite what subsequent platform it's viewed on. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah it's the content being produced. If you make a whole bunch of s*** ass shows that no one likes and expect them to keep paying for the subscription if that's not going to work.

It seems like it's trick people into paying for the scripture and I hope they forget about it

It isn't entirely due to that, no. What's having a larger impact is how people are consuming content and how they're doing it. One of the impacts of the pandemic was movie attendance, and that was on top of the decline that was already ongoing. Movie theater attendance has still not reached pre-pandemic highs, and that in part is due to people preferring to watch more movies at home.

Raising prices pissing off their customers not having anything to offer

It's like silly rotten potatoes what can I make any money selling bananas don't people what rotten bananas?

Do you expect prices to remain static forever?


The question is whether the value proposition is worth the expense, and given the improvement in home theater technology and changes in how people choose to watch movies, they're deciding to watch at home in larger numbers. This is not all that different to reasons cord-cutters have ditched linear TV.

Because it's a streaming company. I don't know everything about it but I know that it's streaming and those are all struggling.

Some are, other aren't. Paramount most certainly is, and largely because it has not made the same headway other streamers like HBOMax and Disney+ have. Netflix is most certainly not struggling, nor do its investors agree with your assessment.

Yeah all you have to know is that they're streaming.

This makes no sense.

 

[Trumpetman]

An opportunity with talk shows is that they can be adapted to different formats thereby strengthen the interest in the streaming service and create alternativ revenue streams. For example that you can watch the entire show on the steaming service. On YouTube watch a clip with the monologue while also one or more clips for each interview. While on TikTok watch short highlights from the show. For example just the YouTube clip with the monologue there Colbert announce that the show have been cancelled have got 8 million views.

You are right that they can take the content, cut it into clips and put it on various platforms but the content itself is dated and too disposable for the cost of it. That's just the facts. That's why it is bleeding money.

If you Paramount puts $100 million a year into a streaming property, say Ghosts which I've been enjoying recently, that property can be streamed forever in their website as original content. They can sell the rights to show it to other countries, syndication and so on. Then they can also cut it into clips, TikToks and more.

Late night shows are like MTV with music videos. I'm old enough to shake my fist at the world and scream about remembering when MTV played music. But the reason they stopped was they owned no content and playing the videos beyond commercials made them no money. The top ten countdowns and so on were cheap but one and done shows.

All late night shows are topical and largely one and done. They should be relatively cheap to do for that reason. Instead this one clearly isn't.

The world has moved on.

 

[CLAX1911]

They are not, and this just indicates you don't know what you're talking about and choose to triple down on ignorance. So if you see a Harry Potter movie on a streaming platform, do you think that means it's a streaming movie?

If I can access it on streaming it is streaming.

See above.

You too.

That's not what I proved nor was my point, so clearly you're confused. I never said that a "show that's on a streaming services somehow not on a streaming service", but that a show created for a specific platform (broadcast, cable, streaming) is identified as such despite what subsequent platform it's viewed on. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah the person who doesn't know that us shows streaming goddess reading network is a screaming show doesn't really have any place to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about I know better than you.

It isn't entirely due to that, no. What's having a larger impact is how people are consuming content and how they're doing it. One of the impacts of the pandemic was movie attendance, and that was on top of the decline that was already ongoing. Movie theater attendance has still not reached pre-pandemic highs, and that in part is due to people preferring to watch more movies at home.

No I don't think the pandemic was white movie suck it's because the writers are idiots or they're lazy and just using AI the products they make are trash did nobody wants to spend the money to go to the theater to see it.

Do you expect prices to remain static forever?

No but when you jack up the price at the content is garbage that's going to be an issue

The question is whether the value proposition is worth the expense, and given the improvement in home theater technology and changes in how people choose to watch movies, they're deciding to watch at home in larger numbers. This is not all that different to reasons cord-cutters have ditched linear TV.

No the question is whether or not people will forget about the subscription and just let it automatically pay every month.

Some are, other aren't. Paramount most certainly is, and largely because it has not made the same headway other streamers like HBOMax and Disney+ have. Netflix is most certainly not struggling, nor do its investors agree with your assessment.

Disney Plus the one that they can't give away you don't get to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about if you're saying Disney plus is the model.

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This makes no sense.

Yeah you just typing a whole bunch of trash that means nothing. Sorry you wasted your time.

 

[ElChupacabra]

If I can access it on streaming it is streaming.

No, that does not mean a show was made for streaming.

You too.

See above.

Yeah the person who doesn't know that us shows streaming goddess reading network is a screaming show doesn't really have any place to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about I know better than you.

In English please.

No I don't think the pandemic was white movie suck it's because the writers are idiots or they're lazy and just using AI the products they make are trash did nobody wants to spend the money to go to the theater to see it.

That may be your opinion, but it differs strongly from the facts in much the same way opining the sun is made of cheese does not mean it actually is.

No but when you jack up the price at the content is garbage that's going to be an issue

That is something to take up with the movie theaters, who in part are raising their prices because of the shortfall in movie theater attendance.

No the question is whether or not people will forget about the subscription and just let it automatically pay every month.

Moving goal posts now.


Ok, so what percentage of streaming subscribers fit that category versus those who intentionally retain their subsriptions?

Disney Plus the one that they can't give away you don't get to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about if you're saying Disney plus is the model.

What do you base this ridiculous notion on? I get to say you don't know what you're talking about because your responses are horribly incorrect. I never said Disney+ is the model, so now you're flailing even more.

Yeah you just typing a whole bunch of trash that means nothing. Sorry you wasted your time.

I don't consider it a waste of time challenging incorrect information. I'd say it's you who have wasted your time posting opinions based on your ignorance of the topic.

 

[CLAX1911]

No, that does not mean a show was made for streaming.

I didn't claim anything about what it's made for send like a very narrow hair to split

See above.


In English please.


That may be your opinion, but it differs strongly from the facts in much the same way opining the sun is made of cheese does not mean it actually us.

Says the guy that didn't know compared was streaming.

That is something to take up with the movie theaters, who in part are raising their prices because of the shortfall in movie theater attendance.

No it's something to take up with the movie producers they make crap nobody wants to see. Attendance drops so prices have to go up

Moving goal posts now


Ok, so what percentage of streaming subscribers fit that category versus those who intentionally retain their subsriptions?

I'm betting a good chunk of the revenue comes from that category

What do you base this ridiculous notion on?

The fact that I was offered a Disney Plus subscription for $2 a month.

I get to say you don't know what you're talking about because your responses are horribly incorrect.

No they are correct you just don't want it to be.

I never said Disney+ is the model, so now you're flailing even more.

So why use it as an example?

I don't consider it a waste of time challenging incorrect information.

Guess your time is worthless.

I'd say it's you who have wasted your time posting opinions based on your ignorance of the topic.

I won't be gaslit nice try though.

 

[Trumpetman]

Fascinating, then I guess we may need to reevaluate comedy as a whole and perhaps go back to the days where comedians just told jokes unrelated to current events.

Current events can be funny. However they have to also be real. That said they have to be done cheaply as they clearly are not very profitable.

The kernel of truth in that scenario was that there was a supposed pee tape.

The point was there was no pee tape but the comedy helped prime you to believe the accusation.

Then it becomes comedy about something that isn't true in much the same way comedians write comedy routines about all sorts of hypotheticals and things that are loosely based on their personal lives and current events.

Yes hence the kernel of truth. It doesn't have to be 100% true. If you made a joke about Trump being 150 years old and on his fifth wife who happened to be an Eastern European model that joke would land as an example. As I said most people have a drunk family member who acts out at all the family gatherings so it is relatable.

Ah, I see. So I suppose it's even more serious for statements not in the comedic context, for example claiming that a presidential incumbent was not an American citizen and his birth certificate was a fake.

Two points there. The birth certificate thing was flipped on Democrats but started against John McCain who was born in the Panama Canal zone. Second, Trump has a comedian's instincts and if I wanted to flip it and use it I would absolutely do so against someone named Barack Obama.

Applying a problematic study as a source and then double down on the silliness by claiming The Left™ have no logic and reason from a poster who has "Libtards" on his signature is a trifecta of not being a serious poster. Good job!

So now you don't trust "the science"? This just sounds like flailing from you. Too bad you were actually doing some good discussion above.

So we've gone from comedy to "conformity", which I find an interesting thing coming from anyone supporting as homogenized group as the MAGAverse where dissent is not tolerated and those who don't toe the line get excommunicated. I suppose those in it get kudos for excelling at taking orders on how to think and what to parrot.

Comedy is partially about pushing the edge of conformity. Comedy used to be edgy. The late night hosts are the opposite of that. Hence why I say they aren't engaged in comedy. It is performed as comedy but is about conformity. Most major comedians have been considered problematic or even had attempted cancelling in this age. Dave Chapell, Joe Rogan, Jerry Seinfeld and many more have complained about the speech policing.

We have the MAGAverse as a near limitless source of examples in conformity...

You've been primed to believe this and so it's not surprising you do believe it. Yet Trump has grown his coalition every single election cycle he has been in. That's a fact.

You don't seem to understand humor well at all then. Comedy doesn't always have to be based on something real, but can be completely made up. There've been comedians who make jokes about made up scenarios between fictional characters etc. and it's funny. But sure, "conformity".

Enjoy the strawman. It has to be relatable even if it didn't directly happen to the comedian.

I understand comedy quite well. I'll tell you what would have been good and cheap comedy they could have done without traveling to Russia and that would have referenced the supposed pee tape. However that would be real comedy and not an attempt to do pretend comedy in the name of conformity.

You would have the host say they've got a secret pee tape of Trump. They managed to secure it and now they can reveal it to the world. The "tape" would just be surveillance video of someone dressed as Trump peeing in all the areas one goes when they have an emergency. Trump back turned peeing in a corn field. Trump back turned peeing in an alley. Trump back turned peeing next to the wheels of his private jet and so on.

It's relatable because most people have had a pee emergency and in this day and age security cameras probably catch a lot of it.

But the "joke" from Colbert wasn't about that. It was about trying to reinforce that Russians have dirt on Trump from a sexual fetish. Most of us cannot relate to that at all and even less so when it's all fake.

 

[Moon]

It's not a streaming show.


CBS, definitely. Netflix and Apple, not so much.


Netflix and Apple are not struggling.

Apple TV has been losing money for years.

The Apple TV+ premium subscription service is losing more than $1 billion per year, according to an anonymously sourced report by The Information published Thursday. The tech giant is spending around $4.5 billion on content annually, down from $5 billion in past years, according to the article. Apple TV+ — which features virtually an all-original lineup — has about 45 million subscribers, per the report.

Apple Is Losing Over $1 Billion per Year on Streaming Service, Has 45 Million Apple TV+ Subscribers (Report)

Apple TV+ is reportedly losing more than $1 billion per year as the company is spending $4.5 billion on content annually.

variety.com

 

[ElChupacabra]

I didn't claim anything about what it's made for send like a very narrow hair to split

That's what we were discussing. Are you now choosing to be ignorant about this too?

Says the guy that didn't know compared was streaming.

Um, what?

No it's something to take up with the movie producers they make crap nobody wants to see. Attendance drops so prices have to go up

Attendance has been dropping for years, but for some types of movies more than others. You really have no clue what you're talking about.

I'm betting a good chunk of the revenue comes from that category

Great, then I'll assume you're basing that on facts or do you normally bet good chunks of money on baseless opinions?

The fact that I was offered a Disney Plus subscription for $2 a month.

Ah, so anecdotal data, cool. I'm sure Mercedes Benz sucks because I didn't buy one.

No they are correct you just don't want it to be.

They are not no matter how many times you repeat it.

So why use it as an example?

I didn't.

Guess your time is worthless.

It is not, but that you say this to my response indicates yours most certainly is.

I won't be gaslit nice try though.

No gaslighting required. Everything I stated is easily referenced, so have at it or post baseless opinions and get called out.